I think Hutchinsons' tesimony about Rudy saying they were going to the Capital on Jan 6th....

[rgbecker]

Two days before, is the most important from Cassidy. It shows it was planned, not spontaneous. It wasn't Trump going off script when he told the crowd to head to the Capital. Meadow's refusal to go in to tell Trump to call off his RWNJs shows intent by the entire West Wing. Concerted, planned attempt to disrupt official government activity, to disrupt the counting of the votes.

The talk of weapons and grabbing the steering wheel is just icing on the cake.

The statement about Rudy's remarks shows planning and intent.

[Hugin]

1. "... disrupt the counting of the votes."

Bingo!

Son of Brooks Brothers. Disrupt the counting by any means necessary including assassin attack. (Of the VP of the United States of America. A move approved and endorsed by the POTUS. why do I always have to point this out?)

Now keep in mind the counting had already been done over three months before and this was the certification. A ceremonial and democracy affirming function.

[flor-de-jasmim]

2. And combine that with G's statement: "She wasn't there when I asked for a pardon."

Can't we just lock them all up?
Please let's not revert to the "too big to fail" argument - we are long past that.

[KS Toronado]

4. "No your Honor, I drove the getaway car when I didn't rob the Bank"

[riversedge]

3. Now, they need to be prosecuted. I am trying to be hopeful.

prosecuted

[Generic Brad]

10. Persecuted would also be nice

Incessant nonstop persecution so pervasive that they can't show their faces in public. If the DOJ and the courts won't mete punishment, there's nothing stopping the rest of us from persistently hounding them with perpetual public shaming and shunning.

[Puppyjive]

5. It was planned

I have several friends on facebook that kept warning that something was going to happen on the 6th. They are Trump supporters. They were so adamant about it, I really thought about turning them in to the authorities. I feared for Joe Biden. I know, I should unfriend them, and I have unfriended many of them. I can't handle their stupidity anymore. They have become unhinged. Called me out on my military service, said I was not a real veteran. I'm a combat vet. It didn't matter to them.

[TeamProg]

15. YES! A friend of mine who knows some severe Trumpers through business told me of the same Jan 6th

plans.

In fact, he and I had a bet:

I'd win 100 bucks if Biden won, but the deal was that we had to wait until AFTER Biden was SWORN IN to collect on our bets.

My friend also voted for Biden but he so clued in on the insurrection plan that he was clearly NOT going to hand over the $100 in early November soon after a winner was announced because he knew, through Trumpers, that it was going to come down to electors and then may even RW state legislators submitting alternative electors.

This entire thing was planned out for a variety of scenarios.

He also thinks 2024 will be even more violent.

I told him "Not if TFG is rotting in prison."

[aggiesal]

6. Of course it was completely planned ...

and the more I watch the video of the female planting the pipe bombs, the more I believe it is Majorie Taylor Green.

[Javaman]

8. You're kidding right?

Or is there an actual video?

[aggiesal]

13. There is actual video of a woman ...

planting the pipe bomb, but you can't see who it is.
FBI put out a picture of the shoes worn, very unique. I'd like to see video of MTG prior to her election to see if she's worn shoes similar to the FBI image.

As Bill Maher says, "I don't know it for a fact, I just know that it's true."

[aggiesal]

17. I figure the bombs were planted with the pin unpulled ...

because they wanted the bombs to coincide with the attack. Someone was supposed to come by later to pull the paperclip off the timer, but they were found before they could be activated.

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/news/press-releases/fbi-washington-field-office-releases-video-and-additional-information-regarding-the-pipe-bomb-investigation-090821

https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/jan-5-pipe-bomb-footage-of-suspect-3-090821.mp4/view

[Septua]

12. There was never any doubt in my mind

The only truly surprising aspect of the Committee's work is not the information revealed rather the simple fact so many Republicans revealed it.

[wryter2000]

7. I think weapons is also hugely important

Not just planned, but planned to be armed with lethal weapons. Totally agree about the wheel and the ketchup.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. The two phone calls Meadows was on during the coup and shut the car door on Hutchinson

for 20 minutes. WTF was he scheming with? Were they directing/ coordinating the violence? Pleading with ___? Meadows needs to be compelled to testify or someone who has insight to come forward?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Totally agree BUT not 100% convinced he wanted to actually go down there

Not knowing for a fact he wanted to be there... It has a tinge of - "well I didn't know it was gonna be violent" which we know he did.

Trump is not the type to mix it up with hoodlums
Trying to find a clip of him actually getting in SUV. Plenty of clips of him driving away and possible glimpses of lunge but non of his demeanor before.

All signs point to him wanting to be at the Capitol but there are too many things that just don't sound right about it.

[pandr32]

18. He said they wouldn't hurt him

He wanted to go in to battle with them and enjoy what he had worked so hard to foment.
As for not wanting to "mix it up with hoodlums" I would agree if they were not working for him.
TFG saw himself, at that moment, the Don--like an autarch, and those "hoodlums" were his loyal soldiers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. They wouldn't hurt him but he didn't specify "at the rally" or

"at the Capitol". Did he?

Still not 100% convinced yet

Did anyone set up any kind of space at all down there? A space to stand and speak to the nutjobs?

We have seen him countless times, and I don't recall him ever once mingling do you? Somehow I just can't picture it. Him down there with just two SeS guys no advance team, no podium to look down on them.

That said, I DO believe he wanted everyone to think he'd go down there.

[TeamProg]

14. I think there is evidence that a J6 confrontation was already planned about A MONTH in advance.

See: Fake electors. And TFG and CO were prepared to cause a disruption of democracy even if Mike Pants DID NOT go along with the fake elector plan while counting electors on Jan 6th.

[PortTack]

16. Exactly! They are using that to try and discredit her. The j/6 cmte knew they would do this

And let Cheney lay a trap at the end of the hearing for them. The two SS agents that say she is lying have a long and friendly history with lying. They’ve listened to their criminal in chief too long. They should lose their jobs!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. And let them lie and then trot out the handful of agents

Who have come forward since then and said Engel told them the same story!

[PortTack]

21. You nailed it!!