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MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:19 PM Jul 2022

So, why is it that a small group of cops can put 60 bullets in the back of

a young, unarmed black man running away from them, but a whole phalanx of cops can't take out a lone white gunman who kills 21 people in a Texas school for a couple of hours?

Questions. I have questions.

Yes I do.

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unblock

(52,165 posts)
1. Wait didn't the Supreme Court just tell us that killing a human was always murder?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jul 2022

So many exceptions to that killing a human is always murder rule. Just no exceptions when the "human" is ruining the life of a woman for 40 weeks.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. One Is Sport, Sir, The Other Poses Danger
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:32 PM
Jul 2022

in this country we recruit police from the duller bully-boys among us, then train them to cowards, and turn them loose with a full suite of cultural and social prejudices and authority to use deadly force at perceived need, which in practice amounts to when it's safely directed at a person of lower caste....

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
9. He Was Armed, And Clearly Was Prepared To Shoot, Ma'am
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jul 2022

So that wasn't safe enough for sport. There was far better sport to be had pretending to be waiting alert and savvy to leap into action at just the right moment. How else to cover over the sick little feeling at the gut there might be no more you if you do anything else?

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
13. I was referencing the observation in the OP which, combined with the reference to caste
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jul 2022

in the post to which I responded, suggested that race/caste was a significant distinction between the two. As it pertains to caste (and targets for police shooting), Latinos are more frequently grouped with blacks than whites.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
14. Regardless Of Personal Origin, Ma'am
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jul 2022

Police enforce the caste system we live with, by both training and acculturation in the trade.

Had there been some latino youth in that classroom waving a stick or brandishing a metal spoon or smartphone, the officers would have burst in and shot him dead in short order....

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
16. Precisely my point.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jul 2022

The Uvalde gunman was Latino. The Uvalde gunman was not treated as white, which the OP suggests as one of the reasons police were reluctant to shoot him.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
5. Because they were different cops in different situations?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:40 PM
Jul 2022

It’s not really that hard to comprehend.

Uvalde cops were poorly trained, inexperienced and had a crisis of weak leadership, horrific communications on scene, and an unhealthy dose of cowardice.

Akron cops were chasing a guy in a ski mask who had been armed and brandished from his car at them.

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
7. I was biting my tongue, but yes.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:54 PM
Jul 2022

In addition the Akron confrontation took place at night, in the open, where innocent bystanders were unlikely to be injured. And the same young man, in the same vehicle, led police in a nearby community on a similar chase the night before.

Not to excuse the police in either scenario - but addressing the "can/cannot" framing of the OP.

Deuxcents

(16,156 posts)
12. He was running away..
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:19 PM
Jul 2022

They already had the vehicle n can find him w/ that info. This is just unbelievable. I keep saying that about a lot of things these days b/c it is just so f’d up

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
15. Why is the Uvalde School PD Chief the highest paid LEO in Uvalde County?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jul 2022

He makes more than the City of Uvalde of Chief of Police and more than the sheriff. And he runs a rag-tag five officer force!

Arredondo earns about $90,750 annually, according to a recent salary study by the Texas Association of School Boards. Uvalde County Sheriff Ruben Nolasco’s salary is set at $77,915, and Uvalde Police Department Chief Daniel Rodriguez’s earns $87,401.60 a year.
https://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/articles/arredondo-calls-it-quits-on-city/
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