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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNRA: The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed
Link to tweet
And yet... It does not feel much like a celebration. I guess to the gun nuts it is... Sheesh.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)and I don't really feel up to celebrating either for a lot or reasons.
ornotna
(11,435 posts)Why is this here, on this day?
lastlib
(27,785 posts)Only reason I can give, but it's good enough, I s'pose.
dchill
(42,660 posts)BootinUp
(51,030 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)RockRaven
(18,928 posts)necessary.
Triloon
(506 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)RockRaven
(18,928 posts)I don't believe that their falsehoods are told out of ignorance.
But your implication that they have no affection for, or loyalty to, historical truths is agreed with entirely by me.
Historic NY
(39,791 posts)but most people live near cities or ports not on the frontier. Those weapons were more for hunting or protection in remote territory. The average colonist didn't have weapons, the communities did in their local armories. Mostly it was the Kings.
Amishman
(5,917 posts)Forming a proper army and France's assistance were essential, but those steps would not have been possible without the militias and armed colonists.
The army was formed out of the militias, and the skirmishes and raids by the militias bought the time needed to organize the army.
Also, the logistics issues and steady losses inflicted by militias and other irregulars weakened the British forces. Without that possibility of victory, France wouldn't have intervened.
So you are right, but that tweet is too.
The real question to me is the point that tweet trying to make even relevant to the modern day?
delisen
(7,287 posts)kenisgod1
(9 posts)The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed WITH MUSKETS....
msongs
(73,227 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)and what Scalia left out in his Heller decision. No individual, unorganizded citizens with single shot muskets defeated the Brits.
They were in well organized militia units. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment.
Walleye
(44,039 posts)iemanja
(57,611 posts)According to a HuffPo article I read.
Cha
(317,695 posts)Killing Children & Parade Goers, and those Shopping for Groceries, etc.. Shouldn't be Allowed a Fucking Automatic Killing Machine..
YOu Stupid Fucks NRA.
Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!
C_U_L8R
(49,112 posts)It's about time rest of the country admits that the NRA is the problem and toxic gun culture must be eradicated. Our freedom to live is more vital than your misguided unregulated 2nd amendment 'rights'
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Could you blow to pieces with a musket?
Asking for myself.
Fuck you, NRA.
thomski64
(870 posts)... to reapply to the British Commomwealth?
Much more sensible attitudes about firearms.
DBoon
(24,822 posts)the french decided supporting American colonists was the best way to get back at their English opponents
Wounded Bear
(63,970 posts)czarjak
(13,512 posts)unblock
(56,071 posts)Perhaps something like:
"I would like to think that the organization, regulation, and disciplining of guns and people with guns had something to do with it."
lastlib
(27,785 posts)...until von Steuben arrived and made them into a frickin' ARMY with actual army weapons and DISCIPLINE.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,740 posts)is because everyone and their brother is armed to the teeth.
We don't want to kiss our child goodbye, put them on the school bus, and never see them alive again.
I don't want to kiss my wife, have her go out in public, and get beat up or shot because she is Asian.
She doesn't want to kiss me, then I go out and get beat up or shot because I'm Jewish.
We don't want to take our lives in our hands if we decide to go to a movie, a restaurant, a school, a supermarket, or just outside.
NRA, you love armed WHITE people. Where is your work for minorities?
In other words, Wayne LaPierre and (as Carlin called them) "those dickless lunatics at the NRA" are hypocritical in this and all their BS.
And, again, as Carlin said: "Doesn't Wayne LaPierre seems a little fruity to you? Hi, I'm Wayne. I'm a gun person. Bang Bang!"
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Just how far their heads are up their asses.
raccoon
(32,277 posts)Emile
(41,369 posts)no one would get shot.
