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Heres my op-ed explaining why the so-called independent state legislature theory SCOTUS has agreed to consider in Moore v Harper (the North Carolina redistricting case) is dangerous and doubly unconstitutional and describing what you can do about it.
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Op-Ed: The Supreme Court is poised to cut the heart out of majority rule
If the court's conservatives adopt the independent state legislature theory, they would be making up law to create an outcome of one-party rule.
5:57 AM · Jul 5, 2022
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-07-05/supreme-court-independent-legislature-theory-north-carolina-case-presidential-electors?_amp=true
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The Supreme Courts extremist justices are aiming their next dagger at the heart of the entire democratic enterprise: voters right to pick leaders of their choice.
On Thursday, the court announced that it will hear Moore vs. Harper, a North Carolina case involving gerrymandered congressional district maps drawn by the states Republican-controlled Legislature. Those maps would probably give Republicans control of 11 of 14 congressional districts in the state.
North Carolinas Supreme Court rejected the maps because they violated the state Constitution in illegally favoring Republicans. While the Moore case involves legislative districts, how we choose presidents is in the courts sights. More on that in a moment.
In Moore, Republican state legislators petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court, advancing a debunked right-wing doctrine innocuously labeled the independent state legislature theory. It maintains that state courts can play no role in overseeing their legislatures in federal election matters.
Hence, according to this baseless notion, state legislatures can do whatever they want in manipulating elections no matter how extreme the results principles of voter equality and fairness be damned, along with the states constitution, its governor and its courts.
Four justices Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh had previously signaled support for this idea. One more justice would provide a majority to give state legislatures absolute control of electoral votes in presidential elections.
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dchill
(38,472 posts)... would they?
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Oh, wait....that was sarcasm, wasn't it? Well played!
jimfields33
(15,769 posts)I can see that happening in the next decade. The court seems to want the country functioning as it was during the signing.
dchill
(38,472 posts)Alito reaching back to a 16th century witch-hunter for legal precedent.
Lovie777
(12,232 posts)Red states will not honor their voter's votes when they don't vote for the RWer's choice. Red states voters will not count, sounds like a dictatorship. Red states - dictatorship, Blue states - democracy. Freedom vs. no freedom.
In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)Magoo48
(4,705 posts)Why should the christofascists stop fucking with us. They hate freedom.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)In real time.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)Every article about this independent state legislature doctrine includes someone saying 'this isn't a democracy, it's a republic".
They have a dangerous point, because a literal reading is pretty un-democratic, and purposely so.
Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof;"
The second clause will probably be ignored: "but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators."
It says nothing about the courts; I expect SCOTUS to glom onto that, big time.
question everything
(47,470 posts)liberalla
(9,238 posts)the other radicals. However, I don't know how much power he actually has to influence them, OR, if he has the will to do so.
He seems uncertain, unsure and soft in his 'chief' justice leadership role. He's a good public front for the court, but not a steering force...
** I have nothing specific to base this on. It's just my 'sense' of him and the court dynamics.
Anyway, I would love to see him fill his Chief Justice position and show he is "still in charge" as you said.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)I think it suits the goals of the people who put him there, so he'll go along with it.
flashman13
(662 posts)Poised to cut out the heart of majority rule??? Bush v. Gore was clearly a minority rule decision. It has been repeated over and over since then.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)If the Subversion Court (formerly and formally, the Supreme Court) of the radical Republicans rules in favor of the radical theory, it would perpetuate control of the Senate, Presidency, Judiciary, and likely a majority of state legislatures. The states which are not now under radical Republican control would be chipped away at until they succumb.
The shit storm is not over yet. We managed to get an umbrella up in 2018, and a roof over our heads in 2020. The flood of shit is now coming at us and we need levees quick.
Mid-term elections are critical. We face an existential threat. Again.
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)Have we hit the end of under good behavior yet?
liberalla
(9,238 posts)into the number one spot on my list of grave concerns (sharing the top spot with Jan. 6 coup accountability).
Bettie
(16,089 posts)the constitution here?
I think we all know how they are going to rule. It is ridiculously predictable.
Cha
(297,154 posts)all of us who cherish our Democracy.💙
Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!