crimos father sponsered his foid card

[moonshinegnomie]

even after he threatened to kill himself and his family

arrest his father as an accessory to murder. lock him up for life preferably in a super max prison


for those unaware a foid card is reqiored to buy a gun in illinois


https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/5/23195378/highland-park-mass-shooting-fourth-july-parade-gun-robert-crimo-rifle

[Historic NY]

1. Thats one weird family....

[Hassler]

2. I am amazed by the parents of these mass shooters. It's like they're

Trying to help them kill people. Just like the parents of the Michigan killer, and Sandy Hook, and Umpqua...

[Bluethroughu]

3. Was the dad part of the plan?

What kind of father would get a foid card for a homicidal, suicidal maniac. The uncle said in a fox Chicago interview that he saw his videos and thought they were great and he was an artist!

Why are they not investigating this. There is no way these people saw his hate symboled shooting videos and thought they were good, I would have called the police if I had seen them on YouTube...why isn't youtube sending this crap to police when it's uploaded.

Why would his GOP dad do this?

[gab13by13]

4. His dad is a Magat,

I live among them, you can't try to understand them using logic.

[Ms. Toad]

9. The uncle did not say he had seen the videos, let alone taht they were great

although he did say he was aware his nephew made YouTube viceos and that his nephew was an artist (no mention of what kind of arrtist).

[Bluethroughu]

10. On the fox 32 interview in his house yesterday.

[Ms. Toad]

12. I watched that interview twice yesterday -

Both before - and after- someone on DU made similar claims. The second watching was to make sure I hadn't missed something.

He was aware that his nephew did rap on YouTube - but had not watched his videos. His comment that he was an artist was close-in-time to a reference to the videos but was not obviously linked to it.

[Bluethroughu]

15. I tried to find the interview I saw, it was a live feed maybe? Because now edited

the interviewer now just says the uncle said he was a rapper, but I saw the uncle say he saw some of his videos and he's a great artist. He also talked about having breakfast with him regularly but had not recently. It's cut and edited. I know what I saw, it was disturbing to see the guy say it like he did. Just saying.

Somebody had to have seen it beside me. If I come across it, I'll post.

I understand why you can't find it because I can't either. I think I hit on a live feed when I watched.

[Ms. Toad]

17. It might even have been your comment in the thread linked to the video

which prompted me to watch it a second time. (I don't pay much attention to user names.)

The comment was along the lines that the uncle knew - but nothing in the video linked to in the op, which I had just watched, supported that assertion. I refrained from commenting there - but your comment here was much more explicit (and not supporte by the video I've watched twice) than the comment I debated about responding to yesterday.

[Bluethroughu]

13. He said he was a rapper ...fox chicago has the footage

They did the interview.

[Ms. Toad]

14. I watched it twice.

The second time in response to people making allegations which are not supported by the interview, to make sure I hadn't missed anything.

Yes, he did say he was a rapper. The artist comment was close in time - but not expressly connected.

He did NOT say he had seen the videos and he did NOT say he thought they were great.

[Bluethroughu]

18. I responded up thread, because I was trying to find the video

Before responding, and I'm not the fastest one finger typist.

Note the interviewer even acknowledges the uncle
Said he hadn't made any threats to family or shown any signs of going to commit shootings. Part of the interview is clipped, and the shooter had a bunch of knives removed from him because he threaten to kill himself and family, but the sherriff's office there were no charges against him because his family didn't want charges. Yet the uncle says no problems?

If one of my family members threatened to kill himself or family Then shoot up a parade I'd remember.

The interview was clipped.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. I know that in the end the shooters are the ones who pull the trigger, but so many are utterly

failed by people who are supposed to care for them, years before the shootings ever happen. It's sad, in a macro sense.

[live love laugh]

6. Illinois' Incel breeding, gun-coddling parents: First Rittenhouse now Crimo

[Demovictory9]

21. The crumbles too

[live love laugh]

22. ??

[Demovictory9]

24. Oxford school shooters parents

[cloudboy07]

25. Don't pin this shit on one state ! all over this country !

PUT THE DAMN PROBLEM ON WHERE IT BELONGS -- NOT REALLY AMERICAN'S -(AKA ) NRA & republican taliban !

[MustLoveBeagles]

7. Many years ago

I processed the applications before it went to online only. Any app that looked "funny" I pulled. It was completly irresponsible of his father to help him get a card. The young man needed a mental health evaluation not a gun.

[PA Democrat]

8. Just THREE MONTHS after the threats, his father sponsored him.

In September 2019, a family member told Highland Park police that the man, Robert E. Crimo III, had threatened to “kill everyone,” Christopher Covelli, a spokesman for the Lake County Major Crime Task Force, said Tuesday. Officers visited Crimo’s home and confiscated 16 knives, a dagger and a sword, but made no arrest, Covelli said, because they lacked probable cause. However, they notified Illinois State Police, he said.

Just months later, in December, Crimo applied for a firearm owner’s identification card, the document required to possess a gun in Illinois. Because Crimo was under 21 at the time, state law required him to have the consent of a parent or guardian before he could own a firearm or ammunition. According to state police, which issues the cards, Crimo’s father sponsored his permit application.

State police had received a “clear and present danger report” on Crimo after the September incident, but because at that time he did not have a pending application or an active permit, known as a FOID card, the agency ruled there was no action it could take. When reviewing Crimo’s application less than six months later, state police officials once again decided there was nothing they could do — this time, the agency said, because Crimo had a sponsor.

“The subject was under 21 and the application was sponsored by the subject’s father,” Illinois State Police said in a statement. “Therefore, at the time of FOID application review in January of 2020, there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the FOID application.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/05/highland-park-parade-shooting-live-updates/

[crickets]

11. 🤦

What is the point of a "clear and present danger report" if it's going to be ignored? Why should daddy dearest be able to sponsor him with such a report on file?

They didn't even try to turn him down. Madness.

[oioioi]

19. It is madness - and it's certainly not "well regulated"...

So this kid was flagged as a psychopath - "clear and present danger". Cops called to the home twice after he threatens to kill himself and others, confiscate multiple weapons (non firearm) from his home. Then a few months latter dipshit Daddy signs on for his little ratbag to obtain a firearms permit.

Based on what we've seen of the kid, he doesn't seem like he's much of an outdoorsman/hunter. What did the father think his nutcase loser kid was going to do with the guns?

If the deplorable dad can't be held criminally liable he needs to be sued down to his socks for this.

[Gaugamela]

16. Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card. Required in Illinois to own a gun.

Apparently, we’re all supposed to know that.

[Demovictory9]

20. When he was in middle school..school offered mental support services..parents chose homeschooling

He has shown mental health issues for years

[Demovictory9]

23. But, authorities pointed out, he responded no when asked if he felt like harming himself or others,

But, authorities pointed out, he responded no when asked if he felt like harming himself or others, and his father said the knives were his and were being stored in his son’s closet for safekeeping. Based on that information, the Highland Park police returned the knives to the father the same day.

[Captain Zero]

26. He was smart enough that he learned the right answers for the police.

He learned the police would go away if he said the things that indicated he wasn't a danger.

So we see these mental health types are SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHICH GUNS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS AND SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW HOW TO GET THEM.

The next step to protect society and communities is to ban these weapons for purchase. period.

[ck4829]

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