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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLiz Cheney: Democrats "pure evil", will turn "maternity wards turned into killing fields"
Just a reminder how disgusting she is. Our cooperation with her on J6 is purely transactional.
Link to tweet
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)There are NO GOOD REPUBLICANS. We all know that.
Funtatlaguy
(11,876 posts)Right now, our country is in crisis mode to prove that Trump and Trumpers have tried and are still trying to destroy democracy.
Liz believes in democracy. She is also very far right of center in her policy viewpoints.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)When j6 is over
.the friendship ends.
She is said to be mulling the idea of presidential run. If she really really wanted to put a complete and total end to trump and his cronies she would run as an independent!
dwayneb
(1,107 posts)In many ways her world view and values are totally different from mine.
But she still believes in Democracy and we should be thankful for that. Without that, this country will regress into another apartheid era South Africa, or worse.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)pnwmom
(110,254 posts)And she only is now because of Trump, but that's fine.
The fact that she's standing with us now, despite all her opposed views, shows how serious she is about Trump.
duckworth969
(1,348 posts)I just need her to get this J6 stuff done, then she get tossed off a cliff for all I care.
Haggard Celine
(17,806 posts)when they're making profits off of them.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Deuxcents
(26,756 posts)But is that when she gave that speech or is it when it was posted?
And if I may add..shes certainly a woman of her convictions and gets her message across. Shes on the same page as us for J6 n if shes ever in a position to be on our side again, I think shell put every effort out there b/c thats what she is showing me, at least, who she is, we know where she stands, how she thinks n now, know what to expect n how to work with this person. The J6 committee has done a damn good job. No infighting..looks very disciplined n dedicated to get to the truth. Gotta always keep our eyes on the prize.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)She is referring to the Governor of Virginia supporting abortion rights. She was referring to Democratic Governor Ralph Northam. Northam was succeeded by anti-abortion Republican Glenn Youngkin in November of 2021, so it can't be 2022 in the video.
Mad_Machine76
(24,948 posts)He couldnt run again.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)Not 2022.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)when the Democrat Ralph North Northam was in office.
I'm disappointed with Winslow that he'd do a splice and dice job like this.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)obamanut2012
(29,340 posts)Karma13612
(4,979 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)C Moon
(13,626 posts)I knew something like this was going to happen.
PatrickforB
(15,420 posts)No doubt.
Ocelot II
(130,398 posts)Cheney was in the GOP leadership, so of course she made highly partisan statements, and we know full well that she holds views that are anathema to most progressives. However, we are currently facing an existential threat to democracy, so for the duration of the emergency, the enemy of my enemy has to be my friend. And for the duration of that emergency, it is also not productive to regard the enemy of my enemy as also my enemy if they dont agree with us on all other issues.
I see absolutely no value in undercutting Cheney or Kinzinger while as members of the J6 Committee they are effectively exposing Trump's crimes.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Also, with the backlash on reversal, she may have a different more politically palatable stance on it.
ItsjustMe
(11,971 posts)rpannier
(24,913 posts)A friend is someone who is with you 99% of the time and is a friend through good and bad
And ally is convenient and issue-to-issue
Stalin was an ally, not a friend
eppur_se_muova
(41,874 posts)usonian
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Hold on. Phone call.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... is what exactly?
I doubt that anyone here doesn't know that Liz Cheney is a Republican, and that many of her past positions are abhorrent - and in all probability, her future positions will be equally so.
But in the here and now, she is serving an invaluable service in her role on the J-6 Committee, and admirably so.
The fact that she perceives Democrats as being "evil", and yet joined them to investigate Trump's crimes and that of his co-conspirators, is a testament to her willingness to put country above party - even at the expense of her own political career.
Whatever she did before now, and whatever she will do in future, is irrelevant to the issues-at-hand.
Let's leave the Liz-bashing to Republicans, and stop undermining her service to a righteous cause.
Hugin
(37,836 posts)Ocelot II
(130,398 posts)and Don Winslow seems to be missing the point altogether, which is that Liz Cheney is not only useful, but essential to what the J6 Committee is trying to accomplish. There is nothing to be gained by undercutting her or Kinzinger, notwithstanding their views on other, unrelated issues - however much we might find those views unacceptable. Those two have made common cause with the Democrats in an essential matter, effectively torpedoing their political careers (Kinzinger isn't running again, and Cheney is being primaried by a Trumper and will probably lose). Whatever their views on abortion or whatever might not even matter if they've been sidelined by their own party.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)Cheney has no chance to win her seat back in Wyoming, let alone get the Republican nomination for President. I don't know why Winlow feels compelled to dredge up this shit from 2019.
She is referring to the Governor of Virginia supporting abortion rights. She was referring to Democratic Governor Ralph Northam. Northam was succeeded by anti-abortion Republican Glenn Youngkin in November of 2021, so it can't be 2022 in the video.
She doesn't call us the "Democrat Party" anymore. She calls us by our name, the Democratic Party. That video was from 2019. I think her change of tone may be because she finally saw REAL evil on 1/6/2021, and has put aside the anti-abortion, anti-Democratic Party bullshit, at least for now. I think she saw how dangerous it could be to repeat the lies of the stupid GOP base.
Bashing her at this point serves no purpose.
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)Maybe she is using the J6 Committee as her friend to defeat her enemies. She wants to be president and the allies of her father will see to it. She wants to destroy TFG but, cannot do it alone. She needs many others to be ridiculed, indicted, humiliated or just outright ruined to have a shot at continuing her father's legacy. Where does everyone think she got her political acumen from? She's a republican and she wants the power her father could never have. In other words, she is a snake and a chameleon. She sure as hell isn't doing any of this work within the J6 Committee for love of country and our best interests.
Her father, his loyal cronies and their newfound blood are as sinister as they come. They're republicans (the Party Of Death). They'll destroy everyone and everything in their way. That's all they do. And I think they're plan is to destroy TFG, DeathSentence and any other Death Party candidate that dares to become an obstacle.
The enemy of my enemy is a snake and a chameleon and is playing both sides for her ultimate goal.
Maybe I'm wrong but, I never put anything past them.
JI7
(93,558 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)JI7
(93,558 posts)Who is going to support Cheney ?
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)is a bit distorted and disturbing. They always think they have a way to game the system. The republicans got their way in 2000 and 2016 so who knows what they'll try next.
If you're implying that I think she can be president, you're dead wrong. But, she's a republican and lusts for that power every day. They cheat and they'll fuck over anyone, R or D, even the entire country, to get what they want.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... how this brilliant strategy is supposed to work.
Liz becomes president by turning against her own party and destroying Trump and his allies - but she can't do it alone, and the allies of her father will see to it?
Where are these alleged allies of her father now? Why are they not defending her, championing her position, aiding in taking down Trump so as to clear the way for Liz's triumphant election as POTUS?
I think your "logic" might be a tad flawed.
I'm just not as smart as you.
They do their dirty work in the dark. They don't brag about what they want and they only want to neuter her obstacles. These people are devious. I've read enough of your posts over the years to know you understand this. It's sort of 'old money' vs. 'new money.'
My take is that Liz Cheney is the daughter of Dick(head) Cheney. She is not our friend, nor will she ever be. And anyone that thinks she is, is also using logic that's a tad flawed. But, she is up to something and it isn't good.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... as to "the something she's up to" ... and how being part of the J-6 Committee is part of her evil plan to become POTUS.
I am truly fascinated by the logic behind this scheme.
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)It's to make her likeable with the older independents and conservative D's. They'd fuck over anyone to attain what they want. The only good R are those that have renounced their (former) party's direction in recent years and left the party altogether. I do not trust her. She's playing some angle.
I'm 62 and I have learned a few things in this life. I actually love reading your posts but, please don't be condescending just because I don't agree with you automatically. I'm allowed to have my opinion and to be skeptical. I don't have all the answers but, *newsflash!* neither do you. And both of us, along with everyone else, will see what she's up to in a little less than 2 years.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... with agreeing with me, automatically or otherwise.
Yes, you are allowed your opinion - but unless you have something to support that opinion, it is irrelevant.
Saying "we'll see what she's up to in a little less than 2 years" has nothing to do with what she's doing right now.
I'm still waiting for you to explain how Liz Cheney is on her way to the WH as a result of her being on the J-6 Committee.
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)It's like making as many people look really bad (anyone involved with TFG) so that in the end she'll look good and more noble. Republicans are known for playing the long game.
I'm not privy to republican insiders nor would I want to be. If I had actual information to support my opinion it would no longer be just an opinion, it would be fact.
I never said she's on her way to the WH. She wants to go there. Don't forget who her father is. He's as cold and calculating as they come and I'm of the belief that he passed on some of that political acumen to her. They're republicans. They aren't motivated by kindness or integrity. How many posts have you made and that I have read describing their callous, abhorrent behavior? I'm suspicious, ok. Dick Cheney always had something us his sleeve and I just think she does, also.
If it turns out that I'm wrong I'll be the first one to admit it.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... her own on J6C cause she loves her country first but that's where sound thinking stops.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)The only thing that matters right now is her role on the J-6 Committee.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)history of opposing us on the other issues.
obamanut2012
(29,340 posts)LoisB
(12,964 posts)her leadership role. Perhaps she wants to take them all down, perhaps she just hates TFG, perhaps she's planning her run for President or maybe she believes in the Constitution and thinks what happened that day was beyond the pale. I don't know what her motives are but she is doing a really good job on the J6 Committee.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.
Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.
The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.
It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.
It is a matter of control.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)What a selling point
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)She was becoming America's stern but loving mother. She could have become a great successor to Oprah. And then this...
Maternal celebrity turned into the Ayatollah. Crap.
comradebillyboy
(10,953 posts)We have a temporary alliance that is mutually beneficial. Let's see if she's still in congress after the mid terms.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)babies?
vanlassie
(6,245 posts)Mariana
(15,623 posts)Anti-choice Republican voters love to hear stuff like this. They don't care whether it's true.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)I'm more disappointed in him than her. We knew she was opposed to us on all the issues except Trump.
FreepFryer
(7,086 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,654 posts)few Republican politicians on which Тяцмp and the GRU couldn't find any real dirt. I believe a lot of them are somehow compromised, and the ones who arent suck up to Тяцмp for the base vote. A few have some decency, and are pretty clean - but they are still republicans.
Gaugamela
(3,491 posts)up for a run for the President. Pathetic.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)is her work on the committee now.
I'm disappointed in Winslow that he would post a deceptive tweet.
elleng
(141,926 posts)and thinking people recognize that.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Thtwudbeme
(7,737 posts)churches, concerts, 4th of July parades.....
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)That video was from 2019. I think her change of tone may be because she finally saw REAL evil on 1/6/2021, and has put aside the anti-abortion, anti-Democratic Party bullshit, at least for now. I think she saw how dangerous it could be to repeat the lies of the stupid GOP base.
Bashing her at this point serves no purpose.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)Everything else is from 2019.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)She is referring to the Governor of Virginia supporting abortion rights. She was referring to Democratic Governor Ralph Northam. Northam was succeeded by anti-abortion Republican Glenn Youngkin in November of 2021, so it can't be 2022 in the video. It is a misleading posting by Winslow. Why is he doing that?
Bev54
(13,426 posts)Just wants Trump out of the way and is doing the job assigned by her Daddy and buddies. It must be so difficult for the democrats on the committee to work with her after this type of nonsense. Well I now hope the dems in Wyoming do not vote for her in the primary.
SunSeeker
(58,243 posts)If she loses her seat, there is NO Republican who will replace her. And she is doing a great job. She is certainly not repeating any lies from her position on the J6 Committee.
That video was from 2019, not 2022, as suggested by Winslows misleading post initially flashing a current Fox shot of her before the older video begins. Not cool.
She doesn't call us the "Democrat Party" anymore like in that video. She calls us by our name, the Democratic Party. I think her change of tone may be because she finally saw REAL evil on 1/6/2021, and has put aside the anti-abortion, anti-Democratic Party bullshit, at least for now. I think she saw how dangerous it could be to repeat the lies of the stupid GOP base.
Bashing her at this point serves no purpose. She needs help or she is on track to lose the GOP primary in Wyoming. The Dem candidate has no chance. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the Wyoming House seat. Why would we want Liz Chaney replaced by a pro big lie Republican?
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pnwmom
(110,254 posts)Except for Winslow's tweet, these quotes of hers all appear to be from 2019.
Don Winslow on Twitter: "Democrats meet Liz Cheney: The ...https://mobile.twitter.com donwinslow status
7 hours ago believes that Democrats are "killing babies AFTER they're born" and are the "face of pure evil" and that Democrats will create "maternity wards ...
Rep. Liz Cheney Says Infanticide, Late-Term Abortion 'Pure ...https://www.dailysignal.com 2019/02/07 rep-liz-che...
Feb 7, 2019 "The fact that we're even debating it is so appalling. It's pure evil," Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., says of infanticide and late-term abortion.
Liz Cheney Calls Late-Term Abortion Bills 'Pure Evil,' Says ...https://dailycaller.com 2019/02/07 liz-cheney-late-te...
Feb 7, 2019 Liz Cheney of Wyoming called late term abortion "pure evil," on "Fox & Friends" ... those bills that would allow babies to be killed.
Cheney: It's Our Moral Obligation to do Everything We Can to ...https://cheney.house.gov 2019/02/06 cheney-its-our...
Feb 6, 2019 Establishes criminal penalties for by punishing those who harm babies born alive, let them die, or attempt to harvest body parts. Subjects ...
Missing: pure | Must include: pure
... issue that we protect babies. -Rep. Liz Cheney slams late-term abortion bills as pure evil ... Feb 7, 2019 ... Sad kids at college campuses .
Facebook · Fox & Friends · Feb 7, 2019
Liz Cheney: Protecting Babies Should be 'Absolute' Issue ...https://www.newsmax.com Newsfront
Bills that would allow babies to be killed after birth are pure evil and the nation's ... By Sandy Fitzgerald | Thursday, 07 February 2019 09:11 AM.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)But that's really far afield and nothing like what Republicans are doing to fuck up actual babies who don't have parents with money.
All's fair on the election trail, I suppose.
czarjak
(13,626 posts)Let's Go Your Daddy
live love laugh
(16,369 posts)Such exaggerated BS.
I especially hate those who think what they do is what others should do as well.
She is the mother of 5 good for her. Thats not true for more than 50% of women let alone mothers.
Skittles
(171,556 posts)I am tired of all the fawning on DU, she is a repuke through and through, she's fighting for old school repukes, not America.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)She spent 4 years voting with Trump before she suddenly got a conscience when he tried to overthrow the republic. She is not our friend and its fucked up how much she is lionized on DU.
raccoon
(32,380 posts)pnwmom
(110,254 posts)she opposed us on almost all the issues. That gives her even more credibility as a member of the committee, not less.
Maru Kitteh
(31,730 posts)SMDH.
We already understood who Cheney is, but thanks Dad.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Its happened to me, and Im as grammar Nazi as they come.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,780 posts)She's still a Cheney and good at projection and radical right-wing evil like her dad. She'll throw America under the bus any day of week just for a lowered corporate tax rate.
Never forget or forgive Tricky Dick II and Halliburton.
KY.....
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Otherwise, shes a wing nut.
Bettie
(19,655 posts)on everything else, we need to remember, she's not our friend, or really anyone's friend. She's a Cheney, which means she'll stab anyone in the back for the sake of her ambition.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)I don't give a damn what she said about abortion 3 years ago. It's not news to anyone here that she's hard right.
Bettie
(19,655 posts)to ever support anything other than this that is even vaguely good for humans or the country.
Who knew Cheneys had a line they won't cross?
DiamondShark
(1,167 posts)k thx bye
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)to stand up for our democracy.
What she said in 2019 about ANY other topic doesn't matter now.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,840 posts)Also, it's an old clip.