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Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:01 AM Jul 2022

I am not going to spend the few remaining years of my life living as a 2nd class citizen

Not doing it! Yes I am past reproductive age, but anything that puts any woman of any age in a position of not having full control of her own life.. leaves all women living as 2nd class citizens...

And just a heads up for my fellow oldsters.. what next with the right... when they can no longer keep women in their place by controlling their reproductive lives, because they age out of that stage.. Do they then start claiming all oldsters are crones and witches' and burning the rest of us at the stake.. or tying bricks to our feet and throwing us in the water. I put nothing past any of them anymore..

And for those on the court who feel deprived because they cannot eat dinner in peace.. What the heck do you think women are going to do.. sit quietly on the sidelines and be shuffled back 200 years..

Of course we are going to demonstrate and march and shout and VOTE!..

Rant off!

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I am not going to spend the few remaining years of my life living as a 2nd class citizen (Original Post) Peacetrain Jul 2022 OP
Yeah, Justice I Like Beer, you don't like your dinner disturbed? Novara Jul 2022 #1
Righteous rant. Thank you. LoisB Jul 2022 #2
Right there with you Peacetrain! Karma13612 Jul 2022 #3
Brava! I'm with you! Ocelot II Jul 2022 #4
And run for office too Glaisne Jul 2022 #5
Don't forget destroying Social Security and Glaisne Jul 2022 #6
You are right. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #38
I put a sign on my door barbtries Jul 2022 #7
You are an example of why I have been saying this and I am a male, I get it. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #8
Why I now refer to SCOTUS as the "Extreme Court," OMGWTF Jul 2022 #9
The right wing "justices" are nothing more than Bettie Jul 2022 #12
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #39
Ex-supreme Court sanatanadharma Jul 2022 #14
They thought it was perfectly fine to sacrifice older people tulipsandroses Jul 2022 #10
I've had conversations w right wing crazy, he used words like... 2 Meow Momma Jul 2022 #11
I am almost 66 and I go into rants Tree Lady Jul 2022 #13
GAWD DAMN RIGHT - Goes for us guys too packman Jul 2022 #15
Yes thats what upsets my husband Tree Lady Jul 2022 #21
We have to. There is no ignoring or pretend everything is "fine" option. Vocal is the key IMHO. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #40
I know I just hope more young Tree Lady Jul 2022 #42
Yes. It is their future and I also hope. The system is so "rigged" against public dissent though. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #43
Yes I want my VCR back so I can tape Tree Lady Jul 2022 #45
I hope the pandemic options for work continue. Much need re-evaluation. Glad your Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #46
Honestly - they do not know cilla4progress Jul 2022 #16
That's what happens when you live in the DC bubble, all perspective is lost. We are starting to hear Pepsidog Jul 2022 #19
Maybe Beer Boy should be strapped with a beer keg and see how he likes it. Pepsidog Jul 2022 #17
No; keg implanted in his abdomen. Higherarky Jul 2022 #30
The problem and the solution. In Red, White and Blue. usonian Jul 2022 #18
When anyone's rights are under attack, everybody's rights are under attack... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #20
Absolutely! Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #47
Just-us Mockalito and Amy Coathanger would love the witches suggestion. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #22
Haven't these assholes ever pissed off a woman before? rubbersole Jul 2022 #23
+1000 llmart Jul 2022 #24
Their wives & daughters know their own place, I am sure... Hekate Jul 2022 #33
Standing next to you, my sister. I AM an old CRONE, and may they all rot in their hell.The desire niyad Jul 2022 #25
I think they've overplayed their hand. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #29
I wish I could protest those goons on SCOTUS when they are Ilsa Jul 2022 #26
Your one line made me think of a bumper sticker KS Toronado Jul 2022 #27
It's about the Constitution . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2022 #28
Uh, oh! The anti-abortion religious zealots are writing Letters to the Editor ARPad95 Jul 2022 #31
Do it! Martin68 Jul 2022 #32
Amen, Sister, amen. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #34
...K&R... spanone Jul 2022 #35
Is there a statute of limitations for being a woman? Marthe48 Jul 2022 #36
Which justices have daughters... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #37
WE RISE UP AND FLY YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #41
I've never understood for my entire life how some people think it's okay to dictate GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #44

Novara

(6,115 posts)
1. Yeah, Justice I Like Beer, you don't like your dinner disturbed?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jul 2022

Try being forced to carry a rapist's spawn. At 10 years old.

I don't like my LIFE disturbed.

Maybe those of us past reproductive age are even more angry because we were able to make these decisions. In hindsight we know how these decisions shaped our lives.

I grew up watching women learn how to claim their lives. I watched them claim their independence. And when I came of age I benefited from their work. I'll be damned if I don't pass that on to the next generation of women.

The goddamned state doesn't own my body. It doesn't own yours, either.

Karma13612

(4,981 posts)
3. Right there with you Peacetrain!
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

I went off on a good rant in the post about the CO Sec of State saying they will not cooperate with Red State demands of Extradition for women getting abortions out of state. I was glad to see the pushback but it needs to be more forceful and targeted. She was saying that “Women have rights over their own body’. I say that it is well beyond that.

You cannot dictate what a person does in another state. That is utter BS!!

All elected Democrats must come out much more forcefully and make it clear that a lot of the threats from Red State GOP’s are illegal and unconstitutional.

A lot of voters fear that there doesn’t seem enuf effort to protect us from bad legislation. It is causing levels of anxiety that no amount of meditation can alleviate.


barbtries

(31,307 posts)
7. I put a sign on my door
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jul 2022

it says, "It ain't over."
Codify Roe vote Blue in November

i'll be 67 next month.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
8. You are an example of why I have been saying this and I am a male, I get it.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jul 2022

Overturning Roe was a big, big, mistake. If you take away a right women have had for most or all of their lives. A right that saved their lives in many cases. A right that is a matter of life or death. You are going to pay a big price. Their foolish decision has set off a movement that is going to grow into an out of control wildfire.

The Republicans, with their out of control extremism, are going to throw gasoline on the wildfire with all the crazy laws they are passing. Many men, young people, gay people, will join the women because the Republican extremists have made it clear they are coming for many of our rights, not just a woman's right to breathe.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
12. The right wing "justices" are nothing more than
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jul 2022

political operatives. They certainly don't work for the citizens of the nation.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
10. They thought it was perfectly fine to sacrifice older people
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jul 2022

during the pandemic. No one anywhere is safe from their cruelty. I had an exasperating conversation with a relative this morning. This person is unaware of the danger we are all in. I was explaining, even if you are against abortion, it still affects you. Imagine as a husband, something goes wrong with your very much wanted pregnancy. You take her to the ER and you are told, that the fetus probably won’t survive, and your wife’s life may be in danger but we can’t do anything now. Go home and come back 3 days from now when she’s septic.

Or your wife is raped and you are forced to raise the rapist’s child.

Or your wife not getting chemo or radiation for cancer because she is not allowed to terminate the pregnancy.

There will be untold damage to families on a whole. The maternal mortality rate will skyrocket. Families torn apart. Often this is not a first pregnancy. Children will lose their mothers.

Yesterday I read about a woman who got devastating news about a fetal anomaly. The doctor could not even talk to her about what her options are. This changes the dynamic of the doctor/patient relationship.

2 Meow Momma

(6,876 posts)
11. I've had conversations w right wing crazy, he used words like...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jul 2022

demons, satanic, and the like.

Your imagination going in the Salem Witch Trials direction isn’t hyperbole.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
13. I am almost 66 and I go into rants
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jul 2022

Every few days about it. Driving husband crazy but he knows to keep quiet after a few dumb remarks.

I am concerned for my grandkids and their kids. My granddaughter at 23 votes, my grandson does not.

I find all women everywhere are talking about it, even in my non political clubs. At a discussion group yesterday we talked about it and I was pleased the men were supportive also.

My heart breaks thinking of all the women that could die or be forced to give birth because of this and how it will affect their lives.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
15. GAWD DAMN RIGHT - Goes for us guys too
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

Not taking an BS from anyone about basic human rights and respect for them - MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE- which upsets my wife from time to time when I get too vocal.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
21. Yes thats what upsets my husband
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jul 2022

Don't get your blood pressure up is the usual remark.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
40. We have to. There is no ignoring or pretend everything is "fine" option. Vocal is the key IMHO.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jul 2022

Don't know what else we can do. Confront and don't let lies slide.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
43. Yes. It is their future and I also hope. The system is so "rigged" against public dissent though.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jul 2022

The banks, utilities, insurance co's, universities, own us. And now it's groceries, cable companies and fuel. I want my rabbit ear antennae back when I paid, $0.00.

Feels like indentured servitude already, cuz you don't dare miss a day. Paying bills has gotten incredibly hard for even two incomes.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
45. Yes I want my VCR back so I can tape
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:55 PM
Jul 2022

Stuff for free. We have antenna only for tv and stream but I can't record like I could for cheap 40 yrs ago!

Talk about not getting better!

I'd say only good thing lately is letting people work at home, its been great for my daughter who is a CPA. She lives in Texas, works for a company from LA so her day starts at 10, she loves to do yoga or walk before work and still have free time with no commute or people bugging you in the office.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
46. I hope the pandemic options for work continue. Much need re-evaluation. Glad your
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 06:19 PM
Jul 2022

daughter is benefitting!

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
19. That's what happens when you live in the DC bubble, all perspective is lost. We are starting to hear
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

first horror stories of a post-Roe country. As tragedies mount, so will public outrage.

Higherarky

(637 posts)
30. No; keg implanted in his abdomen.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jul 2022

And then, in 9 months, he can figure out how it's going to pass out of his body

usonian

(25,299 posts)
18. The problem and the solution. In Red, White and Blue.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jul 2022
Problem:

Solution:


Let's do it!
Images courtesy of DKos and unwomenusa.org.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
22. Just-us Mockalito and Amy Coathanger would love the witches suggestion.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jul 2022

Just-Us Beer Bong Weenie Waver and Uncle Clarence and Robber roberts will gleefully go along. The Subversive Court doesn't want to take a long time to send us backwards a long time, as they know their time of subversion is limited.

The radical Republican extremist party has been trying to eliminate old folks for quite a while -- and raid that Social Security stockpile, of course. Moscow Mitch wants peasants of all ages to stop lounging around on his money and get back to the mines and sweatshops. A fetus is a tool to rile the worker drones and stormtroopers. Good worker drones, stormtroopers, breeders, and billionaires -- that's all the modern radical Republican extremist party needs.

Anyone not brainwashed by now by the Fascist Oligarch eXtremists propaganda network is either the enemy or expendable, to GOP.

llmart

(17,614 posts)
24. +1000
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jul 2022

That's a great line! And so true.

Remember the old adage: God hath no fury like a woman scorned. Scorned can mean whatever you want it to mean. The SCOTUS has scorned us for the last time.

niyad

(132,429 posts)
25. Standing next to you, my sister. I AM an old CRONE, and may they all rot in their hell.The desire
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jul 2022

to burn witches again has been circulating in the reichwing crazy world for decades now, and the chants are getting louder.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
29. I think they've overplayed their hand.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jul 2022

Despite all the recent setbacks, I still have faith in my fellow citizens. I think the Republicans won’t know what happened come November.

Ilsa

(64,362 posts)
26. I wish I could protest those goons on SCOTUS when they are
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jul 2022

out in public. Instead of fetus pictures, put photos of dead m-from-illegal-abortion women on posters.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
27. Your one line made me think of a bumper sticker
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jul 2022

MAKE WOMEN 2nd CLASS CITIZENS
........VOTE REQUBLICON

Hate to have the R word on my bumper, but it does paint them in a negative way if they realize it's about
Roe vs Wade.

AverageOldGuy

(3,828 posts)
28. It's about the Constitution . . .
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jul 2022

The Constitution GUARANTEES the right of people to assemble and petition the government . . . that is, the right to assemble and protest.

The Constitution DOES NOT GUARANTEE the right of anyone to dine in public undisturbed.

If a SCOTUS "Justice" wants to go about among The People, then, said "Justice" needs to suck it up and stop being a snowflake.

As for Justice Beer Bong . . . he's a joke. A bad joke, not very smart, child of privilege, never worked a day in his life, born with a silver spoon up his ass. Screw him.

ARPad95

(1,672 posts)
31. Uh, oh! The anti-abortion religious zealots are writing Letters to the Editor
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jul 2022

In response to this Letter to the Editor by Sally Roesch Wagner, PhD, Executive Director of The Matilda Joslyn Gage Foundation (https://sallyroeschwagner.com/):

https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2022/07/what-matilda-gage-would-say-about-supreme-court-abortion-ruling-guest-opinion-by-gage-foundation-director.html


two sets of octogenarian couples plus an offspring and a 6th person of unknown relationship wrote this (the group is 50% males by the way):

https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2022/07/abortion-opponents-respond-to-matilda-joslyn-gages-views-on-childbearing-your-letters.html

[snip]

Though the writer expounds on Gage’s philosophy, Wagner obviously is an acolyte of her and is posthumously spreading Gage’s ideology. Morally, abortion has been an abomination immemorial. God’s Law supersedes man’s law. Contrary to popular belief, it is our belief the zygote is a full human person with a soul created in the image of God. Devotees of abortion place her/himself on the level of God, determining who is to die and when, which in itself is a blasphemy, a sacrilegious belief. What a statement! attributed to Gage, i.e., pregnancy is “to go down into the valley of the shadow of death.” What a perversion and distortion of carrying a baby in the womb. It is a selfish statement.


The rest of the letter is a must read to see how they cover all of their out-of-touch-with-reality bases and are blatantly anti-separation of church and state. They definitely want to drag women and girls back to the dark ages (RC religion version).



I'm also well beyond my childbearing years, but I did "go down into the valley of the shadow of death" when I was childbearing. Fortunately, I survived.

https://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/documents/1869/USAID_Report_to_Congress_Female_Morbidity_and_Mortality_Web.pdf

The leading causes of death for women of reproductive age (15–49 years) are infectious diseases, including HIV/AIDS (more than 114,000), tuberculosis (41,000); and maternal conditions (86,000), including hemorrhage, sepsis, complications of abortion, miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy, hypertensive disorders, and obstructed labor.


All of the maternal conditions listed above will increase with these forced birth abortion bans.

Marthe48

(23,174 posts)
36. Is there a statute of limitations for being a woman?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 04:10 PM
Jul 2022

Had a hysterecomy years ago, but still a woman. And I don't accept the 6 unelected despots ruling on anything. F**K the right

ultralite001

(2,551 posts)
37. Which justices have daughters...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jul 2022

and granddaughters???

Those women need to be exposed to the truth...

That is all...

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
44. I've never understood for my entire life how some people think it's okay to dictate
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jul 2022

to others what they can or can’t do with their own bodies. Nothing could be more personal. This is tyranny, and all people who love freedom must stand against it. When one of us is denied our basic freedoms we are all denied our freedom. It’s unfortunate that there are Americans that have been so brainwashed by propaganda in the media and on social internet that they don’t recognize what they are doing to themselves when they cast a vote for the enablers of this shit.

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