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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am not going to spend the few remaining years of my life living as a 2nd class citizen
Not doing it! Yes I am past reproductive age, but anything that puts any woman of any age in a position of not having full control of her own life.. leaves all women living as 2nd class citizens...
And just a heads up for my fellow oldsters.. what next with the right... when they can no longer keep women in their place by controlling their reproductive lives, because they age out of that stage.. Do they then start claiming all oldsters are crones and witches' and burning the rest of us at the stake.. or tying bricks to our feet and throwing us in the water. I put nothing past any of them anymore..
And for those on the court who feel deprived because they cannot eat dinner in peace.. What the heck do you think women are going to do.. sit quietly on the sidelines and be shuffled back 200 years..
Of course we are going to demonstrate and march and shout and VOTE!..
Rant off!
Novara
(6,115 posts)Try being forced to carry a rapist's spawn. At 10 years old.
I don't like my LIFE disturbed.
Maybe those of us past reproductive age are even more angry because we were able to make these decisions. In hindsight we know how these decisions shaped our lives.
I grew up watching women learn how to claim their lives. I watched them claim their independence. And when I came of age I benefited from their work. I'll be damned if I don't pass that on to the next generation of women.
The goddamned state doesn't own my body. It doesn't own yours, either.
LoisB
(13,025 posts)Karma13612
(4,981 posts)I went off on a good rant in the post about the CO Sec of State saying they will not cooperate with Red State demands of Extradition for women getting abortions out of state. I was glad to see the pushback but it needs to be more forceful and targeted. She was saying that Women have rights over their own body. I say that it is well beyond that.
You cannot dictate what a person does in another state. That is utter BS!!
All elected Democrats must come out much more forcefully and make it clear that a lot of the threats from Red State GOPs are illegal and unconstitutional.
A lot of voters fear that there doesnt seem enuf effort to protect us from bad legislation. It is causing levels of anxiety that no amount of meditation can alleviate.
Ocelot II
(130,516 posts)Cranky old lady wondering why she has to protest this shit again.
Glaisne
(645 posts)give people something to vote for.
Glaisne
(645 posts)Medicare are up there on their list.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)barbtries
(31,307 posts)it says, "It ain't over."
Codify Roe vote Blue in November
i'll be 67 next month.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Overturning Roe was a big, big, mistake. If you take away a right women have had for most or all of their lives. A right that saved their lives in many cases. A right that is a matter of life or death. You are going to pay a big price. Their foolish decision has set off a movement that is going to grow into an out of control wildfire.
The Republicans, with their out of control extremism, are going to throw gasoline on the wildfire with all the crazy laws they are passing. Many men, young people, gay people, will join the women because the Republican extremists have made it clear they are coming for many of our rights, not just a woman's right to breathe.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Bettie
(19,702 posts)political operatives. They certainly don't work for the citizens of the nation.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)sanatanadharma
(4,089 posts)Hypocrite extreme judicial activists
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)during the pandemic. No one anywhere is safe from their cruelty. I had an exasperating conversation with a relative this morning. This person is unaware of the danger we are all in. I was explaining, even if you are against abortion, it still affects you. Imagine as a husband, something goes wrong with your very much wanted pregnancy. You take her to the ER and you are told, that the fetus probably wont survive, and your wifes life may be in danger but we cant do anything now. Go home and come back 3 days from now when shes septic.
Or your wife is raped and you are forced to raise the rapists child.
Or your wife not getting chemo or radiation for cancer because she is not allowed to terminate the pregnancy.
There will be untold damage to families on a whole. The maternal mortality rate will skyrocket. Families torn apart. Often this is not a first pregnancy. Children will lose their mothers.
Yesterday I read about a woman who got devastating news about a fetal anomaly. The doctor could not even talk to her about what her options are. This changes the dynamic of the doctor/patient relationship.
2 Meow Momma
(6,876 posts)demons, satanic, and the like.
Your imagination going in the Salem Witch Trials direction isnt hyperbole.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)Every few days about it. Driving husband crazy but he knows to keep quiet after a few dumb remarks.
I am concerned for my grandkids and their kids. My granddaughter at 23 votes, my grandson does not.
I find all women everywhere are talking about it, even in my non political clubs. At a discussion group yesterday we talked about it and I was pleased the men were supportive also.
My heart breaks thinking of all the women that could die or be forced to give birth because of this and how it will affect their lives.
packman
(16,296 posts)Not taking an BS from anyone about basic human rights and respect for them - MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE- which upsets my wife from time to time when I get too vocal.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)Don't get your blood pressure up is the usual remark.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Don't know what else we can do. Confront and don't let lies slide.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)Come out to fight like we did.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)The banks, utilities, insurance co's, universities, own us. And now it's groceries, cable companies and fuel. I want my rabbit ear antennae back when I paid, $0.00.
Feels like indentured servitude already, cuz you don't dare miss a day. Paying bills has gotten incredibly hard for even two incomes.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)Stuff for free. We have antenna only for tv and stream but I can't record like I could for cheap 40 yrs ago!
Talk about not getting better!
I'd say only good thing lately is letting people work at home, its been great for my daughter who is a CPA. She lives in Texas, works for a company from LA so her day starts at 10, she loves to do yoga or walk before work and still have free time with no commute or people bugging you in the office.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)daughter is benefitting!
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)what is coming for them....
Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)first horror stories of a post-Roe country. As tragedies mount, so will public outrage.
Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)Higherarky
(637 posts)And then, in 9 months, he can figure out how it's going to pass out of his body
usonian
(25,299 posts)
Solution:

Let's do it!
Images courtesy of DKos and unwomenusa.org.
Wounded Bear
(64,323 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Just-Us Beer Bong Weenie Waver and Uncle Clarence and Robber roberts will gleefully go along. The Subversive Court doesn't want to take a long time to send us backwards a long time, as they know their time of subversion is limited.
The radical Republican extremist party has been trying to eliminate old folks for quite a while -- and raid that Social Security stockpile, of course. Moscow Mitch wants peasants of all ages to stop lounging around on his money and get back to the mines and sweatshops. A fetus is a tool to rile the worker drones and stormtroopers. Good worker drones, stormtroopers, breeders, and billionaires -- that's all the modern radical Republican extremist party needs.
Anyone not brainwashed by now by the Fascist Oligarch eXtremists propaganda network is either the enemy or expendable, to GOP.
rubbersole
(11,222 posts)It doesn't end well for the pisser.
That's a great line! And so true.
Remember the old adage: God hath no fury like a woman scorned. Scorned can mean whatever you want it to mean. The SCOTUS has scorned us for the last time.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)niyad
(132,429 posts)to burn witches again has been circulating in the reichwing crazy world for decades now, and the chants are getting louder.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Despite all the recent setbacks, I still have faith in my fellow citizens. I think the Republicans wont know what happened come November.
Ilsa
(64,362 posts)out in public. Instead of fetus pictures, put photos of dead m-from-illegal-abortion women on posters.
KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)MAKE WOMEN 2nd CLASS CITIZENS
........VOTE REQUBLICON
Hate to have the R word on my bumper, but it does paint them in a negative way if they realize it's about
Roe vs Wade.
AverageOldGuy
(3,828 posts)The Constitution GUARANTEES the right of people to assemble and petition the government . . . that is, the right to assemble and protest.
The Constitution DOES NOT GUARANTEE the right of anyone to dine in public undisturbed.
If a SCOTUS "Justice" wants to go about among The People, then, said "Justice" needs to suck it up and stop being a snowflake.
As for Justice Beer Bong . . . he's a joke. A bad joke, not very smart, child of privilege, never worked a day in his life, born with a silver spoon up his ass. Screw him.
ARPad95
(1,672 posts)In response to this Letter to the Editor by Sally Roesch Wagner, PhD, Executive Director of The Matilda Joslyn Gage Foundation (https://sallyroeschwagner.com/):
https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2022/07/what-matilda-gage-would-say-about-supreme-court-abortion-ruling-guest-opinion-by-gage-foundation-director.html
two sets of octogenarian couples plus an offspring and a 6th person of unknown relationship wrote this (the group is 50% males by the way):
https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2022/07/abortion-opponents-respond-to-matilda-joslyn-gages-views-on-childbearing-your-letters.html
[snip]
Though the writer expounds on Gages philosophy, Wagner obviously is an acolyte of her and is posthumously spreading Gages ideology. Morally, abortion has been an abomination immemorial. Gods Law supersedes mans law. Contrary to popular belief, it is our belief the zygote is a full human person with a soul created in the image of God. Devotees of abortion place her/himself on the level of God, determining who is to die and when, which in itself is a blasphemy, a sacrilegious belief. What a statement! attributed to Gage, i.e., pregnancy is to go down into the valley of the shadow of death. What a perversion and distortion of carrying a baby in the womb. It is a selfish statement.
The rest of the letter is a must read to see how they cover all of their out-of-touch-with-reality bases and are blatantly anti-separation of church and state. They definitely want to drag women and girls back to the dark ages (RC religion version).
I'm also well beyond my childbearing years, but I did "go down into the valley of the shadow of death" when I was childbearing. Fortunately, I survived.
https://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/documents/1869/USAID_Report_to_Congress_Female_Morbidity_and_Mortality_Web.pdf
The leading causes of death for women of reproductive age (1549 years) are infectious diseases, including HIV/AIDS (more than 114,000), tuberculosis (41,000); and maternal conditions (86,000), including hemorrhage, sepsis, complications of abortion, miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy, hypertensive disorders, and obstructed labor.
All of the maternal conditions listed above will increase with these forced birth abortion bans.
Martin68
(27,741 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,157 posts)spanone
(141,602 posts)Marthe48
(23,174 posts)Had a hysterecomy years ago, but still a woman. And I don't accept the 6 unelected despots ruling on anything. F**K the right
ultralite001
(2,551 posts)and granddaughters???
Those women need to be exposed to the truth...
That is all...
YoshidaYui
(45,407 posts)WE rise up and FLY!!
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)to others what they can or cant do with their own bodies. Nothing could be more personal. This is tyranny, and all people who love freedom must stand against it. When one of us is denied our basic freedoms we are all denied our freedom. Its unfortunate that there are Americans that have been so brainwashed by propaganda in the media and on social internet that they dont recognize what they are doing to themselves when they cast a vote for the enablers of this shit.