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tulipsandroses

(8,252 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 01:40 PM Jul 2022

I wonder if "pro life" women understand that they have doomed themselves to have less health care

Abortion training is needed for certification for the specialty of OB/GYN. No one will want to complete a residency in a state that will result in not being able to get their certification.
About half of new physicians end up working in the state they completed their residency.
They just made sure that they decreased the amount of OB GYNS that will want to work in those areas.

I expect malpractice insurance will skyrocket to account for lawsuits that may arise. I’m reading stories of women being told to go home and return to the ER days later when they are in sepsis to get the “ mother’s life in danger exception”. This is not going to end well. Someone will die from Sepis before they are able to make it back to the ER.
I’m sure many physicians will leave instead of dealing with rising malpractice insurance, threats of arrest, threats of lawsuits by vigilantes and lawsuits from the mother’s family.

Not just OB GYNS. It’s going to have a ripple effect on many areas of medicine. Oncology, Rheumatology, we are already hearing about patients not being able to get Methotrexate.
We were already in a crisis in health care with not having enough providers. You just ensured that less providers will want to come to your state, continue to stay in your state , and probably decrease the amount of med students that choose OB/GYN as a specialty.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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I wonder if "pro life" women understand that they have doomed themselves to have less health care (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jul 2022 OP
Part of the creed of multigraincracker Jul 2022 #1
No...They do not see abortion as healthcare Lulu Latech Jul 2022 #2
EXCELLENT post, tulips Leghorn21 Jul 2022 #3
Good points. Probably not. Too stupid to care about others. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #4
"only twelve to fourteen per cent of ob-gyns provide abortion care" irisblue Jul 2022 #5
Some of them truly believe that the mom should die giving birth to a child. Claustrum Jul 2022 #6
Up until the early years of the 20th Century... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2022 #7
$ duckworth969 Jul 2022 #8

Lulu Latech

(29,106 posts)
2. No...They do not see abortion as healthcare
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jul 2022

Ironically, I would guess that many of these folks were screaming and yelling about the ACA being government controlled healthcare. I think we need to more actively reframe this issue as healthcare rather than "choice" which is perceived as baby murder in too many peoples minds. The horror stories that will be coming out about lack of access for treatment are unfortunately going to be just heart breaking. It also just drives me crazy that these folks in office aren't being asked their credentials for determining medical treatment for women.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
3. EXCELLENT post, tulips
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jul 2022

Sending it to all my friends and acquaintances

Thank you!!

also grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

irisblue

(37,514 posts)
5. "only twelve to fourteen per cent of ob-gyns provide abortion care"
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jul 2022

Source-https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/ethical-health-care-after-roe

I read this article a few days ago & have been musing on it since. I suspect that Dr Perkins King knows what she is talking about.


snip-... "Louise Perkins King, a surgeon and bioethicist at Harvard, and the vice-chair of the ethics committee at the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (acog). Her work focusses on the ethical obligations and quandaries faced by medical professionals"

..."In the United States, only twelve to fourteen per cent of ob-gyns provide abortion care, and that’s not O.K. We need to have a workforce of obstetrics and gynecology professionals who are not only trained but willing to conscientiously provide this care."


Right wing white fundamentalist women, who keep voting for their mostly male peers have cut off their and their daughters noses.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
6. Some of them truly believe that the mom should die giving birth to a child.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jul 2022

I think it's fine if they want to make that decision for themselves. The problem is that they are making that decision for every women in the country.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,898 posts)
7. Up until the early years of the 20th Century...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jul 2022

The leading killer of women was Childbirth.

Shame should we go back to that time once again because of the madness that is the Right Wing.

duckworth969

(1,349 posts)
8. $
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:46 PM
Jul 2022

I’m guessing healthcare isn’t much of a worry for pro lifers. Probably come from $, or have it, or have a hubby with bux who works for a place that has top o’the line healthcare packages. Or they’re the wives and/or daughters of SCROTUS and Congress members.

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