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AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:21 AM Jul 2022

Just home from my shift as a bartender

At an American Legion post in Anchorage.
Today tRump had a rally here with Palin and spoke around 4pm. My bar was desolate for about three hours…till around 7.

And then the tRumpers arrived. Holy fuck. What a SHITSHOW. All dressed in red white and blue. Cannot believe how many veterans eat this shit up.

They partied. I took their money and when they tried to get me into a conversation about the rally. I told them he wasn’t a person I liked or admired. And asked if they wanted to play pull tabs or needed another drink. Well. That pretty much shut them up and we all got along.

It is still mostly an unwritten rule to not talk politics in a bar. Mostly.

Now I know who more of the tRumpers are and will act accordingly.

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Just home from my shift as a bartender (Original Post) AKwannabe Jul 2022 OP
Nicely (Bar)Tended wyn borkins Jul 2022 #1
Not exactly... AKwannabe Jul 2022 #3
Not Too Much Information - Perhaps Not Enough wyn borkins Jul 2022 #6
Quick YT link but is also an ad... AKwannabe Jul 2022 #8
Understood - And Thank You So Very Much (n/t) wyn borkins Jul 2022 #30
Did they tip well? Thtwudbeme Jul 2022 #2
Yes. nt AKwannabe Jul 2022 #4
I'm shocked. I hope you made a bunch of money off of them. gldstwmn Jul 2022 #41
Sounds like a nightmare! You have my sympathies Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #5
My first inclination would be to throw the drinks in the trDUMPIES faces. magicarpet Jul 2022 #20
Hooo boy! Hopefully what ever else you need to do you'll get a good sleep... electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #7
Lol! AKwannabe Jul 2022 #9
Ah.... wow.... electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #48
Wow I can't imagine going to work and having to listen to their bullshit. doc03 Jul 2022 #10
You sound like you're in the Resistance there bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #11
No political talk in a bar?? I never got that memo! nt Shermann Jul 2022 #12
It's mostly an unwritten rule here 8n KCMO that you leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #13
Being from KC I can attest to this. chowder66 Jul 2022 #16
You never know by looking so we are just really careful leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #29
Exactly. chowder66 Jul 2022 #32
Yep AKwannabe Jul 2022 #33
I imagine the conversations are a bit uglier than they were during my years there. chowder66 Jul 2022 #36
My life every day here in Ohio dwayneb Jul 2022 #14
I work in manufacturing and my white rural coworkers are locked Boomerproud Jul 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #43
I question my membership Puppyjive Jul 2022 #15
I BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2022 #24
Mine is mixed AKwannabe Jul 2022 #34
The remarkable disconnect- wearing the red, white and blue while hating America and Americans RAB910 Jul 2022 #17
Red, white and blue are the colors of the Russian flag, too DFW Jul 2022 #19
+1000 MustLoveBeagles Jul 2022 #44
"Now I know who more of the tRumpers are and will act accordingly." Novara Jul 2022 #18
My thoughts are yours! Lol AKwannabe Jul 2022 #35
We don't do alcohol at our Legion - our guys shoot off their mouths enough with coffee and 70sEraVet Jul 2022 #21
The American Legion itself is Conservative leaning and has been more about conservative JI7 Jul 2022 #22
Im rather new to the Legion. I'll watch for evidence of that. 70sEraVet Jul 2022 #25
My service Puppyjive Jul 2022 #26
My service Puppyjive Jul 2022 #27
Thank for your service (sincerely)! And you are right. We learned many valuable lessons. 70sEraVet Jul 2022 #28
Nice statement. Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #37
Maybe remind them many Americans consider wearing our flag an abuse of that flag. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2022 #23
I would love to shove this in the faces of the "patriots," Boomerproud Jul 2022 #38
AKwannabe upholding the civilized society democracy depends on from behind the bar. Hortensis Jul 2022 #31
It's funny... Blue Owl Jul 2022 #40
you omitted the most important part Skittles Jul 2022 #42
The OP said they did in Reply 4 MustLoveBeagles Jul 2022 #45
must have them on Ignore Skittles Jul 2022 #46
You really earned your paycheck MustLoveBeagles Jul 2022 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author onethatcares Jul 2022 #49

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
1. Nicely (Bar)Tended
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:36 AM
Jul 2022

Does "pull tabs" mean you would not serve them another round as they may have had too much to drink?

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
3. Not exactly...
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:41 AM
Jul 2022

AK’s only form of gambling (or so some think).
Here they call em rippies. WA state has em too. Pull Tabs.

I’d say it’s a lot like a slot machine. Open the paper up and see if there is a prize. Can buy in different denominations. Was that tmi???

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
6. Not Too Much Information - Perhaps Not Enough
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:56 AM
Jul 2022

Guess I don't understand how 'open the paper' works as I never found any prizes inside the newspapers I purchased in my very dim and distant past.

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
8. Quick YT link but is also an ad...
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 06:10 AM
Jul 2022

Basically. It’s gambling. AK only allows non-profits to buy or “run” the games. Some places here sign up non profits to be able to have a business as they get some of the action so to speak. Works WAY differently in WA state tho. Probably so in every state that allows them.

https://m.


Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
5. Sounds like a nightmare! You have my sympathies
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:47 AM
Jul 2022

I can't even imagine dealing with TFG supporters when they're sober - kudos to you for handling it.

electric_blue68

(14,854 posts)
7. Hooo boy! Hopefully what ever else you need to do you'll get a good sleep...
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 06:07 AM
Jul 2022

Btw bc I find this stuff fascinatng - what time is
your sunset these days?

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
9. Lol!
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 06:14 AM
Jul 2022

The TV reports a time. But, really. It doesn’t get dark. I guess I see the sun going down around 11:30 but may be a little later. Now that we are past solstice we are marching toward the other end of the spectrum. Round 6 hours of light per day.

I just moved here in May. Haven’t seen a deep night sky yet.

electric_blue68

(14,854 posts)
48. Ah.... wow....
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:58 PM
Jul 2022

That's wild not having seen a "normal" for most people deep night sky yet because of when you moved.

A IRL friend visited Alaska in ? early May several years back. So got the sun setting around 10:30p - 11p ish. She said it was wild

I also have a long time on line friend in Finland who's far enough up (1/3rd) to get the midnight sun AND the deepest dark later in wintertime; bc Helsinki, Finland is too far south for it.

What got me originally decades ago was a cousin here in the US at the time who was sent to ?Sweden for then more advanced (and successful) treatment for the cancer he had.

At that point my uncle told my parents the Sun was rising at 10AM, and setting at 2PM! I was like "Whaaaa?!!!". We were both ?either tweens, or young teens.
Totally blew my mind, esp disking the darkness of even a NYC winter.

doc03

(35,324 posts)
10. Wow I can't imagine going to work and having to listen to their bullshit.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 06:53 AM
Jul 2022

I would have to quit. I quit going to McDonalds for coffee because of a couple people talking Q anon craziness.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
13. It's mostly an unwritten rule here 8n KCMO that you
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:16 AM
Jul 2022

don't talk religion or politics. That keeps the peace.

chowder66

(9,066 posts)
16. Being from KC I can attest to this.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:36 AM
Jul 2022

We did it in our home but were careful. Once it got heated someone would change the subject abruptly.
You could hear the record scratch so to speak.
I do remember being told to avoid discussing money, politics and religion.




dwayneb

(767 posts)
14. My life every day here in Ohio
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:26 AM
Jul 2022

I live in a rural area which is 99% white and Trump loyal.

They know I am a Democrat because party registration is public here. We never discuss politics. A few with Trump shrines in their yards but most are fine as neighbors. It just sickening to know that these people are actively voting to destroy our democracy. Most of them don't have a clue where this is heading.

Boomerproud

(7,949 posts)
39. I work in manufacturing and my white rural coworkers are locked
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jul 2022

in their certainty. I do not see a change anytime soon.

Response to dwayneb (Reply #14)

Puppyjive

(501 posts)
15. I question my membership
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:28 AM
Jul 2022

Last edited Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:20 AM - Edit history (1)

The last time I volunteered to give out Poppies for my legion post, I sat with a woman who started going off on 'libtards'. I kindly told her that I was a libtard. She apologized to me but slowly began to justify her views the whole time we were there. I can't stand the Legion anymore nor the stupid members that continue to support Trump. I pay for 3 memberships every year and certainly don't need to continue to support their crap. Trump lied, cheated and tried to steal my vote. As a veteran, I think this is about as low as you can get. These Legion members are not Patriots. They are idiots and I am embarrassed by them.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
24. I
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:49 AM
Jul 2022

I dumped my Legion membership a few years ago because of their Trump support and how they are blatantly racist and bigoted. Oh how they hate Democrats!

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
34. Mine is mixed
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jul 2022

We have new and some older people with heads on their shoulders. Sadly. Most are older and voracious voters madddddd on tRump KoolAid.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
19. Red, white and blue are the colors of the Russian flag, too
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:17 AM
Jul 2022

As for anyone forced to put up with these people as part of gheir jobs, I find that courage and bravery above and beyond the call.

Novara

(5,838 posts)
18. "Now I know who more of the tRumpers are and will act accordingly."
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:14 AM
Jul 2022

It's exactly the same as removing the hoods of the KKK in my mind.

70sEraVet

(3,483 posts)
21. We don't do alcohol at our Legion - our guys shoot off their mouths enough with coffee and
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:42 AM
Jul 2022

donuts.
I honestly don't understand why Orange Asshole has so many veterans eating out of his hand. I think our military may have done us a disservice -- taught us to despise the humble, and look up to the braggart.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
22. The American Legion itself is Conservative leaning and has been more about conservative
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:46 AM
Jul 2022

politics in general than about veteran advocacy .

70sEraVet

(3,483 posts)
25. Im rather new to the Legion. I'll watch for evidence of that.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:01 AM
Jul 2022

I like the idea of being of service to fellow vets in need, and of sending a departed vet off with a proper ceremony from his comrads-in-arms.

Puppyjive

(501 posts)
26. My service
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jul 2022

The service taught me how important diversity is. Serving next to all races was by far, my greatest experience I took home with me. It made me realize our existence has been successful due to the collective effort of a world of human beings, not just those in my backyard.

Puppyjive

(501 posts)
27. My service
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jul 2022

The service taught me how important diversity is. Serving next to all races was by far, my greatest experience I took home with me. It made me realize our existence has been successful due to the collective effort of a world of human beings, not just those in my backyard.

70sEraVet

(3,483 posts)
28. Thank for your service (sincerely)! And you are right. We learned many valuable lessons.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:45 AM
Jul 2022

I guess the trick is to figure out which lessons to nurture, and which to unlearn.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
23. Maybe remind them many Americans consider wearing our flag an abuse of that flag.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:49 AM
Jul 2022
United States Flag Code
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

Summary of the advisory code
The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing, unless it is the ensign responding to a salute from a ship of a foreign nation. This is sometimes misreported as a tradition that comes from the 1908 Summer Olympics in London, where countries were asked to dip their flag to King Edward VII; American team flag bearer Ralph Rose did not follow this protocol, and teammate Martin Sheridan is often, though apocryphally, quoted as proclaiming that "this flag dips before no earthly king."
When a flag is so tattered that it no longer fits to serve as a symbol of the United States, it should be replaced in a dignified manner, preferably by burning. The Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Legion, Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA, TrailLife USA, the U.S. Military and other organizations regularly conduct dignified flag retirement ceremonies.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.[8]
The flag should never touch anything physically beneath it.
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds but always allowed to fall free.
The flag should always be permitted to fall freely. (An exception was made during the Apollo moon landings when the flag hung from a vertical pole designed with an extensible horizontal bar, allowing full display even in the absence of an atmosphere.)
The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally.
The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
The flag should never be upside down, except to signal distress or great danger.
When displayed vertically against a wall, the union should be to the observer’s left.


Thanks for sharing, AKwannabe. You did good........

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. AKwannabe upholding the civilized society democracy depends on from behind the bar.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jul 2022

Can't imagine how you could have dealt with them better. Thanks for sharing the view from there.



Blue Owl

(50,336 posts)
40. It's funny...
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:48 PM
Jul 2022

If any one of those folks were forced to spend an afternoon, alone, one-on-one with Donald tRump, then maybe, MAYBE that would be enough time for them to realize that as individuals, Diarrhea Donny despises each and every one of them with every fiber of his being, and views them as "losers" and "suckers" and has no interest in them or their personal lives and wants nothing to do with them. He HATES them.

Contrast that with Joe Biden. I bet Joe would make an honest effort to connect with these Americans at a personal, human level, listen to what they had to say, and treat them with dignity and respect.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,587 posts)
45. The OP said they did in Reply 4
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:46 PM
Jul 2022

I'm shocked by that. Most MAGAt's strike me as being cheapskates with few exceptions.

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