Has anyone figured out who is behind the Biden bashing?

[Baitball Blogger]

Low polls numbers are hard to interpret when some of it may be the outcome of understandable factors. For example, progressives may have wanted to see Biden more proactive on the Roe v. Wade issue. Others may believe that we are in a war with Republicans and Biden's over-cautious approach is alarming.

Lots of reasons for the unhappiness, but in the end, many of those who are giving him bad reviews today will simply not vote for the Republican option.

So, I don't mind if Biden is getting criticized, but I just wish that the pollsters and media would take that extra mile and let us know what we are really dealing with. How else does one use the poll numbers in a useful way?

[Walleye]

1. Joe Biden is a good, kind and decent man. A lot of folks just can't stand that

There’s a large element that thinks you have to be a son of a bitch to get ahead in America. And if you get ahead and you’re not a son of a bitch you must be bashed

[LonePirate]

14. That's not the reason at all coming from his detractors on the left.

Sure, the right might hate him for those qualities; but the people on the left who are not pleased with him are largely younger Democrats and progressives. These young voters do not think he has taken sufficient action on two of their largest priorities: climate change and student loans. They are also dissatisfied with housing costs/availability, gun violence and now abortion/human rights. Inflation does not seem to be a concern to them as much as a perceived lack of action on issues important to them.

Some of the dissatisfaction on the left can be traced to a lack of understanding that until Congress acts, the President's hands are largely tied. The Manchin/Sinema Senate blockade of many Dem priorities seems to have gone unnoticed for some reason as these voters expect action since there is a nominal Dem majority in the Senate even though it is actually a powerless minority of Dems in the Senate.

[Walleye]

15. I guess they think at this point that criticizing Biden will accomplish these things?

[LonePirate]

17. People are not happy. Do you expect them to bite their tongues and stew quietly about things?

[Walleye]

18. No. I expect them to show a little support for the president we worked so hard to get elected

Bitching and pissing and moaning does not get things done. Especially if they feel like criticizing and bashing is such a righteous thing to do. Anybody can tell you what you should’ve done after the results are in. It doesn’t take a genius

[LonePirate]

20. Well, to them, not bitching and not moaning got them nowhere so they are trying a new tactic.

They are putting him on notice to act. Yes, there's not much he can do without Congress but they don't believe he shares their concerns. I don't think they see him as an obstacle so much as someone indifferent to their priorities. They will definitely vote for a different Dem candidate in the Dem 2024 primaries if Biden runs again and he has not channeled or given voice to their anger and concerns.

[Walleye]

21. Do they know we actually have to win General elections to get things done?

[LonePirate]

23. Again, it's also about Biden not speaking up for their concerns even if he can't do anything.

They voted for him and now they feel he is ignoring them. They want him to be their biggest cheerleader and he is not doing that in their eyes. They may not be aware of the Machin/Sinema antics; but they certainly see and hear what Biden is or is not saying and doing regarding their issues.

[duckworth969]

25. "... lack of understanding that until Congress acts, the President's hands are largely tied"

Exactly right

[JI7]

26. They aren't voting . If they were really concerned they would vote

but that's not happening.

[dchill]

2. I don't know, but gas prices seem to be coming down.

They don't like their biggest talking point being dulled. Why can't they talk about the new jobs report?

[claudette]

10. I agree about that

I didn't even know the job report was that good until I saw a graph here on DU. Did not see it on the internet at the websites I check every day. Why isn't it being shouted more loudly?

[dchill]

13. If everybody finds out what a great job ...

...Biden is doing, then how could they clamor for him to be replaced? How could they worry about the economy if it's known that it's actually booming? How is THAT going to create a horse race against a treasonous, criminal thug?

Anyway, that's why they're not shouting about the great jobs report. It doesn't fit their storyline at all.

[getagrip_already]

3. interesting post on dkos....

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/9/2109190/-Here-s-the-Real-Elemental-Reason-for-Biden-s-Low-Poll-Numbers

I don't know how true it is, but it is something to consider. I know that when you campaign on being a uniter, it can be hard to pivot to attack mode, but it really is needed. May not help his poll numbers, but it is something that is needed.

[bdamomma]

4. The media

is bashing President Biden by showing his 33% disapproval ratings, screw them, even MSNBC like what the hell?

Have they mentioned the increasing job growth numbers for June??? Republican bastards are not even stopping price gouging they do not give a crap. It's all about their DONORS.

[Cheezoholic]

5. I see the bashing as a positive

In my view it means the repukes and the power elite are scared and are desperate. They know how important Nov is and if they lose theyre toast. Me thinks internal high dollar polling, which is much better than the public polls we see, are painting a much more dire picture for repukes than what is being reported.

[Hortensis]

6. Same as for Hillary, Obama, Gore, etc.

DEMOCRATS are always THE problem to overcome for Republicans, hostile foreign nations, and both RW and LW extremist organizations. With the GOP destroyed, we are IT.

There's a whole nest of related anti-Democratic organizations on the left that are constantly attacking. Won't name any since some Democrats innocently ally with them, but we're seeing a good number of accusations that Biden isn't doing his job, isn't fighting to protect women etc, coming out of that sector right now. They aren't hard to find. They claim to support Democratic goals, but everything the Republicans do is weaponized to shift fear and anger against the Democrats for not stopping them.

Why? The repeal of Roe threatens to increase support for Democrats; and with a truly existential midterm election coming up, to defeat Democrats these LW hostiles have to keep that from happening.

Again why? Because that's what they do. Don't make the mistake of imagining the leaders are the well meaning idealists they claim to be. They're power seeking extremists who are helping destroy progressive government in order to eventually destroy the Democratic Party. AGAIN, why?! Might as well wonder why Steve Bannon shares the same goal or why MAGAs happily cut their own throats to "own the libs."

[Kingofalldems]

7. It's republicans of course.

[mobeau69]

8. Faux.

[CentralMass]

9. Monied interests.

[TheRealNorth]

11. I wonder....

How much time the media has been spent about the polling vs the time spent on the jobs data.

[karynnj]

12. My completely not provable reason --- there is a lot of trouble, chaos and unhappiness right now

On so many levels, things are unsettled and have been since Biden took office.

From the start, he was not provided with the normal transition where his team would have gotten all the details on everything then facing the country. In addition, he came in soon after a very scary insurrection with a huge part of not just the country, but the Congress itself not agreeing he was legitimate - even with a solid win.

Not to mention, the country was still dealing with the worst of covid, people sick, people dying, school done remotely, the economy very slow. His approach, that of a grown up, has been that he and his team put their heads down and started to work on the problems - in an order that made sense.

- People got vaccinated
- the economy revived and a record number of jobs were created -- and, due to scarcity-- actually paid more

But, as this happened, as anyone should have expected a complicated economy did not revive smoothly. In addition, for the last several months inflation - where costs were compared to the year before in a covid tamped economy look terrible. (as someone who was in my 30s in the late 1970s/early 1980s, I can tell you the mortgage rate offered at one point was 17% No this is NOT like that.)

So, there were supply chain problems. His team worked on them, but as they have become less a problem ... they are less a story. Baby formula was scarce due to a company's quality issues. He actually found a solution buying more overseas and using the military to import it. Again, now improved ... so no stories.

Biden got the first gun bill in decades -- biggest comment "it is not enough". Biden has done much of what he could do with Roe vs Wade --- but HE DOES NOT HAVE THE VOTES to legislate it now. He needs at least 2 more Senators.

Not to mention, the only real poll result that will predict what happens will be head to head races between 2 people - and Biden is winning the ones I see.

Russia invades Ukraine. Biden acts to lead NATO and manages to hold many countries to do things against their own interest on sanctions. Support has been much greater for Ukraaine than expected. Main US story --- the price of gas is too high.

[Model35mech]

16. Well, someone who doesn't like Biden. What's new? Why does it matter?

Biden's and the democrats opponents are going to be relentless

Worrying about the shit in the sewer is pointless.

There is ALWAYS shit in the sewer.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

19. Populists don't like calm liberal rationality, nor do they see kindness and decency as a plus.

Such characteristics undercut "rage" and political extremism, which is the populists stock-in-trade.

They see Biden as a threat.

I love him for it.

[Walleye]

22. 👆

[liberalmediaaddict]

24. They can bash him all they want

As long as they don't vote Republican in November. Turning Congress over to the GQP isn't the answer to their frustration.

Especially since House democrats have worked tirelessly the last 4 years to help improve the lives of all Americans.

Basically if we keep the House and gain 2 Senate seats a lot of the legislation progressives want will actually be passed.

[IngridsLittleAngel]

27. The mainstream media

Joe Biden came along and ruined all their fun. He canceled the greatest TV show ever - The Apprentice: Washington. Where everyday, Comrade Covfefe would sit there with a Big Mac in one hand and his phone in the other, scowling his anus-lips and deciding "YOU'RE FIRED! AND YOU'RE FIRED! AND YOU'RE FIRED! AND 6 MILLION OF YOU ARE FIRED!" Where the media could cover what stupid thing that The Ultimate Businessman would say, and what stupid thing The Ultimate Alpha Male would tweet.

"BREAKING NEWS! PRESIDENT DRUMPF SAID 'COVFEFE' IN A TWEET!!!!!"

Well, now, the fun is gone. The greatest reality show since The Kartrashians was canceled by Joe Biden. Now they have a soft-spoken, compassionate, intelligence and sane man in the White House. He's not turning the presidency into a reality show. He's not tweeting stupid shit 24/7. He's trying to do what he can to lead us and... be a president. And "worse" of all to them, doing it with compassion and intelligence, not being a loud-mouthed bullying blowhard.

They want The Drumpf Show back. "Drumpf will be bad for America, but great for CBS!" And because they don't have the "excitement" (more like excrement) of a Drumpf presidency, well, it's Bash Biden 24/7/365. After all, who fucking cares if America dies so long as the ratings are awesome?!

So, this is why Biden is being slammed in the press, every minute. If he was the greatest president ever and made everything perfect in his first 6 days? They'd still hate him for canceling The Apprentice: Washington.