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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 7, thread TWO****
(THREAD 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216915776)
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Ohio Joe
(21,761 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)Ocelot II
(115,836 posts)Lars39
(26,116 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)Fight! Fight! Fight! Big bag of rats!
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,043 posts)Marthe48
(17,018 posts)I missed a little, but catching up. The comments help a lot
ancianita
(36,133 posts)go with what Eastman and Clarke later plan.
Cipollone "doesn't want to get into what the president said"?? doesn't sound like cooperation to me.
Ohio Joe
(21,761 posts)You have two sides, each telling their side... And they match... The crazy checks out... Fucking insane
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)"Was Sydney Powell seeking an appointment, or was she just saying she had been appointed to something?"
Cippolone: (paraphrase) Both.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)Showing how all the "grassroots" efforts for the insurrection were actually carefully coordinated with tfg.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)livetohike
(22,163 posts)supporters to D.C. on Jan 6.
NJCher
(35,730 posts)"Can you believe these people? They are so effing nuts!"
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)bringing in the nut jobs now
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)that "Trump was a 76 year old man and not an impressionable child"?
Sure doesn't sound like it to me!
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 12, 2022, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)
how to make decisions and needs team batshit -- so now they be like "not his fault!"
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)come to D.C.Jan.6 with weapons and be ready to kill Police Officers and members of Congress.
Since he didn't say those exact words, how can he be held responsible for any of this, right?
That's exactly what they'll say. He can't be held responsible for other people's actions.
These people are completely nucking futs, and they follow the Big Orange Pig like hungry little piglets. 🙄
ancianita
(36,133 posts)"They" can't say he can't be held responsible. It's on record that he said those exact words. Twice.
He also said, "you've got to fight like hell." So he didn't care if Capitol police, congresspeople or Pence were killed. So the deaths of five are on his bloody hands.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)I guess thats not true but hes an agitator pretending to be press.
NewHendoLib
(60,019 posts)How is Alex Jones NOT locked up with the key tossed???
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)Social media has unleashed a whole new crop violent extremists outside of regular broadcast radio.
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)part for me. I don't listen to these things or 8Chan, and I am so overwhelmed. So close to tears.
NJCher
(35,730 posts)mass slaughter
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)VP killed. WTF.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)that's all.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Cant watch. Trying to follow here lol
JonAndKatePlusABird
(314 posts)Hes definitely referencing the Game of Thrones scene, one of the most violent scenes Ive ever seen on TV.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)They are going for the jugular in this hearing. Good!
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)Wonder why his identity is being shielded.
ETA: he's being identified as a former twitter employee. Saying it felt as if they were mobilizing intentionally for violence and to take up arms through twitter. It was clear that the leader of their cause was tfg asking them to attack D.C.
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)IIRC.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)Bucky
(54,065 posts)TBH, I suspect the ex-employee is female, based on the timber of their voice
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)(his voice was purposely distorted to provide anonymity)
NewHendoLib
(60,019 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)catbyte
(34,447 posts)crickets
(25,983 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Oath Keepers and Proud Boys communicating directly with the White House on their plan to invade the US Capitol and stop the proceedings going on there.
This has been hinted at, but I am waiting for this to be made clear, that Trump and his band of crazies directed the atttack.
Novara
(5,851 posts)The suggestions and the nutjobs running with it isn't going to be enough to convict.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)And so the RW media and militias took it and ran.
And Cipollone, after The Tweet, just seems to act as if there was nothing he could say or do.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)did that person build the noose?
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)"Cops don't have standing if they are lying on the ground in a pool of their own blood."
Tell me again about blue lives mattering.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)when theyre snuffing out the black lives that dont.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)livetohike
(22,163 posts)bdamomma
(63,922 posts)there was a House Rep who noticed there was a tour of people taking pictures of stairways and tunnels, I can't recall who.
RockRaven
(14,998 posts)or architecture expert (knew prior to 2020-2021, I mean).
There is/was a website that documents them. It is/was run by a history/architect buff as a hobby. A tiny, noncommercial, low traffic website. The guy noticed a huge upswing in traffic prior to 1/6, and got suspicious, he tried to alert the FBI or Capitol Police...
Now, I merely know that tunnels exist, I couldn't tell anyone anything about them. But anyone who has ever worked in the Capitol -- which is probably tens of thousands of living people -- has personal experience with those tunnels sufficient to be useful to these criminals.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Hearing about it is one thing. Seeing the actual plotting and intent is chilling.
RocRizzo55
(980 posts)livetohike
(22,163 posts)up at your local Proud Boys.
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)No offense to the Jan 6 Committee at all, but the connection between Trump and the mob isn't witnessed by Cipollone, from what I've heard and seen so far.
So how is Cipollone the glue. Guess we'll find out at the final hearing.
Novara
(5,851 posts)All this shit about suggesting and running with it isn't enough for convictions.
There better be more.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)let the criming unfold. He did nothing to stop Trump's mobilizing. To me, doing nothing amounts to aiding and abetting.
Cipollone doesn't get away with just handwringing at that point. He let stochastic planning to mobilize a mob go forward.
Later, he depended on Hutchinson and others to stop the president? Sorry. He's not off the hook.
Cipollone comes off as a passive aider and abettor of what he knew would be crimes. He SAID to Hutchinson that crimes were about to be committed. As the constitutional cop who failed to stop that, he cannot claim he was innocent.
NewHendoLib
(60,019 posts)The hour was absolutely gripping and horrifying
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Delphinus
(11,840 posts)was for me.
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)just that since they have been trying to get him to testify for some time and they had already planned the subject for this hearing, they could actually now insert clips from him that were relevant to the topic. Otherwise they would have moved on to the rest of this subject.
The CSPAN host mentioned that they had planned another prime time hearing Thursday but have pulled that and will reschedule.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)So far, he just let it unfold. He failed. That's what I get so far.
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)where you had "personalities" like Powell and Ghouliani who had the ear of the President and there was nothing anyone else claimed they could do. There was a whole segment of clips of people describing some late night meeting after the certification where all hell broke loose until early in the morning where people reported hearing the yelling and screaming thorough the walls.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Upthevibe
(8,071 posts)Seeing these LUNATICS calling for a red wedding isn't chilling enough?...Well, we all have our opinions. As they say, that's what makes the word go round.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)but Trumpists will claim theres no proof that Trump intended for it to happen. You know, it was just these crazies going off on their own.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)He's an evidentiary witness of actions and decisions he apparently did nothing to stop. I give him no credit for doing his job as the constitutional cop for The People.
He just didn't participate. But by DECIDING TO DO NOTHING, he passively aided and abetted.
You might want to believe he's the good guy. That's the media narrative so far. But so far I don't see it, and so I don't believe he's been the good guy at all
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)should not even have jobs. they should be in jail... and yet, still they continue every damn day to spread their lies.
crickets
(25,983 posts)The gutter guy came by the house a day early, with predictable timing.
What a time to join in, hearing about 'day of the rope' and 'pools of blood.' Good lord, they really were planning on killing people and they really did have detailed knowledge of the Capitol layout, including the tunnels. Wow.
Novara
(5,851 posts)crickets
(25,983 posts)the dots are being clearly identified. What remains is to draw concrete lines between them.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)If Napoleon Dynamite was a seditious dumbass.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)At least she's no longer talking about clouds and shadows and emails.
Novara
(5,851 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)livetohike
(22,163 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)since I have heard him referenced a million times but haven't seen him enough to recognize him.
I only know about the OTHER "Michael Steele".
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,528 posts)I can only imagine what's inked on his body.
livetohike
(22,163 posts)crickets
(25,983 posts)Link to tweet
If youre going to have a Jan. 6 defendant testify, you want one who has pleaded guilty but hasnt yet been sentenced. They can talk about what they did (relatively) freely, but they arent going to go off-script so to speak because the judge is going to hear what they say.
Ryan J. Reilly @ryanjreilly · 17h
A Capitol attack defendant who pleaded guilty last month but who has not yet been sentenced is set to testify before the Jan. 6 committee tomorrow.
Story with @kwelkernbc and @alivitali:
https://nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-defendant-expected-testify-panel-posted-trumps-will-wild-tweet-rcna37726
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IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)Well, maybe he'll be a patsy for the baloney :/
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)At least my CC hasn't butchered the name like that!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,528 posts)progressoid
(49,999 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)TFG and the insurrectionists. Sure, it looks and walks like a duck, but the prosecutors have to draw that thick line from TFG to the crazies.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Novara
(5,851 posts)IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)Chickens meet roost.
MLAA
(17,327 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)tRump tweets about a wild Jan 6 at 1:42 am. Made up his mind to get that out there to the public after the crazy meeting, and then, groups immediately start changing plans and organizing around Jan. 6th.
Women for America First changed their permit from a protest after the inauguration to Jan 6th in an e-mail sent the morning of Dec. 19th.
Ali Alexanders group registered wild protest dot com the day after tRumps tweet.
We saw the super cut of Alex Jones and the founder of thedonald.win, numerous violent online comments all coalesce their focus around Jan 6th per tRumps tweet.
woodsprite
(11,924 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)And Thomas, at a minimum, must recuse on any case involving tRumps coup machinations.
Novara
(5,851 posts)Otherwise she will turn it into a major clusterfuck.
No special process for her. Video deposition first.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)H2O Man
(73,605 posts)It is outstanding.
BumRushDaShow
(129,442 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)All the train riders will bring out the threatening, operational planning and ugliness of it all.
livetohike
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