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[YoshidaYui]

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[Torchlight]

1. Unless at home, in my office or car, I am and will remain masked

The better half has worked in a particular hospital since 2014. During the first half of 2020, her exhaustion from double- and triple-shifts plus my one close call w/ it convinced us that politics at the expense of science denial was a self-defeating victory of the stupid.

So many times we were met with the idiocy of people say "Am I the only one who thinks we're over-reacting to something less fatal than the flu?" How many times did we want to answer, "No. You're not the only idiot who thinks your politics and ignorance is a defense against science" but didn't.

Maybe we should have. ( 'we' meaning her and I, not the collective, all-of-us 'we' )

[demmiblue]

2. Permanent anosmia is not a new thing. n/t

[doublethink]

5. Maybe not, but from Covid?

That would be a 'new thing' ...Vax, Mask up, or don't. Peace.

[YoshidaYui]

11. Covid is not FUCKING AROUND

ITS already killed over a million people in this country, I wonder how many of them were stupid Republicans?

[OMGWTF]

53. A lot, according to astrophysist Neil deGrasse Tyson

He said it could be enough to turn some elections to the Dems.

[demmiblue]

15. Yes, from Covid.

I thought it was obvious that that was what I was referring to. Whoops!

JAMA did a study some time ago.

[doublethink]

29. Clarification confirmed .. big hugs ...

stay safe.

[Rebl2]

46. An aunt

of mine who is in her early nineties had it around Thanksgiving 2020 (before vaccinations) and it took her a long time to get her ability to taste back.

[Hortensis]

14. Yes, but at about 7% after a year, it's affecting many millions,

profoundly for many who can no longer enjoy food and many other things. I read they're working on treatments.

[demmiblue]

17. You seem to be creating an argument (yes, but) where there is none. n/t

[Hortensis]

21. (?) Sorry, you misunderstood. This was discussion. nt

[FBaggins]

3. MSNBC confirmed that some stoner/gamer in San Francisco will FOREVER wear a mask?

Okey dokey.

I would have been willing to take her word for it.

[YoshidaYui]

12. LOL

This MONSTER HUNTER is not afraid to go after monsters, but COVID??? Count me out!

Link to tweet

[FBaggins]

16. So that wasn't what they were confirming?

They certainly didn't confirm that the newest variant "permanently takes away your sense of smell"

The closest they've reported is that there is some anecdotal reporting (their cited expert says that it's too soon to tell) that patients have been more likely to report changes to their sense of smell. There hasn't been reporting that it's permanent nor even that most (let alone all) people experience that symptom.

In fact - the specific patient that they cite lost her sense of smell for five days and three weeks later it was just "not as keen" as it had been.

By all means, wear a mask... but don't overdo the actual risks.

[LexVegas]

18. That explanation doesn't seem as sensational as the OP.

[FBaggins]

19. To be fair. The poster has much bigger concerns.

Monsters can kill far quicker than viruses.

[YoshidaYui]

22. see this is where you are wrong...

The monsters I hunt, never ever kill you. (you probably don't watch my vids) You might get Knocked out but you can be ready in -minutes to retry the quest. I know how fucking Deadly COVID is... over a million people found out!

[HUAJIAO]

43. [phone]

[HUAJIAO]

44. [phone]

[YoshidaYui]

20. listen I received a text on my phone from MSNBC (breaking news)

that this variance can permanently take away your sense of smell... THEY could be wrong, but if so it would be irresponsible to put that warning out if it was false.

[FBaggins]

23. Yes

It was irresponsible of them to misrepresent the facts and their own reporting.

But "if it bleeds it leads" as they say.

[YoshidaYui]

24. i WISH I could give you link to my text

but t came to my phone from their ap, and doesn't seem to be on breaking news yet.. but if I see it I would post it here, I would never lie about something like this, because its deadly serious.

[FBaggins]

25. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I thought you were lying

Apologies if it came across that way.

But the text as described would be irresponsible. MSNBC isn't in a position to confirm that a recent variant permanently takes away your sense of smell. Their own reporting (and their cited experts) directly refutes that.

[YoshidaYui]

26. since I am immune compromised

I will always wear a N-95 when I go out, besides its required gear when I visit my hospital.

[BannonsLiver]

31. I always find it odd when people post their own tweets here like it's news.

Like are we supposed to break out in applause?

[HUAJIAO]

45. Yoshida Yui is a much-loved poster here for years,, kind of an 'All-Star.'

Maybe cut her some slack.

[Deuxcents]

4. I never stopped wearing mine..

Have had a few looks about it but I don’t care.

[YoshidaYui]

13. awesome

[DENVERPOPS]

34. Same here Deux

These new mutations are extremely virulent and contagious. I have had a ton of friends and acquaintances come down with it in the past few weeks. Several nurse friends have thrown in the towel, and quit, and I hear that is becoming common thru out the people in the Health Profession. They all feel that the past two years of bullshit have allowed it to continue to mutate into worse variants and they don't want any part of catching it from people who ignore the facts and refuse to get vaccinated and/or wear masks.

[oldsoftie]

39. But its appeared even in countries with very high mask usage.

Covid seems to find a way around whatever we come up with; although this latest version still hasn't crowded hospitals. yet.

[DENVERPOPS]

62. Yet. Maybe it won't

but they are also worried about a thing called "LongCovid" which is turning up more often. Long term resultant health problems from the Covid. Heart, Lungs, Liver, Kidneys and Brain maladies......

We have been masking with the best masks since it started to hit in the U.S. years ago. We mask in public, avoid any gathering, we mask when kids and grand kids come over, neighbors, etc etc etc. So far we have been Covid free........

[LetMyPeopleVote]

6. I still wear my mask when i am out in public

[50 Shades Of Blue]

10. Ditto!

[LexVegas]

7. ...

[marble falls]

8. Nothing indicates this might be a good time to unmask. I am not sure why it seems like ...

... the government doesn't seem to be as concerned as its own experts and CDC seems to be.


We still have an epidemic in the US, at least.

[barbaraann]

9. I'm back to wearing a mask AND we bought respirators.

In case things get really bad with Covid or forest fires. (Respirators are reasonably priced and available now.)

[Ferrets are Cool]

27. Never stopped

[Sky Jewels]

28. That's scary.

However, is it really possible for them to know if the loss of smell is permanent in most/all people? Maybe I'm wrong (and I'm not pretending to have expertise in this), but that seems like a stretch. This is a new variant; how would they know?

[YoshidaYui]

32. I don't know , perhaps the hospitals keep records

of what their patients report.. I don't know how they know, I only know that the message sent on my ap, was that this variant is said to permanently take away your sense of smell.... How IT does it, I have no idea, and as I said up thread for them to send this text out and be totally wrong, would be irresponsible and perhaps even be liable and open to a law suit.

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. It's too early for anyone to make statements about "permanent" effects with a recent variant

It took months for some people to recover their sense of smell from previous variants. Here's an NBC article, claiming much less:

“What I am seeing in my corner of the world is a spike,” she said. “There seems to be more requests than earlier this year but still significantly less than with delta.”

Until now, each variant and subvariant of concern has appeared to carry a lesser risk of loss of smell than the last. A study published in May found that the alpha variant — the first variant of concern — was half as likely to impair smell than the original version of the coronavirus. During the delta wave, the odds people would experience an impaired sense of smell fell to 44%. During the winter omicron wave, it fell further, to 17%.

Dr. Lauren Roland, a rhinologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, said it’s too soon to say for sure if BA.5 is causing more cases of anosmia — complete loss of smell — than the original omicron variant.

“These patients usually don’t come in until several months after they’ve lost their smell and we don’t get a lot of information until after the wave,” she said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ba5-symptoms-loss-smell-common-rcna37961

[YoshidaYui]

55. Thanks

Added it to my post!

[ashredux]

30. 😷 is the only way to stay safe

[AZSkiffyGeek]

33. Recovering from COVID

Positive a week ago. Lost smell on Thursday. It had returned by Saturday. My wife also got COVID and lost smell for a couple days.
Taste was wonky as well, but that seems to have been from the Paxlovid.
But definitely not permanent.
Also I'm double boosted and mask every time I go out of my house.

[niyad]

35. I never stopped wearing mine. .despite being extremely claustrophobic,

with a tendency to hypoxia when wearing them.

[peppertree]

52. Same here

It's about one in a hundred people I see wearing them anymore - but I'm proud to be in that company.

Plus mine has a nice gray color; matches my personality.

[niyad]

36. A friend who had a fairly mild case of Covid in Oct. '20, STILL does not have

her sense of taste (and she was catering before this). Her sense of smell took about six months to return.

[SunSeeker]

38. A friend and his wife got covid last week, and didn't lose their sense of smell.

But they were fully vaccinated, including 2 boosters.

[oldsoftie]

42. And some of my stubborn friends hear that & say "why bother?" with the shots

And I try to tell them "because the shots will most likely keep you OUT of the hospital. THATS why

[SunSeeker]

58. My buddy has diabetes and high blood pressure. He's convinced his Moderna shots saved his life.

I'm sure he's right. People like him, in their late 60s, with those underlying conditions, were ripped apart by covid before vaccines came out.

[Rebl2]

40. Who said this

out of curiosity

[demmiblue]

48. She has no idea... it was just a text she received from MSNBC (reply #24). n/t.

[Rebl2]

49. Okay

[tymorial]

41. I never stopped wearing a mask

I don't wear an n95 but I still wear surgical masks. I am practically alone though and this is Rhode Island. We had excellent covid response and participation by residents. I am aware people look at me sideways and some show irritation. I give zero fucks. We are 45 and 46 with a 6 year old. We need to be around for her. I am taking no risks.

[anarch]

47. yep, I still can't smell much of anything

makes me not really want to eat food. Also I have what I've pretty much accepted as permanent lung damage/persistent breathing problems.

it's a shame we didn't have some kind of pandemic response team, with a coordinated plan to mitigate pandemics like this; it could have been stopped before it got out of control. Hard to believe somebody didn't think to pull something like that together after the whole SARS thing, and ebola and all that.

[certainot]

60. trump wanted it to get worse. if not he would not have had limbaugh call it a hoax in the beginning

there's a pic of trump and limbaugh having lunch around christmas 2019, about the time trump would gotten intel briefings that COVID was coming. worse case scenarios would include millions dying, state of emergency, delayed elections. and trump would love it.

in 2019 ebola hit congo bad and limbaugh and sons were getting ready to use it to push anti immigration like after the first ebola - they got 9 senate seats that time. this time 2019 Limbaugh was talking about congolese in the caravans at the southern border and russians? were using social media etc to get local congolese to attack clinics and doctors to make it worse. luckily they came up with a cure.

then came COVID - they wanted it to get worse, that was the resistance. otherwise trump would have gotten limbaugh and the 1500 radio stations that followed his lead to push masks and vaccines etc.

obama did have a response team, and trump killed it

[relayerbob]

50. Sense of smell is the least of my concerns

Cardiomyopathy is a MUCH more serious long term consequence. Either way, I'm masked now and will remain so for the foreseable future

[YoshidaYui]

51. Un!

Yup! That’s very True…

[ananda]

54. I couldn't find anything on permanent loss of smell.. just temporary.

...

[YoshidaYui]

56. This

Link to tweet

?s=21&t=9ZqhRu2KTXTyis5C8IuhJQ

[ananda]

57. I read that.

It's not good, but I don't think it's much different
from earlier versions.

[YoshidaYui]

59. Fine

Enjoy your day

[SleeplessinSoCal]

61. Googled to see other reports.

This is from May, so it may be out of date.

https://news.yahoo.com/newer-covid-19-variants-less-173620543.html

[YoshidaYui]

63. Why would MSNBC send out a text

That is several months old? I love how so many on this board are calling me a liar. This is why I don’t want to post her anymore. I don’t think I will post anymore - from now on I will STAY IN MY LANE!