Logs show 10 House Republicans attended White House meeting on pressuring Pence

[Kid Berwyn]

“Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.”

Logs show 10 House Republicans attended White House meeting on pressuring Pence

by Andrew Solender
Axios, July 12, 2022

Ten Republican members of Congress attended a Dec. 21 White House meeting focused on efforts to pressure former Vice President Mike Pence to help overturn the 2020 election, according to the Jan. 6 committee.

Why it matters: The revelation underscores how deep the involvement of some lawmakers were in former President Trump's schemes to overturn the election even after the electoral college met to affirm President Biden's victory.

Driving the news: Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.) said at a hearing on Tuesday that White House visitor logs reveal 10 members were physically in attendance:

Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas)
Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)
Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.)
Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio)
Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.)
Now-Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)

The backdrop: Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson told the panel in closed-door testimony that members "felt that [Pence] had the authority to ... [send] the electors back to the States," according to a court filing from April.

Hutchinson noted that "they dialed in a few Members over the course of that meeting."
She mentioned two members – Reps. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) and Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) – who were not in the visitor logs cited by Murphy.

Source: https://www.axios.com/2022/07/12/house-republicans-jan6-white-house

Who are the others in Congress who went along with treason? Asking for a Democracy.

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. I think there were 147 that didn't vote to certify the election.

I can’t remember the details of their voting, but I remember the 147 number.

[Kid Berwyn]

19. Thanks! Here are the traitors' names...

Senate

Tommy Tuberville, Ala.

Rick Scott, Fla.

Roger Marshall, Kan.

John Kennedy, La.

Cindy Hyde-Smith, Miss.

Josh Hawley, Mo.

Ted Cruz, Texas

Cynthia Lummis, Wyo.

House

Robert B. Aderholt, Ala.

Mo Brooks, Ala.

Jerry Carl, Ala.

Barry Moore, Ala.

Gary Palmer, Ala.

Mike Rogers, Ala.

Andy Biggs, Ariz.

Paul Gosar, Ariz.

Debbie Lesko, Ariz.

David Schweikert, Ariz.

Rick Crawford, Ark.

Ken Calvert, Calif.

Mike Garcia, Calif.

Darrell Issa, Calif.

Doug LaMalfa, Calif.

Kevin McCarthy, Calif.

Devin Nunes, Calif.

Jay Obernolte, Calif.

Lauren Boebert, Colo.

Doug Lamborn, Colo.

Kat Cammack, Fla.

Mario Diaz-Balart, Fla.

Byron Donalds, Fla.

Neal Dunn, Fla.

Scott Franklin, Fla.

Matt Gaetz, Fla.

Carlos Gimenez, Fla.

Brian Mast, Fla.

Bill Posey, Fla.

John Rutherford, Fla.

Greg Steube, Fla.

Daniel Webster, Fla.

Rick Allen, Ga.

Earl L. "Buddy" Carter, Ga.

Andrew Clyde, Ga.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ga.

Jody Hice, Ga.

Barry Loudermilk, Ga.

Russ Fulcher, Idaho

Mike Bost, Ill.

Mary Miller, Ill.

Jim Baird, Ind.

Jim Banks, Ind.

Greg Pence, Ind.

Jackie Walorski, Ind.

Ron Estes, Kan.

Jacob LaTurner, Kan.

Tracey Mann, Kan.

Harold Rogers, Ky.

Garret Graves, La.

Clay Higgins, La.

Mike Johnson, La.

Steve Scalise, La.

Andy Harris, Md.

Jack Bergman, Mich.

Lisa McClain, Mich.

Tim Walberg, Mich.

Michelle Fischbach, Minn.

Jim Hagedorn, Minn.

Michael Guest, Miss.

Trent Kelly, Miss.

Steven Palazzo, Miss.

Sam Graves, Mo.

Vicky Hartzler, Mo.

Billy Long, Mo.

Blaine Luetkemeyer, Mo.

Jason Smith, Mo.

Matt Rosendale, Mont.

Dan Bishop, N.C.

Ted Budd, N.C.

Madison Cawthorn, N.C.

Virginia Foxx, N.C.

Richard Hudson, N.C.

Gregory F. Murphy, N.C.

David Rouzer, N.C.

Jeff Van Drew, N.J.

Yvette Herrell, N.M.

Chris Jacobs, N.Y.

Nicole Malliotakis, N.Y.

Elise M. Stefanik, N.Y.

Lee Zeldin, N.Y.

Adrian Smith, Neb.

Steve Chabot, Ohio

Warren Davidson, Ohio

Bob Gibbs, Ohio

Bill Johnson, Ohio

Jim Jordan, Ohio

Stephanie Bice, Okla.

Tom Cole, Okla.

Kevin Hern, Okla.

Frank Lucas, Okla.

Markwayne Mullin, Okla.

Cliff Bentz, Ore.

John Joyce, Pa.

Fred Keller, Pa.

Mike Kelly, Pa.

Daniel Meuser, Pa.

Scott Perry, Pa.

Guy Reschenthaler, Pa.

Lloyd Smucker, Pa.

Glenn Thompson, Pa.

Jeff Duncan, S.C.

Ralph Norman, S.C.

Tom Rice, S.C.

William Timmons, S.C.

Joe Wilson, S.C.

Tim Burchett, Tenn.

Scott DesJarlais, Tenn.

Chuck Fleischmann, Tenn.

Mark E. Green, Tenn.

Diana Harshbarger, Tenn.

David Kustoff, Tenn.

John Rose, Tenn.

Jodey Arrington, Texas

Brian Babin, Texas

Michael C. Burgess, Texas

John R. Carter, Texas

Michael Cloud, Texas

Pat Fallon, Texas

Louie Gohmert, Texas

Lance Gooden, Texas

Ronny Jackson, Texas

Troy Nehls, Texas

August Pfluger, Texas

Pete Sessions, Texas

Beth Van Duyne, Texas

Randy Weber, Texas

Roger Williams, Texas

Ron Wright, Texas

Burgess Owens, Utah

Chris Stewart, Utah

Ben Cline, Va.

Bob Good, Va.

Morgan Griffith, Va.

Robert J. Wittman, Va.

Carol Miller, W.Va.

Alexander X. Mooney, W.Va.

Scott Fitzgerald, Wis.

Tom Tiffany, Wis.

Source: The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html

[ok_cpu]

21. And they primaried Gibbs in Ohio anyway

Forced him to retire, even after he sold out. Nothing is enough for that crowd.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Volunteerkorps for Amerika

One of the email subject areas referred to in the J6 hearing were the proud girl types who promptly volunteered for service on the firing squads.

[rampartc]

35. brooks gave a speech at the jan 6 "rally"

and trump endorsed his primary opponent.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. Thanks Kid

[kacekwl]

33. I'm sure they were all told

You know what we, trump will do to you if you don't vote our way. Those on the list whether they agreed or not were too weak to defy the order. The fact that many on that list did know they were wrong makes it more tratorus in my book.

[Botany]

2. Who are the others in Congress who went along with treason? Asking for a Democracy.

Well in the senate we have Josh Hawley and Chuck "I don't think Vice President Pence will
be here for the vote count" Grassely

[Kid Berwyn]

20. They should have been removed from office EOB January 6.

Without that crowd voting down every bill that would bring justice, equality or progress we could really change the future.

As is, all they do is sabotage all that benefits We the People.

PS: US Rep. Greg Pence (T-Ind.), FWIW, voted with the traitors who tried to hang his brother the Vice President.

The other scum buckets are named above in Reply 19.

[MissMillie]

3. In less than 4 months...

Every single one of these law-breakers is up for re-election.

Every single one was willing to disregard the votes of the people. It's called "Conspiracy to de-fraud the United States."


If THAT isn't a campaign add, I don't know what it.

[Meadowoak]

4. Unfortunately, many of them will receive more votes because of it.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. "Who are the others in Congress who went along with treason?"

Cancun Carival Cruz was in the background working with Eastman to concoct the loony "legal" (in quotes) theories -

Inside Ted Cruz’s last-ditch battle to keep Trump in power


by Michael Kranish, The Washington Post March 28, 20223 PM Central

(snip)

An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz’s actions between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths to court Trump’s base and lay the groundwork for his own potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning his principles.

Now, Cruz’s efforts are of interest to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, in particular whether Cruz was in contact with Trump lawyer John Eastman, a conservative attorney who has been his friend for decades and who wrote key legal memos aimed at denying Biden’s victory.

As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike Pence could deny certifying Biden’s election, Cruz crafted a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting the Electoral College results on Jan. 6 in favor of a 10-day “audit” — thus potentially enabling GOP state legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on the day rioters attacked the Capitol.

The committee’s interest in Cruz is notable as investigators zero in on how closely Trump’s allies coordinated with members of Congress in the attempt to block or delay certifying Biden’s victory. If Cruz’s plan worked, it could have created enough chaos for Trump to remain in power.

(snip)


https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-donald-trump/

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. And their constituents believe it was stolen

[ancianita]

17. And all of it unconstitutional per the 12th Amendment. Ignorance of the Constitution is no excuse.

They all conspired to obstruct the peaceful transference of power per the 12th Amendment.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Well - they were actually trying to manufacture options

Including one that is in the 12th Amendment. I.e., -

12th Amendment

Amendment XII

(snip)

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxii

They wanted to "object" to enough states to sow doubt and try to force not accepting the Electoral College Certificates. This path would somehow magically assume enough votes to actually have that happen despite Democrats controlling the House and in no way going along with that.

So failing the above, they would then declare that because there are "all these objections anyway", then the "election is muddled" and the decision should go back to the states (legislatures) to decide to make the decision by referencing the ambiguous "Electoral Count Act of 1877 as codified here, and where a cacophony of guidance is given for dealing with competing slates of electors and how to decide as noted here.

It's bad enough that the 12th Amendment was ratified to be a fix to the original process established in Article II, Sect. 1, and the Electoral Count Act was again an attempt to correct what is obviously convoluted process in the Constitution.

In any case, the "pomp and circumstance" that we have become accustomed to with respect to what is normally a "ceremonial" process in Congress, is actually a result of what is in the "Electoral Count Act f 1877" but right now, Congress IS working on fixing THAT and I just saw a breaking news on one update to that process -

In response to Trump, senators agree to clarify vice president's role in electoral certification

By Manu Raju and Ted Barrett, CNN

Updated 12:57 PM ET, Thu July 14, 2022


(CNN)Senators from both parties have reached an agreement to clarify that the vice president only has a ceremonial role in overseeing the certification of the electoral results, according to two Senate sources, the first legislative response to former President Donald Trump's pressure campaign to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. The agreement will be part of a larger deal to overhaul the Electoral Count Act, which a bipartisan group of senators plans to unveil as soon as next week.

The effort was spawned by Trump's effort to get Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence to disregard now-President Joe Biden's electoral win and install him into a second term, with senators looking to make it harder to do that future. While constitutional experts and others say the vice president currently can't disregard a state certified electoral result, Trump continually berated Pence over the issue and told him to simply send the matter back to the states.

Pence resisted the effort -- despite being a target of Trump and his mob of supporters who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The pressure campaign against the vice president has been a key part of the House select committee's investigation into the Capitol Hill insurrection.That larger deal is close to being finalized, with senators meeting Wednesday night saying that they are still ironing out some of the language.

"We're hopeful," said Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat of West Virginia, on Wednesday about the timetable for announcing a deal. "We are very close. We have a few technical issues to iron out. And I'm very hopeful we'll have a bill early next week," said Sen. Susan Collins, a Maine Republican, on Wednesday who added that because of jurisdictional issues, the group may propose a series of bills to address the needed reforms, but they have not made a decision on that yet.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/electoral-count-act-agreement-senators/index.html

[ancianita]

30. "trying to manufacture options" Judge Lettig said that 12A is clear, no add-ons, no different

ways to do anything beyond what 12A actually says.

Now it's suddenly important to update the Electoral Count Act. I don't trust anything Republicans are involved in.

Under oath, Judge Luttig said "...Donald Trump and allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy...I would have never spoken those words ever in my life except that that’s what the former president and his allies are telling us, as I said in that New York Times op ed wherein I was speaking about the Electoral Count Act of 1887. The former president and his allies are executing that blueprint for 2024 in open and plain view of the American public...."

[BumRushDaShow]

34. I don't know if you watched the Electoral count proceedings in Congress on January 6

before the attack, but those procedures including an alphabetical roll call of states, reading off the tally, asking for objections, debating the objections in each chamber, etc., is all per the "Electoral Count Act".

The problem is the (sadly correct) assumption that Americans are clueless about the electoral process, and since the GOP has 23 states with trifecta governments out of a total of 28 with GOP governors, if they can somehow throw the decision back to the states (that they control), and I expect some could or would pass a state law changing their election process, then they can control the way Electors are selected by proclaiming "fraud" and then seizing control of that process, ignoring the popular vote, and muddling who is considered the "Executive" of a state (Governor? Secretary of State? ) who would provide the Certificate of Ascertainment.

The states targeted were those that voted for Biden where the GOP either had trifecta control (AZ, GA) or had legislative control (MI, PA, WI).

So updating that Act is of primary importance, again because there is nothing in the 12th Amendment that actually spells as the step-by-step process - and it was only passed because of a historical nightmare elections in 1880 (where the popular vote difference between Garfield (R) and Hancock (D), was less than 2000 votes, although Garfield handily won the Electoral votes).

If anything though, we have seen worse Electoral vs popular vote problems in our lifetimes where the winner of the Presidency lost the popular vote by both 500,000 (in 2000) and 3,000,000 (in 2016), but that issue would require a Constitutional amendment that ain't happening any time soon.

In any case, that law hds been used generally without all the drama (including having members "objecting" to state counts from either party but all of those objections being cast aside due to not meeting the full requirement to move forward with a debate) for 140+ years leading up to 2020.

How could the Elect­oral Count Act be used to under­mine future elec­tions?

As Trump’s failed pres­sure campaign target­ing state offi­cials under­scores, the most potent threat to the orderly trans­fer of power is not disrup­tion of the joint session itself, but malfeas­ance in the states before­hand.

Experts agree that the Elect­oral Count Act does not author­ize state offi­cials to arbit­rar­ily set aside elec­tion results and that doing so would be illegal. But unscru­pu­lous actors may still try to exploit the law’s vague provi­sions — espe­cially those allow­ing a state legis­lature to appoint elect­ors if the state “fails to make a choice” on Elec­tion Day and fill elector vacan­cies “by law” — to justify tamper­ing with pres­id­en­tial elec­tion results. Many state legis­lat­ors have in fact expressed sympathy or outright support for claims the 2020 elec­tion was stolen, as have a number of lead­ing candid­ates for governor and secret­ary of state in key swing states — making the cent­ral role the law assigns to a state’s “exec­ut­ive” another poten­tial source of mischief.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-fix-electoral-count-act

So there are a number of orgs and members of Congress who want to clean this up and there have been some interesting recommendations. The good thing is that there has been bipartisan agreement regarding the need to fix it and it goes beyond the insurrectionists in Congress. It must happen now before more loons get elected to office and this country will truly be toast.

[ancianita]

37. Thanks. Your posts are always an education. I get it, & am still wary of Republicans' involvement.

Hoping for party unity on this and bipartisan agreement is in the Senate.

[Paladin]

6. Fuck you DEAD, Louie! (nt)

[turbinetree]

8. Andy Harris is a POS.....traitor....

think I will go down to the Bel Air office with a sign in the coming days......and stand out on the sidewalk where I can exercise my First Amendment Right .......that he wanted to take away from all Maryland voters and across this country ......he wanted to over throw a duly elected government.......and install a traitor...install a fucking traitor.......

[Old Okie]

11. Andy Harris

Is anyone running against him, anyplace I can send money. Fellow Marylander but not in his district.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

14. Democrats running to replace Andy Hairyass

R. David Harden, Carroll County
Heather R. Mizeur, Kent County

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Andy Harris' total bullshit statement when asked about this by local media:

“I haven’t had a chance to watch the hearing today,” it said. “I was busy working on important issues like bringing down the price of gas and groceries and securing our communities against violent crime.”

Who the fuck does he think will believe that? Just right wing BULLSHIT.

And I would bet anything he's watched every minute of the hearings cuz he knows his own ass is in the noose.

[Traildogbob]

12. And what

Was the follow up question? Give an example of anything you are WORKING so hard on to accomplish any of that. Do you mean GUN violence? I get it, Chunk Toad killed the follow up for GQP.

[Hotler]

10. Kicking. nt

[Sky Jewels]

15. They all belong in prison, not Congress

Lock them up, along with all the other treasonous traitors who voted to destroy democracy.

[Martin68]

16. These 10 people should be charged with sedition for pressuring the Vice President to illegally

stop the electoral count.

[AntiFascist]

22. The brain behind "Operation Pence Card" was a known associate of Michael Flynn...

What we know about Ivan Raiklin and the "Pence Card"

...
Raiklin first posted the “Pence Card” document on his social media accounts in mid-December 2020.

Trump appeared to endorse the plan, retweeting one of Raiklin’s posts about the “Pence Card” on Dec. 23, 2020.

Raiklin posted his plan weeks before conservative attorney John Eastman drafted his own memo outlining a similar plan, which was embraced by Trump despite warnings it was not legally sound.

Raiklin served as a Green Beret and at the Defense Intelligence Agency. He has known Flynn for several years.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/january-6-hearings-june-16/h_5cb75e4babd00cc7b68a62e35a09fa68

[Emile]

23. Traitors to democracy! Gym Jordan better go back into hiding!

[onetexan]

25. Pence knew of the plot & kept his mouth shut

He is complicit as well.

[BlueIdaho]

26. Do we have enough elected officials loyal to their oaths

To stop the overthrow of our democracy and the destruction of our constitutional rights?

[Hassler]

27. They must have known that BoeBoe was too dumb to be part of the conspiracy

They knew she'd blab about it.

[Cha]

29. TY!

[pwb]

31. I remember when reporters use to let this type walk on by.

Now they are sought out by our Wealth owned media.

[Cha]

32. TY, KB!

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Snoopy 7]

36. the two

Both of the two TRAITORS are in close proximity to each others district. The districts are mainly rural and quite "red". Their constituents won't do anything to them because they agree with them.