Pledge of Allegiance sign before 1954

[superpatriotman]

[unc70]

1. How I learned it, how I still say it

[Scottie Mom]

2. I absolutely refuse to say "under gawd" whenever I say the Pledge.

Thank you very much...but no fucking way am I gonna give honor to Joe McCarthy.

[SergeStorms]

15. Yeah, I'm not doing that either.

If there were any gods they wouldn't have allowed their prized posession (the U.S. supposedly) to be touched by a single republican. That's like having a convicted pedophile babysit your kids.

[Auggie]

22. Do what Robin Williams suggested: say "One nation, under Canada, ..."

Williams:

[japple]

26. I love it!!! My late father was a member of a US/Canadian joint military unit in WWII

--the First Special Service Force. We have been to several of the reunions of "the Force" and always sing the national anthems to the US and Canada. At the reunion banquet, we always toast to the heads of state in each country. At the last reunion we attended, the toast was to the "office of the president of the United States!" BTW, we have always preferred the "O Canada" to the star spangled banner.

[3catwoman3]

31. The Canadian national anthem...

…is just beautiful.

I like the change they made from “in all thy sons command” to “in all of us command.”

[Totally Tunsie]

32. Do you also not use U.S. currency?

"In God We Trust" on every bill.

[Walleye]

3. When I was in elementary school we had a teacher who would forget to say the "under god"

That’s how I knew it had been rewritten. Didn’t understand the right wing then, still don’t,of course. It was supposed to be because of the “godless Commies”

[Glorfindel]

7. Interestingly, the Knights of Columbus give themselves credit for adding the words

https://www.kofc.org/un/en/resources/communications/pledgeAllegiance.pdf

[Walleye]

9. One nation, under God, very divisible

[dalton99a]

10. +1. Another thing shoved down our throats by the goddamn Catholic/Italian Fascists

[EarnestPutz]

24. wow

[2naSalit]

4. K&R

[Timewas]

5. Yes

That is it and the only one

[Glorfindel]

6. That's how I learned it. I remember well when it was changed.

I never say "under God" to this day. I miss being able to say "one naked individual."

[Totally Tunsie]

34. Do you also not use U.S. currency?

"In God We Trust" on every bill.

[delisen]

8. God was placed between one nation and indivisible to divide us. nt

The phrase one nation indivisible stated our unity.

That emphasis has been lost to the generations of children who have recited it daily ever since it was changed.

[Martin68]

12. No, I believe it was to give the oath an anti-communist flavor. People went nuts about communism in

the 50s, with McCarthyism etc. I remember leafing through copies of Reader's Digest in my neighbor's basement as a child. Every issue had all caps bold red headlines screaming about the COMMUNIST MENACE.

[delisen]

16. Yes God was added during the commie hysteria but placement was another choice.

God could have been added after one nation indivisible. The choice to place it between was, I believe, a clever manipulation but the states rights proponents who were also very active at the time.

I have no proof.

[Martin68]

11. Frankly I bridle at the thought of being expected to give an oath of allegiance to anything.

Anybody can swear to honor and obey, serve and protect, carry out duties and defend the Constitution. Just look at the hundreds of Republicans who broke their oath of office on January 6th. I suggest our actions prove who we are, not some oath to a flag or on a Bible.

[Caliman73]

14. True, but you take the oath so that you can be held accountable for breaking it.

Our actions do say more than our words. If our actions contradict our words then we suffer the legal consequences if any, and we should suffer the social consequences of betrayal. Of course, in practice, we don't like holding powerful people accountable, but that is, in theory, what the oath is about.

[Martin68]

23. How many oath breaking Republicans have ben held accountable.? Has anyone even suggested that

Trump should be indicted for breaking his oath of office? That's why I think the idea is absurd.

[Caliman73]

28. Few. Few of any powerful people are held accountable.

Trump was ousted from office for breaking his oath of office. He should be indicted for crimes, which occurred as a result of his breaking his oath of office, as should others who do the same.

The idea is not absurd. The implementation and accountability mechanisms may be.

[rsdsharp]

13. And, it was written by a socialist.

[kskiska]

17. That's how I learned it.

I remember when it changed all of a sudden, too. We also had to recite the Lord's Prayer in public school, and sing "My Country 'Tis of Thee."

Before WWII, school kids saluted the flag with one arm extended, Nazi-style.

[niyad]

18. I don't do loyalty oaths.

[RussBLib]

19. SCOTUS wants to turn the clock back

let's go back to this too. Fanatical religionistas inserted it. Red scare!! Praise God!

[roamer65]

20. American coins and paper money didnt used to have the religious crap on it, either.

1957 was when they start sticking it on paper currency.

[Ilsa]

21. They thought the two words would scare off "Commies"?

"Look at me! I invoke God more than any of you! I can't be a Commie!"

[sanatanadharma]

25. "One Nation, clearly divided ...

... lacking Liberty and Justice for all"

[Wild blueberry]

27. That's how I learned it, that's how I say it

Had to say the pledge at the start of every town board meeting (was a supervisor for three terms) but I was silent for the "under god" part. Also, I crossed out the "so help me god" part of the oath of office.

[DFW]

29. 1954? How about 1892?

The pledge was originally composed by a socialist Baptist minister (!) named Francis Bellamy. He originally wrote, “I pledge allegiance to my flag,” without mentioning which country, so that it could be used by any country.

Bellamy specifically demanded that no changes ever be made to his pledge—something that obviously was not respected. The final perversion, “under God,” was added in 1954 at the insistence of the Catholic Knights of Columbus, something that would have enraged Bellamy and horrified Jefferson and Madison.

[3catwoman3]

33. Mr. Bellamy attended the...

…University of Rochester, my alma mater.

[LoisB]

30. That is how I learned it. Then one day, many moons ago, I decided I wasn't going to pledge

anymore.

[AllaN01Bear]

35. look up old glory porky where he tries to recite the pledge and initialy cannt

the modern right wingers had a hissy fit over this . the lines with god were value added after macarthy commission nonsense .