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Nevilledog

(55,176 posts)
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:02 AM Jul 2022

WI woman bled for 10 days because hospital wouldn't remove incomplete miscarriage



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Fenit Nirappil
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Jul 16, 2022
NEW: @FrancesSSellers & I have been investigating Dobbs' consequences.

We found the standard of care for incomplete miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications is being scrutinized, delayed — even denied — jeopardizing maternal health

washingtonpost.com
Confusion post-Roe spurs delays, denials for some lifesaving pregnancy care
Miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications are now scrutinized, jeopardizing maternal health.

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In Wisconsin, a woman bled for more than 10 days from an incomplete miscarriage after emergency room staff would not remove the fetal tissue

washingtonpost.com
Confusion post-Roe spurs delays, denials for some lifesaving pregnancy care
Miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications are now scrutinized, jeopardizing maternal health.
6:59 AM · Jul 16, 2022


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/07/16/abortion-miscarriage-ectopic-pregnancy-care/

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https://archive.ph/vPfn5

A woman with a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy sought emergency care at the University of Michigan Hospital after a doctor in her home state worried that the presence of a fetal heartbeat meant treating her might run afoul of new restrictions on abortion.

At one Kansas City, Mo., hospital, administrators temporarily required “pharmacist approval” before dispensing medications used to stop postpartum hemorrhages, because they can also be also used for abortions.

And in Wisconsin, a woman bled for more than 10 days from an incomplete miscarriage after emergency room staff would not remove the fetal tissue amid a confusing legal landscape that has roiled obstetric care.

In the three weeks of turmoil since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion, many physicians and patients have been navigating a new reality in which the standard of care for incomplete miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications is being scrutinized, delayed — even denied — jeopardizing maternal health, according to the accounts of doctors in multiple states where new laws have gone into effect.

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WI woman bled for 10 days because hospital wouldn't remove incomplete miscarriage (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2022 OP
Welcome to the best healthcare in the world... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #1
The GOP doesn't care if schoolchildren are regularly slaughtered. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #2
The GOP is hell bent on Americans dying horrible deaths. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #3
It's TFG's "American carnage." evolves Jul 2022 #18
Yep. Death, destruction, pain and suffering. The GOP promise to Americans. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #19
See everyone he kept a campaign promise. plimsoll Jul 2022 #25
It's TFG's "American carnage." evolves Jul 2022 #20
Since the USSR can't destroy us with bombs, they'll do it by infecting the weak-minded erronis Jul 2022 #37
Putin is killing Americans in droves without firing a shot. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #40
Barbaric Cruelty in Defense of Religion is No Vice dalton99a Jul 2022 #4
We are becoming a fascist country. For now Illinois is trying to get more federal funding mucifer Jul 2022 #5
Secure your borders DFW Jul 2022 #10
Thank you for posting the link with no paywall. SamKnause Jul 2022 #6
I try. Nevilledog Jul 2022 #9
And I did read it. SamKnause Jul 2022 #11
Who knew so many Dr's are cowards. nt. Mosby Jul 2022 #7
It's easy for us to think that, but when a doctor is potentially facing a long prison sentence, LisaL Jul 2022 #15
Where from WI? LakeArenal Jul 2022 #8
It doesn't say, but I think a University Hospital milestogo Jul 2022 #26
Wisconsinites should have the right to know. LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #33
I sure hope so. Even St Mary's in Madison would refuse all together. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #35
before Roe v Wade agingdem Jul 2022 #12
And just to think thatI used to chuckle over the fact that at age 23 I had a D&C for a "home alone" Backseat Driver Jul 2022 #31
I am also moniss Jul 2022 #32
For sure, I'll never know, but my doctor who was very Catholic, Backseat Driver Jul 2022 #43
Same here - but at the time unfortunately I had just temporarily moved from NM to NC womanofthehills Jul 2022 #34
Prisoners in concentration camps BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #13
Women will die. Solly Mack Jul 2022 #14
Sue republicans for medical malpractice. Turbineguy Jul 2022 #16
Sounds like a shit hole country to me. NT raccoon Jul 2022 #17
Its the shithole Wisconsin Republicans milestogo Jul 2022 #22
How is this not medical malpractice? IDGAF what laws a state has in place, this is not medical care! NullTuples Jul 2022 #21
Its not malpractice if it endangers the life of a pregnant woman, who by nature milestogo Jul 2022 #23
+1 Women are mere vessels in the service of the state. bronxiteforever Jul 2022 #38
When I was young, I used to think "bad things will never happen to me" Racygrandma Jul 2022 #24
In my naiveity, I thought something similar about my future... Backseat Driver Jul 2022 #42
That is torture, period. CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #27
100 years ago, my grandmother died wnylib Jul 2022 #28
+100 what a sad story. To think the GOP will force this bronxiteforever Jul 2022 #41
Meh - it's just Women's health. Who even gives a damn? calimary Jul 2022 #29
GOD DAMN THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT FROM THESE FUCKING THEOFASCISTS LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #30
May all these woman-haters rot in their hell, after suffering every single minute of the torment, niyad Jul 2022 #36
Horrific!! Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #39

Irish_Dem

(82,741 posts)
2. The GOP doesn't care if schoolchildren are regularly slaughtered.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jul 2022

Why would they care about young women?

Irish_Dem

(82,741 posts)
3. The GOP is hell bent on Americans dying horrible deaths.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:08 AM
Jul 2022

Covid deaths, mass gun violence, now women cannot receive healthcare.

A major political party in the US, the GOP, clearly hates Americans.

erronis

(24,670 posts)
37. Since the USSR can't destroy us with bombs, they'll do it by infecting the weak-minded
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jul 2022

By the USSR, read Russia and libertarians/oligarchs around the world
For the weak-minded, read RW, magats, evangelicals, trumpers, insurrectionists - or as Hillary so nicely said: deplorables.

Irish_Dem

(82,741 posts)
40. Putin is killing Americans in droves without firing a shot.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jul 2022

Have to give him credit as a diabolical genius.

Of course he has a lot of help from the criminal GOP elite.

mucifer

(25,745 posts)
5. We are becoming a fascist country. For now Illinois is trying to get more federal funding
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jul 2022

because women are coming here from the surrounding states.

We will stay pro choice unless repubs take over all of congress. But, looks like our surrounding states are all going nut bag. I'm hoping things will change.

DFW

(60,553 posts)
10. Secure your borders
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:32 AM
Jul 2022

In case the surrounding states all decide it‘s 1968 again, they‘re the Warsaw Pact, and you‘re Czechoslovakia.

Nevilledog

(55,176 posts)
9. I try.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jul 2022

I figure if I'm posting something because I want them to read it, I should make sure they can read it.....lol

SamKnause

(14,951 posts)
11. And I did read it.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jul 2022

What has happened and is happening in this country is sickening and frightening.

We have never been that beacon on the hill, but we are fast approaching cesspool status.

LisaL

(47,731 posts)
15. It's easy for us to think that, but when a doctor is potentially facing a long prison sentence,
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:05 PM
Jul 2022

it's a whole another story.

milestogo

(23,249 posts)
26. It doesn't say, but I think a University Hospital
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jul 2022

would do its best to get her transferred to MN or IL if they were worried about legal issues. Its ridiculous that they have to think of that.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
33. Wisconsinites should have the right to know.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jul 2022

Likely one connected to a religious institution. Especially in small towns.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
35. I sure hope so. Even St Mary's in Madison would refuse all together.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

It’s scarier if it was UW.

agingdem

(8,994 posts)
12. before Roe v Wade
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jul 2022

when I was 22 years old, I was pregnant and bleeding..I was miscarrying..my OB advised a "termination" but Texas was a no abortion state..so after a few phone calls and scraping together what little money I had, I got on a bus and rode 11 hours to New Mexico,sitting on blood soaked towel ...I was met by a Planned Parenthood volunteer and driven to a doctor's office where I had an abortion...and two transfusions...

I'm 74 years old and I'm living in a fucking memory time warp..

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
31. And just to think thatI used to chuckle over the fact that at age 23 I had a D&C for a "home alone"
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jul 2022

midnight "spontaneous abortion" of a wanted pregnancy on Tuesday morning and a tonsillectomy on Thursday morning. My doctor, at the time Chief of Staff at his affiliated hospital, had recommended the tonsillectomy, which I at first refused, and he wasn't quite sure on examination that I was PG though the hormonal test was evidently +positive. Didn't have a DIY home version then, and I had a very irregular cycle.

I am so sorry, agingdem, for that traumatic life-threatening experience. I'm just as furious about overturning the set and proved overturn of RvW!

moniss

(9,183 posts)
32. I am also
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jul 2022

old enough to well remember the pre-Roe era. People much younger than us have no idea the repression that is coming and what life will be like. I remember even after Griswold that many single women would still have to doctor shop to get a prescription for the Pill. For those who don't know why I used an uppercase P you don't know how huge it was in changing society and it was common at the time for articles to use the uppercase P. I remember media still continuing to block open discussion, ads etc. for reproductive healthcare.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
43. For sure, I'll never know, but my doctor who was very Catholic,
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jul 2022

would not prescribe the Pill to me because I was a smoker. I tend to thank him today for what might have been that professional refusal, because I was friends in the late 70s with a young woman who was twice in the same day seen in the ER with severe stomach pain and sent home -- it wasn't even appendicitis...she developed a blood clot (yes, she was a smoker) and lost three quarters of her dead intestines in an emergency surgery several days later. She had to get congressional intervention to get very expensive IV nutrition during what passed for her long recovery.

 

womanofthehills

(11,040 posts)
34. Same here - but at the time unfortunately I had just temporarily moved from NM to NC
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

Ended up in a Catholic Hospital in Greensboro. I was bleeding, baby not viable but “we can do nothing” -until blood was coming out of me like a faucet on full blast. Almost bleed to death. If I had left the hospital, I would not be here today.

Turbineguy

(40,247 posts)
16. Sue republicans for medical malpractice.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jul 2022

Once it starts costing money, they pay attention.

Don't go the high road. They don't care about the pain and suffering of others.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
21. How is this not medical malpractice? IDGAF what laws a state has in place, this is not medical care!
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jul 2022

Where is the AMA? Not that they have much authority but they could at least be raising a rucus.

I kinda wish hospital accreditation in America was done by an actual gov't agency rather than an unlimited number of private corporations.

milestogo

(23,249 posts)
23. Its not malpractice if it endangers the life of a pregnant woman, who by nature
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

has no rights.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
38. +1 Women are mere vessels in the service of the state.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jul 2022

Their life and freedom are inconsequential to that service.

Racygrandma

(211 posts)
24. When I was young, I used to think "bad things will never happen to me"
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jul 2022

Boy was I wrong. I know people who do not want kids for a lot of reasons. Some have a lot of serious mental illness in their family. Some were exposed to agent orange and are fearful. Some have genetic conditions of all sorts and are fearful. I remember going to a steak restaurant, the place used to care for people with severe mental and physical disabilities. Turned into a restaurant. There was an old couple there eating with a person who had to be 40, in a wheelchair making spastic movements. It sure looked like this poor old couple had been taking care of this person their whole life. I hope no one is insulted by this post, but it was tragic.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
42. In my naiveity, I thought something similar about my future...
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jul 2022

Warm sunshiny life...until the black clouds rolled in on growing familial RW fundamentalist BS. To think your loved ones weren't ever so, instead living solely under a facade of duty, never charity (love), but full of trauma and ignorance leading to misogyny, homophobia, and selective greed. All that's left is me now to mull the consequences and pity for the last player, that "fierce mama," my sibling, who might yet be part of your couple at the steakhouse restaurant and sadness for the full life my bro might have had, and my disabled niece, who either cannot or has not been taught to even greet her grieving auntie in a civil social manner. Yes, tragic, but perhaps gratitude for what is...is best!

CaptainTruth

(8,284 posts)
27. That is torture, period.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:37 PM
Jul 2022

Torture of innocent Americans by the government.

Anyone who votes for the politicians pushing this, supports torture, period.

I'm done giving them a pass.

wnylib

(26,635 posts)
28. 100 years ago, my grandmother died
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jul 2022

of post partum bleeding after giving birth to my mother. So my mother never knew her own mother and I never knew my grandmother. When she died, she left behind my mother (a preemie in an incubator), 6 other children, and a grieving husband and other relatives.

Medicine to stop the hemorrhage was not available then. Today it is. It is unconscionable that we are going backwards in maternal care.

(Obviously, my preemie mother survived. She lived to be 90.)

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
41. +100 what a sad story. To think the GOP will force this
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jul 2022

outcome on families in this modern world is both disgusting and horrific.
Thank you for sharing.

niyad

(134,478 posts)
36. May all these woman-haters rot in their hell, after suffering every single minute of the torment,
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jul 2022

pain and anguish they cause for everyone.

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