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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,725 posts)
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:12 PM Jul 2022

Pal Recalls How Ivana Trump Struggled in Her Final Days

Ivana Trump couldn’t walk and struggled to leave her house in the weeks that preceded her death, a close friend said Friday.

Trump, the 73-year-old ex-wife of Donald Trump, was found dead Thursday afternoon at the bottom of the staircase of her Manhattan home.

Zach Erdem, who declined an interview but confirmed previous comments to the New York Post, said Trump had a hip issue that limited her ability to walk. He added that the former model “was feeling bad” the last time he spoke to her two weeks ago.

“She said she was having pain in her leg,” he told the paper. ”She couldn’t get out of her house.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pal-recalls-how-ivana-trump-struggled-in-her-final-days/ar-AAZCVNo

She couldn't afford any assistance? Is her ex that cheap?

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Pal Recalls How Ivana Trump Struggled in Her Final Days (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 OP
And why was she going up or down the stairs in that condition? LisaL Jul 2022 #1
If she was that feeble, where in the hell were her useless kids Peacetrain Jul 2022 #2
She had some sort of medical assistant. LisaL Jul 2022 #5
There is something just not right about the whole thing... Peacetrain Jul 2022 #7
It's a mob thing to kill a family member to keep someone from snitching Arazi Jul 2022 #19
That may just be in movies. The mob here didn't go after leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #25
Chair lifts are reasonably priced if pwb Jul 2022 #3
She had a four story home in Manhattan. former9thward Jul 2022 #20
Sounds like there should be a home elevator in there somewhere Hekate Jul 2022 #28
The Trump family couldn't afford to have her taken to a doctor dalton99a Jul 2022 #4
People have pride. Don't ask for help. Tetrachloride Jul 2022 #6
+1 n/t Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #15
I read she was in high heels when she fell. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #8
vanity and our culture cause women to do some really stupid and self-destructive things. Kali Jul 2022 #18
Yes I thought that could be the explanation. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #23
It was a four story apartment. Had to have had a lift. vanlassie Jul 2022 #9
Her children weren't there to help her through this struggle. blm Jul 2022 #10
WHERE WERE HER CHILDREN? NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2022 #11
"Is the ex that cheap?" Ummmm the woman was worth over 10 million. Thtwudbeme Jul 2022 #12
Lol, that should blow up a lot of contrived grievance. Hortensis Jul 2022 #16
I follow this cool little Vermont group on FB- they posted a photo of her from 1970 Thtwudbeme Jul 2022 #22
Lol. Of course agree, including choosing err "generous" out of the range Hortensis Jul 2022 #31
I hate the Trump's, but RazzleCat Jul 2022 #13
I hear you Hekate Jul 2022 #29
Do her kids have the same attitude about disability bronxiteforever Jul 2022 #14
I will never ask my children for help or to take care of me Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #17
that can be an admirable attitude but maybe they might WANT to help and be with you... Kali Jul 2022 #21
True, and I'd help my own parents despite their objections n/t Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #24
The stairs moniss Jul 2022 #26
. Ptah Jul 2022 #27
Thirty years after the end of a fifteen year marriage - Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #30
Thirty years after the end of a fifteen year marriage - Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #32

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
1. And why was she going up or down the stairs in that condition?
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jul 2022

Clearly someone with such limited ability to walk shouldn't be going up or down the staircase. For someone supposedly with means, you'd think the apartment would have an elevator.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
2. If she was that feeble, where in the hell were her useless kids
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jul 2022

You would think they would have someone stay with her if she was so incapacitated, that family is just so bizarre..

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
5. She had some sort of medical assistant.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jul 2022

There are photos of her going around with an assistant. But apparently she was still left alone to climb the stairs on the day (or night?) she supposedly fell.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
7. There is something just not right about the whole thing...
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jul 2022

Not saying that useless family killed her.. (I know that one has been going around, because they are all so close to being called in for depositions)..but something is not right..

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
19. It's a mob thing to kill a family member to keep someone from snitching
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jul 2022

Just sayin’

leftyladyfrommo

(20,005 posts)
25. That may just be in movies. The mob here didn't go after
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jul 2022

families. Anybody else was fine.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
20. She had a four story home in Manhattan.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jul 2022

She could have afforded a chair lift if she wanted one.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
8. I read she was in high heels when she fell.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

Usually women with serious leg pain and mobility issues would never dream of wearing heels.

As others are saying, she could have had a chair lift for the stairs, moved to a one level home, had a paid assistant to help her. She had more financial resources than most of America.

The story doesn't make sense.

Kali

(56,829 posts)
18. vanity and our culture cause women to do some really stupid and self-destructive things.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jul 2022

men too for that matter. people are strange and asking for help is like taking poison for some.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
23. Yes I thought that could be the explanation.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jul 2022

Vanity, and fear of looking old or weak.

blm

(114,658 posts)
10. Her children weren't there to help her through this struggle.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jul 2022

Shame on them. A mom should be able to rely on her children when she faces health issues.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
12. "Is the ex that cheap?" Ummmm the woman was worth over 10 million.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jul 2022

She divorced that fuckwit 32 years ago...their kids are grown...and she was a multi-millionaire in her own right.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Lol, that should blow up a lot of contrived grievance.
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jul 2022

But, those inclined can just shift grievance to her for being wealthy.

RIP, Ivana. Who married the fuckwit, supported his politics, and never got rid of his name.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
22. I follow this cool little Vermont group on FB- they posted a photo of her from 1970
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jul 2022

when she was working as a ski instructor.

I was sitting there looking at it- she looked so normal, young and healthy...and reading the posts of the other ski instructors who worked with and liked her...and thinking:

"Jesus...WTF?" How did she go from that healthy woman to marrying that fuckwit from the 9th Circle of Hell?

I am going to assume that she kept the last name because it was the same as her children's- god rest their souls they sold to the devil- but I digress.

Oh well, I never met her- so it's hard to judge her.

But, I damn sure know that she could have afforded a live in helper. At the bare minimum she could have called that vapid silly twit of a daughter and asked her and that vapid silly twit she is married to and asked them to hire someone to help her. There was no need to call her fuckhead of an ex-husband- that useless fuck would have just texted Ivanka anyway.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Lol. Of course agree, including choosing err "generous" out of the range
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jul 2022

of possibilities, including the reason for keeping the name.

She's of independent means, to put it mildly. Some sources estimate her wealth at $100M, which seems entirely possible if she handled her substantial divorce settlement and other self-made incomes better than The Donald over the intervening 30 years. That was a period of enormous wealth growth. Incredibly silly to imagine her anything but very empowered.

That doesn't preclude believing from her own interviews and behaviors that she would have become a trumpist in this century if she'd married a plumbing contractor from Fresno, CA in the last one. To our shock and horror, 70M American voters are like that.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
13. I hate the Trump's, but
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jul 2022

My mom had mobility issues in a two story house with no full bath or bed on the first story. When my father died she refused to have an aide while she sold the house, she also refused to let any of us stay with her, it was a pride thing.

Next pride issue, she hated the walker, thought it made her look old and feeble, so would she use it, NOPE, she went to the movies with her cane, and you guessed it, fell down and broke her hip. Of course that meant more hospital time and a wheel chair, now let's be honest if she would not use a walker do ya think she would submit to a chair, again nope. So out comes the walker for only around the house, and again, don't you try and help her. Other items she would not use, motorized carts at markets, again said it made her look helpless, when asked how she gets around at them said a shopping cart works like a walker.

The only aide she ever hired was in late stage cancer, and yes she could have afforded one prior, but again, she was just too dam stubborn. Again any of us would have stayed with her, and at the very end we did, but she absolutely never wanted anyones help, she always wanted to be independent. My SO said that her attitude is what most likely keep her alive so long, she just refused to become a stuck at home disabled person.

All this to say, even people who can afford help may refuse it because it hurts their pride and self image.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
17. I will never ask my children for help or to take care of me
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jul 2022

They have their own lives to live and at some point might have their own children and families to take care of.

I will move into a nursing home before I subject my children to taking care of me. I’ve spent enough time in a hospital setting that the idea of a nursing home doesn’t scare me at all.

I chose to have kids, they didn’t choose to have parents.

Kali

(56,829 posts)
21. that can be an admirable attitude but maybe they might WANT to help and be with you...
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jul 2022


my Mom was the same...after life as an excellent homemaker she was looking forward to assisted care. unfortunately she died before she could actually enjoy it.

but, having taken care of a few family members at the end of life, I have to say it CAN be a special time, beyond the hard work involved. it isn't always just a horrible burden.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
26. The stairs
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jul 2022

may have had nothing to do with her "injuries". If she was already on the first floor when her "injuries" happened and then she was moved to the bottom of the stairs to make it look as though she fell. I completely agree that I doubt a woman with severe leg/hip pain is going to be in heels. I wouldn't trust the NYPD on anything. We likely will never know the truth. We will be told a story and told to move on.

Ms. Toad

(38,640 posts)
30. Thirty years after the end of a fifteen year marriage -
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jul 2022

And you expect the ex to be providing support?

Not to mention that Trump was one of one of four ex-husbands.

Ms. Toad

(38,640 posts)
32. Thirty years after the end of a fifteen year marriage -
Sat Jul 16, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jul 2022

And you expect the ex to be providing support?

Not to mention that Trump was one of one of four ex-husbands.

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