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Nevilledog

(55,079 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:28 PM Jul 2022

Trump Tells Team He Needs to be President Again to Save Himself from Criminal Probes



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EXCLUSIVE: Trump is telling his team he wants to be president again ... in part to escape criminal prosecution. “‘Some very corrupt’ people want to ‘put me in jail,’” he’s told aides.

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Trump Tells Team He Needs to be President Again to Save Himself from Criminal Probes
When Donald Trump formally declares he's running for president in 2024, he’ll also be running away from legal troubles and criminal charges
5:24 PM · Jul 17, 2022


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-2024-criminal-probes-jan6-1384379/

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When Donald Trump formally declares his 2024 candidacy, he won’t just be running for another term in the White House. He’ll be running away from legal troubles, possible criminal charges, and even the specter of prison time.

In recent months, Trump has made clear to associates that the legal protections of occupying the Oval Office are front-of-mind for him, four people with knowledge of the situation tell Rolling Stone.

Trump has “spoken about how when you are the president of the United States, it is tough for politically motivated prosecutors to ‘get to you,” says one of the sources, who has discussed the issue with Trump this summer. “He says when [not if] he is president again, a new Republican administration will put a stop to the [Justice Department] investigation that he views as the Biden administration working to hit him with criminal charges — or even put him and his people in prison.”

Presidential immunity and picking his own attorney general aren’t Trump’s only reasons for running again. And as he works on another run, Trump is in a tug-of-war with leaders and operatives of his own party about when to announce, according to multiple people with knowledge of the matter.

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Trump Tells Team He Needs to be President Again to Save Himself from Criminal Probes (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2022 OP
when are they going to start using the word delusional? cuz this is delusional. mopinko Jul 2022 #1
Once a whole bunch of his close sycophantic "best people" who worked on Justice matters. Jul 2022 #38
Your post reminds me that we now have a new word for what trump's famous for by now. calimary Jul 2022 #49
I understand why he wants to be President BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #2
Oh right! The people who want him in jail are the CORRUPT ones FakeNoose Jul 2022 #3
Republicans: Every accusation is a confession /nt localroger Jul 2022 #8
Seems like it Rebl2 Jul 2022 #17
Bwah!! Never saw this Colbert clip. electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #10
LOL Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #30
Lock him up samplegirl Jul 2022 #34
... Lucinda Jul 2022 #4
Some very honest people want to put your corrupt treasonous ass in jail. CentralMass Jul 2022 #5
PRISON elleng Jul 2022 #6
If he wanted to save himself from criminal probes EnergizedLib Jul 2022 #7
Actually, the crimes were committed to keep him in office. He had nothing to lose. Native Jul 2022 #24
Looks like another sign of P's Total Cha Jul 2022 #9
Man. Woman. Camera. Handcuffs. Prison. electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #11
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TeamProg Jul 2022 #15
Aww, thanks ☺️ electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #18
Lol Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #31
Ty electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #40
When is Garland going to recognize how big of a threat this guy is? Marius25 Jul 2022 #12
Ditto!!!! SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #57
As has been said, someone who attempted to overthrow the government disqualifies them Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #13
well that's not going to work lol Takket Jul 2022 #14
The punch lines are now writing the jokes.. n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #16
Remember back when people were saying if he achieved a second term... NullTuples Jul 2022 #19
There is not statute of limitations on Treason Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #21
Judgement Day Approaches..... ashredux Jul 2022 #20
His new campaign slogan then is... Javaman Jul 2022 #22
Well THAT ought to be the TOP STORY for the next month! dchill Jul 2022 #23
This sounds like a great time to wait while Garland does whatever it is he's doing. Orrex Jul 2022 #25
Lol nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2022 #48
I know that this won't happen, but maybe Biden can declare that an insurrection is underway, and ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #58
Lock this sack of shit up Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #26
He and his spawn... tosh Jul 2022 #27
👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #29
TickTock, Buster Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #28
Looks like he is setting the stage for his next coup attempt. wnylib Jul 2022 #32
After most of his sycophantic henchmen end up in jail ... Justice matters. Jul 2022 #39
Unmitigated gall of these people. They wave it in your face and I hope like hell flying_wahini Jul 2022 #33
Well, this is different jmowreader Jul 2022 #35
Dear shit for brains... MiniMe Jul 2022 #36
He's been watching cable news and learned something. Septua Jul 2022 #37
Something a criminal would say. sarcasmo Jul 2022 #41
Good luck finding a willing VP candidate... Justice matters. Jul 2022 #42
Did he say the quiet part out loud again? sakabatou Jul 2022 #43
It's fascinating how he can tell the truth that actually incriminates him most directly, msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #44
All he has to do is add is "witch hunt" to the end of any admission. Nevilledog Jul 2022 #47
Right? every single time. n/t msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #60
This Thursday preview.... JuJuChen Jul 2022 #45
2016: Lock Her Up / 2024 : Don't Lock Me Up. tinrobot Jul 2022 #46
That is the only thing he has left to save his sorry self. slater71 Jul 2022 #50
I've never had the feeling that Trump really wanted to be President Jarqui Jul 2022 #51
Lock his fat dimply orange ass up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #52
Has Hell just frozen over? Trump is telling the truth! Martin68 Jul 2022 #53
The Office of The President of The Untied States... Snackshack Jul 2022 #54
From MAGA to Vote for me so I can stay out of jail. Oh and send me your paycheck. Hassler Jul 2022 #55
By definition doesn't that make the campaign part of the obstruction? bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #56
When Trump says "very corrupt people" he means people who want to actually enforce the law. tclambert Jul 2022 #59

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
1. when are they going to start using the word delusional? cuz this is delusional.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:34 PM
Jul 2022

put it in the fucking headline. wake the fuck up.

Justice matters.

(9,786 posts)
38. Once a whole bunch of his close sycophantic "best people" who worked on
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 11:19 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

his campaigns and in the WH are all doing time in the slammer for criming to please him in a one-way "loyalty" relationship, nobody will want to work for him!

Good luck finding a VP candidate...

Unless he/she has suicidal tendencies...

calimary

(90,017 posts)
49. Your post reminds me that we now have a new word for what trump's famous for by now.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jul 2022

“Criming.” The infinitive would be “to crime.” It’s now a thing. And a special distinction in trumpworld. A hallmark.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
2. I understand why he wants to be President
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jul 2022

I fail to see why anyone else would want him In the White House.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
3. Oh right! The people who want him in jail are the CORRUPT ones
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jul 2022


Sounds like an admission of guilt to me. Lock. Him. Up.

EnergizedLib

(3,037 posts)
7. If he wanted to save himself from criminal probes
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jul 2022

Perhaps he shouldn’t have committed crimes?

Native

(7,359 posts)
24. Actually, the crimes were committed to keep him in office. He had nothing to lose.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:42 PM
Jul 2022

He knew he needed to remain in office to avoid prosecution for a shit ton of criming. Previous articles had timelines that showed how he'd skate if he could drag it out another 4 years (statute of limitations).

Cha

(319,067 posts)
9. Looks like another sign of P's Total
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:18 PM
Jul 2022
Melt DOWN.. like calling the staffer in frenzied Sweating Desperation.. just guessing about the flop sweat.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
11. Man. Woman. Camera. Handcuffs. Prison.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jul 2022

Ghads I hate this man with the heat of 10,000 Suns!


Luckily I have many things to do and 🥰 enjoy to distract from that hatred. 👍👍
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
12. When is Garland going to recognize how big of a threat this guy is?
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:38 PM
Jul 2022

Arrest him already.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
13. As has been said, someone who attempted to overthrow the government disqualifies them
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:52 PM
Jul 2022

As a candidate for the office of president.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
14. well that's not going to work lol
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jul 2022

If he's going to be indicated it will be long before the next election, so that's not going to save him.......

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
19. Remember back when people were saying if he achieved a second term...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jul 2022

...that the statute of limitations would run out on his crimes?

He is correct. Sort of.

That clock has run out on the first four of his crimes that were considered to have ample evidence for prosecution.

The "sort of" comes in because while a 1973 memo did say that a sitting President couldn't be prosecuted for crimes, it also said that once impeachment proceedings had concluded - guilty or not, and regardless of what the Senate did next - said President was then completely vulnerable to criminal investigation and prosecution.

Trump was impeached twice. And he was treated with kid gloves in part based on that memo. Yet the other half of that equation was apparently never read by Congress or the DoJ.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
21. There is not statute of limitations on Treason
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jul 2022

Trump levied war against the United States.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
25. This sounds like a great time to wait while Garland does whatever it is he's doing.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:45 PM
Jul 2022

Cue the scolding cheerleaders in three...

Two...

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
58. I know that this won't happen, but maybe Biden can declare that an insurrection is underway, and ...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 07:12 PM
Jul 2022

arrest all tRUMP-related thugs that enabled the first insurrection that failed barely. These people are dangerous and think that they are above the law.

I hope Garland knows this, and sends some strong signals to the tRUMP world reminding them that the rule of law is still in effect, that the Constitution still applies, that many more millions are on the side of law and order. Don't let the orange anus run again, don't let him ruin this great Country because of his desire to escape justice which he so richly deserves.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
26. Lock this sack of shit up
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jul 2022

ASAP. Violent Treasonous Traitors and Coup Plotters need life sentences in maximum security prisons.

tosh

(4,453 posts)
27. He and his spawn...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jul 2022

should flee the country ASAP.

As long as it becomes a permanent exile, it works for me.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
32. Looks like he is setting the stage for his next coup attempt.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:54 PM
Jul 2022

He will say that he is running for 2024 and that all charges against him are political, an attempt by Biden and the liberals to steal another term from him.

Then he can call on his followers to take to the streets to fight for democracy. His price for calling them off be a demand that all charges against him will be dropped.

To put pressure on DOJ and Congress, the street terrorism will be especially cruel.

So, I am not Nostradamus and I could be wrong. But something like this prediction is very possible given Trump's past behavior, personality and character traits, and his ties with Putin.

Justice matters.

(9,786 posts)
39. After most of his sycophantic henchmen end up in jail ...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 11:27 PM
Jul 2022

the "Cohen" way, under the bus, nobody will want to work for him!

Good luck finding a willing VP candidate...

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
33. Unmitigated gall of these people. They wave it in your face and I hope like hell
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:54 PM
Jul 2022

Trump goes to prison. Come on DOJ.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
35. Well, this is different
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 11:01 PM
Jul 2022

If you asked most people who want to be president why they want to be president, they generally answer with a variation on "I want to make my country better."

Ask Ex-President Massengill the same thing, and his answer is "I don't want to go to prison for the crimes I committed the first time I was president."

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
36. Dear shit for brains...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 11:06 PM
Jul 2022

This isn't all about you. I know you think it is, but it is about the United States of America. If you were that worried about being prosecuted, you shouldn't have done those illegal things like trying to overthrow the government.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
37. He's been watching cable news and learned something.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 11:13 PM
Jul 2022

I've been listening to cable news. Yeah, prosecuting a presidential candidate would be yet another, first (?) for a prosecutor to consider. Thing is, Garland knows Trump is talking about running to avoid prosecution, isn't politically motivated and preaches "no one is above the law."

Garland knows without reservation, Trump is a clear and present danger to the country. And the Fulton county DA has no fear in indicting Trump.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
44. It's fascinating how he can tell the truth that actually incriminates him most directly,
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 10:30 AM
Jul 2022

it's sort of like the "I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue" and people will still vote for him.

Or anything he's said about his Moscow Real Estate plans and love for Putin. etc etc etc etc..

He is a sociopath, for sure..but his proclivities to straight out admit damning motives certainly takes a special kind of sociopath I think.

Wonder what pscyo-analysts have to say about this particular aspect of behavior.

Nevilledog

(55,079 posts)
47. All he has to do is add is "witch hunt" to the end of any admission.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jul 2022

You notice they don't spend any time denying the meat of the allegations.

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
51. I've never had the feeling that Trump really wanted to be President
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jul 2022

He did so for financial reasons.
Now, he wants the job now for criminal avoidance reasons.

Why people accept and support him is beyond me.

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
54. The Office of The President of The Untied States...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:06 PM
Jul 2022

Should not be used as get out of jail card. The last time he treated the Presidency as his personal bank account and while he allowed over 1 million Americans to die.

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
59. When Trump says "very corrupt people" he means people who want to actually enforce the law.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jul 2022
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