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The world is on fire and everyone is worried about gas prices lol (Original Post) wildman76 Jul 2022 OP
The traitor media doesn't report anything. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #1
This is exactly why I'm such a relentless doomsayer on climate change Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #2
Individual acts can create change wildman76 Jul 2022 #5
No, they can't. former9thward Jul 2022 #8
There are no ACTS ... unless they create BILLIONS LESS PEOPLE ON EARTH ... that is gonna do shit Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2022 #11
They can increase your chances of successfully adapting Kaleva Jul 2022 #17
only if your name is Joe Manchin DBoon Jul 2022 #18
Same with me. Climate change is real. Kaleva Jul 2022 #19
Nah, many are concerned with Jen and Ben. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #3
Lol absolutely 👍 wildman76 Jul 2022 #4
Price of gas controls everything robodruid1 Jul 2022 #6
We control everything all we have to do is stick together wildman76 Jul 2022 #7
We do not have a great track record on that. robodruid1 Jul 2022 #10
more fake heat G_j Jul 2022 #9
I worry about gas prices. I worry about climate change. Torchlight Jul 2022 #12
$3.98 gal today, a month ago, $4.99. Meadowoak Jul 2022 #13
Where? ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #20
Central KY. Meadowoak Jul 2022 #21
Aha! ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #23
My reply when folks bitch about gas prices maxrandb Jul 2022 #14
Totally agree wildman76 Jul 2022 #16
With my IRA down 20% and inflation up 9% I'm not feeling very wealthy. MichMan Jul 2022 #22
If only BBB could be passed with more wind and solar power, and charging stations across the US... AntiFascist Jul 2022 #15
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. This is exactly why I'm such a relentless doomsayer on climate change
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jul 2022

'The Market' cannot fix the problem of 5B people across 180+ countries being hopelessly addicted to cheap energy.

The ENTIRE economy is based on fossil fuel availability.

No government has the power to correct this problem.

We're fucked.

Well, I'll probably be dead, but the proverbial 'children and grand-children' are fucked.

As soon as you cut supply of fossil fuels by any means/for any reason ... too many people are going to complain. 'The Earth' will never, ever get the level of 'buy-in' she needs from human beings. We want, we need, we depend on ... that energy. We WILL suck it all from the ground, and destroy our climate.

This is why we'll never meet any aliens, either. Because this will happen on every World.

It's baked into the Universe's cake.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
8. No, they can't.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jul 2022

Individual acts compared to the size of the world's economies are so small and insignificant it almost can't be measured. Poster Hugh is correct.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. There are no ACTS ... unless they create BILLIONS LESS PEOPLE ON EARTH ... that is gonna do shit
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:54 PM
Jul 2022

I'm almost amused by the people who maintain there is any other 'solution' (at least, one that is known at this time).

Let alone one based on 'individual acts'.

Unless those acts are 'having zero children' and 'dying soon'.

And they're undertaken by billions of people.

Those are literally the solutions before us now.

Cause we waited WAAAAAAAAY the fuck too long to act. And we still aren't even doing so now.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

DBoon

(24,824 posts)
18. only if your name is Joe Manchin
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jul 2022

Individual acts by him would create change. Unfortunately, he chooses fossil fuel money over the future of the planet.

Kaleva

(40,281 posts)
19. Same with me. Climate change is real.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jul 2022

But people go about their lives like there's nothing to worry about. They give lip service but their lack of action suggests they are deniers.

Torchlight

(6,514 posts)
12. I worry about gas prices. I worry about climate change.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jul 2022

There's a lot to worry about in the here and now, but I'm certainly in no position to taunt others in regards to the uncertainties and misgivings in their own lives.

Sometimes I speak of one, other times I speak of the other. Still other times, I speak of neither at the expense of a further worry. I think we often (and incorrectly) attribute apathy to a particular contextual silence.

ProfessorGAC

(76,141 posts)
20. Where?
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jul 2022

We've only seen it fall from $5.599 to $4.919.
You saw 25%. We saw 11% here in NE Illinois.
What area are you seeing those decreases?

maxrandb

(17,285 posts)
14. My reply when folks bitch about gas prices
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

"Thank God President Biden's economy is so effing strong I can afford to pay a little more for freedom and democracy"

Retrumplicans want to take is back to a time when gas prices were so low ONLY THE 1% COULD AFFORD IT!

AntiFascist

(13,746 posts)
15. If only BBB could be passed with more wind and solar power, and charging stations across the US...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:21 PM
Jul 2022

but then there's Manchin....

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