Is It Still Impossible For The Text Messages

[WiVoter]

To be retrieved? I guess I just think (and hope) with modern technology, there must be a way. Something’s telling me those messages are the smoking gun. Looking for a sliver of hope here.

[Walleye]

1. Every agent on that assignment that day should be called in and made to testify

They may have deleted the texts but they all still know what they said. We’ll just see if they think it’s worth committing perjury

[3Hotdogs]

3. Law enforcement is able to get deleted texts from carriers after subpoenas are issued. So...

Subpoena the agents and ask them about the content of the deleted text messages.

Agent 1: "It was to my wife, asking her to buy a 6 pack of Colt 45 when she buys the wine for that night's party."

Agent 2: "It was to my mechanic about making sure he balanced all four tires."

Agent 3: " It was to remind my kid to do his homework."


THEN - when the messages are retrieved from the carriers, charge them with perjury.

[Walleye]

4. Exactly what should be done

[WiVoter]

8. Yes

[Phoenix61]

14. That's not true. No carrier saves the actual text for more than a week

Some save the details, to-from data etc for up to a year but those texts are long gone.

[lastlib]

2. Subpoena EVERY agent, clerk, and janitor.

Subpoena the director, his assistants, and THEIR assistants, down to the toilet-scrubbers if need be.

[OLDMDDEM]

5. Why wouldn't Twitter be able to do that?

[BSdetect]

6. Another major fuck up by criminals. Go after them.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Interview every relevant SS employee

And start seizing hard drives. There is clearly a coverup. They've made themselves part of the conspiracy and crime scene. No more kid gloves. Geez.

[WiVoter]

9. Agreed 100%

[tavernier]

10. Let's hope so, but on another note,

just how many smoking guns will it take? So far I think all of us could name at least five.

[WiVoter]

11. I Agree

1. Georgia tape of the orange one
demanding votes.
2. Video of him telling his zombies to
march to the Capitol.
3. Hours of observed inaction as our Capitol
was attacked.
4. Taking highly classified documents out of the
White House and bringing them to his
private residence.
5. Fake electors directed by Rump.
6. Trying to make a foreign country (Ukraine)
interfere in an election or lose
support from the US in their fight
against Putin.

I’m sure there are many more. These were off the top of my head.

[mackdaddy]

12. Glen Kirshner said that the SS was the go to agency for recovering data.

He said that when he was a prosecutor for the DC DOJ that the secret Service labs were the main place that they took devices to recover data over all the other agencies available to them.

That they were so inept to "loose" all of this data and can not recover any for theses devices, I have only one comment:
BULLSHIT!!

There should be some mass firings of everyone involved in this "transition".

[The Revolution]

13. When they say "text messages"

Do they mean SMS or are we talking about some other messaging app (like WhatsApp or Signal)?

SMS messages can maybe be retrieved from the carrier (though they may only store them a few days). But other apps often tout privacy as a feature, so the messages may be encrypted and are unlikely to be stored by the app developer.

Honestly, the secret service probably shouldn't be using SMS for security reasons. So if they are that would be kind of surprising.

[Amishman]

15. I've been assuming the issue is encryption

The messages themselves should be easily retrievable from any number of intermediaries, but assuming they were encrypted the only place they would be retrievable in a useable form would be an endpoint.