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babylonsister

(172,746 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:40 AM Jul 2022

The January 6 Hearings Are Wounding Trump



https://politicalwire.com/2022/07/20/the-january-6-hearings-are-wounding-trump/

The January 6 Hearings Are Wounding Trump
July 20, 2022 at 7:00 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


“The conventional wisdom about the Jan. 6 committee hearings was that no single revelation was going to change Republican minds about Donald Trump,” Politico reports.

“What happened instead, a slow drip of negative coverage, may be just as damaging to the former president. Six weeks into the committee’s public hearing schedule, an emerging consensus is forming in Republican Party circles — including in Trump’s orbit — that a significant portion of the rank-and-file may be tiring of the non-stop series of revelations about Trump.”

“The fatigue is evident in public polling and in focus groups that suggest growing Republican openness to an alternative presidential nominee in 2024.”
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The January 6 Hearings Are Wounding Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2022 OP
I am not sure this is great news. The Nazi DeSantis is even more dangerous than Trump RAB910 Jul 2022 #1
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #2
But I don't think he has birdographer Jul 2022 #5
Exactly. intheflow Jul 2022 #6
Does DeSatan Traildogbob Jul 2022 #13
Desantis doesn't have the charisma jcgoldie Jul 2022 #12
I agree with you and with the above. Aristus Jul 2022 #16
Does he ever smile? Jimbo S Jul 2022 #21
Trump never smiles, either. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #31
Agreed. I believe Trump has a "cult of personality" CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #26
So True Rebl2 Jul 2022 #10
He's smarter but doesn't have the charisma TFG has. Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #15
If Trump runs, my hope is that Trump & DeathSantis have an ugly primary fight... CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #27
DeSatan belongs in prison too NEOBuckeye Jul 2022 #25
Agreed... Biden could clearly beat Trump again budkin Jul 2022 #28
They can't hide the fact... kentuck Jul 2022 #3
Trump is going down! fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #4
hoping tomorrow night deals another blow... bahboo Jul 2022 #7
Kinzinger all but said that after tomorrow's revelations tavernier Jul 2022 #9
However, I hear that zentrum Jul 2022 #8
Wounding Traildogbob Jul 2022 #11
We can only hope he dies of his wounds... Aristus Jul 2022 #14
Death by a thousand cuts? That works! eom Maeve Jul 2022 #17
It probably won't take that many. Aristus Jul 2022 #19
And such thin skin too... Maeve Jul 2022 #20
My concern is DeSantis will take his place as the Repug nominee and he is one f/u M/Fer. Fla Dem Jul 2022 #18
Good. If only RocRizzo55 Jul 2022 #22
This is why dragging out the hearings is a good idea. Novara Jul 2022 #23
fuck wounded. Dead, buried & surrounded arth salted and infused with sulphur, wolfbain and garlic. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #24
Problem being The Bopper Jul 2022 #29
But I want Trump to run again. cannabis_flower Jul 2022 #30
They should wound ALL Republicans, cuz anymore the whole party is in Trump's image. Beartracks Jul 2022 #32

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
1. I am not sure this is great news. The Nazi DeSantis is even more dangerous than Trump
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:53 AM
Jul 2022

he has all of Trump's anti-American hatreds and criminality without the baggage

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
5. But I don't think he has
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jul 2022

whatever it is that draws people to trump. I don't think his power has nearly the reach that a mob boss like trump does, so he is perhaps not as scary to wimps like Miss Lindsey and other sycophants who are terrified of anyone with that kind of power (would R's kill for him?). Could be wrong.

intheflow

(30,166 posts)
6. Exactly.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jul 2022

He doesn't have the fame and "glamour" of TFG. I mean, DeSantis doesn't even have his own reality show! He'll be seen by some of Trump's base as just another life-long politician no matter how much crazy he spouts.

Traildogbob

(13,009 posts)
13. Does DeSatan
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jul 2022

Give permission and partake in Willy Nilly pussy grabbing and thinks it’s completely fine with his GOD to wanna fuck your own daughter. That’s a big draw for most MAGA’s.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
12. Desantis doesn't have the charisma
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jul 2022

As batshit crazy as it is to categorize Trump's ignorance and narcissism as some sort of charisma, thats the appeal he has for 40% of the country who can't quit him. They don't care if he stands for what they do or for anything at all they just like that he flips to bird to everyone they hate with a smile.

Aristus

(72,126 posts)
16. I agree with you and with the above.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jul 2022

Desantis is relatively competent and not a buffoon. The incompetent buffoons who worship at TFG's altar won't go for that.

Jimbo S

(3,043 posts)
21. Does he ever smile?
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jul 2022

I heard one commentator ask yesterday. No one is going to vote for someone who comes across as a grouch.

However, like other said here, DeSantis is smarter. He knows which culture war issues to embrace and which ones to shy away.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
31. Trump never smiles, either.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jul 2022

His moronic base eats that stuff up -- they think he's just so macho and manly ...

CaptainTruth

(8,195 posts)
26. Agreed. I believe Trump has a "cult of personality"
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jul 2022

I hate saying that because it implies Trump has personality, but I think the phrase is accurate in the sense that it describes the phenomenon. His cult flocks to him because he's "TRUMP", with an (entirely fake) larger-than-life persona that's he's spent decades cultivating.

DeSantis doesn't have that. Now, that only applies to the Trump cult. DeSantis may be more palatable to non-cultists, I really don't know.

Rebl2

(17,700 posts)
10. So True
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jul 2022

I saw on morning jo some poll (I wish I could remember who did the poll) among Republicans, they still favored tfg over other republicans that might run. I think it was like 53% for tfg.

Phoenix61

(18,823 posts)
15. He's smarter but doesn't have the charisma TFG has.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:40 AM
Jul 2022

He doesn’t have the national appeal. Fingers crossed, he losses his re-election which will seriously dent his political career.

CaptainTruth

(8,195 posts)
27. If Trump runs, my hope is that Trump & DeathSantis have an ugly primary fight...
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jul 2022

...if the votes can be split, with Trump cultists refusing to vote for DeathSantis & vice-versa, it would certainly help us.

NEOBuckeye

(2,922 posts)
25. DeSatan belongs in prison too
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 04:12 PM
Jul 2022

He’s also a narcissistic criminal. What’s in his favor is that he is more intelligent and calculating than Trump. What doesn’t work in his favor is that he lacks Trump’s MAGAt
magnetism.

budkin

(6,849 posts)
28. Agreed... Biden could clearly beat Trump again
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jul 2022

But DeSantis is going to be extremely tough.

tavernier

(14,433 posts)
9. Kinzinger all but said that after tomorrow's revelations
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:23 AM
Jul 2022

the streets will be filled with crowds bearing pitchforks and lit torches. All I could picture was the old Dracula movie where the peasants in Transylvania march to the Castle on the mountain top to kill the vampire.

Scrounging through my stuff for silver bullets and a garlic wreath.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
8. However, I hear that
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:18 AM
Jul 2022

.....they don't even know what's in the hearings. Aren't paying attention. Faux news is not covering. He's still a threat, IMO. Over and above Trumpism itself.

Traildogbob

(13,009 posts)
11. Wounding
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jul 2022

Fuck that, I want it to liquify his skull like AR’s do children’s heads. And with lots of collateral damage to all close to him. Metaphorically of course. Orange mist, with hair plugs.

Aristus

(72,126 posts)
19. It probably won't take that many.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jul 2022

Captain Bone Spurs is such a sniveling wimp, one would think it wouldn't take more than a few dozen.

Fla Dem

(27,615 posts)
18. My concern is DeSantis will take his place as the Repug nominee and he is one f/u M/Fer.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jul 2022

While some moderate Rep wouldn't vote for Trump, they may see DeSantis as a good candidate. A Harvard Law School and Yale University grad, he's a JAG officer in the Navy, served in Iraq, and is still in the Naval Reserve. This guy is no dummy and he's more devious and cutthroat than Trump. He's worshipped by the Florida Republicans.

DeSantis wants to control everything and has overruled his Republican state reps in drawing up a more Republican favorable redistricting map.


Florida Supreme Court lets DeSantis-backed congressional map stand
By Joseph Ax
June 2, 2022

June 2 (Reuters) - The Florida Supreme Court on Thursday declined to block the state's new congressional map drawn by Governor Ron DeSantis' administration, likely ensuring the plan will remain in effect for November's midterm elections and giving Republicans a boost in their quest to win control of Congress.

The plan has been challenged by several voting and civil rights groups as unlawful because it dismantles a majority-Black district in north Florida held by Democratic U.S. Representative Al Lawson. The groups have also argued that the map violates state constitutional provisions intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, in which district lines are manipulated to benefit a political party.

The new map gives Republicans the advantage in 20 of the state's 28 congressional districts, four more seats than the party currently occupies.

In a surprise move, DeSantis created his own map, vetoed two less aggressive maps that the Republican-controlled legislature passed and called lawmakers into a special session to vote on his proposal. The governor has argued that Lawson's district, which connects Black communities some 200 miles (320 km) apart, is a racial gerrymander that violates federal law.

Republicans need to flip five Democratic seats in the U.S. House of Representatives to win a majority, which would allow them to stymie much of Democratic President Joe Biden's agenda. Overall, Republicans have gained approximately three seats nationally solely due to redistricting, according to the Cook Political Report.

More....
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/florida-supreme-court-lets-desantis-backed-congressional-map-stand-2022-06-02/


I also cannot stand his voice.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
23. This is why dragging out the hearings is a good idea.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jul 2022

I don't know if they're doing it purposefully, but it's having an effect that can't be ignored. And they're leaving the door open to more, if warranted. Request: closer to the midterms, please.

If America sees how fucking corrupt the entire GOP is, then DeSatan doesn't even have a chance. He's just another version of the orange fuckstick. My hope is that the CORRUPTION turns people away as much as the actual criminal acts will.

The Dems need to tie this albatross to the entire GOP.

Evolve Dammit

(21,766 posts)
24. fuck wounded. Dead, buried & surrounded arth salted and infused with sulphur, wolfbain and garlic.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jul 2022

And lay a cross on top. That will ensure he never comes out. He is no Christian and it would burn. OK I've seen too many movies

The Bopper

(311 posts)
29. Problem being
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jul 2022

He normalizes the crazy cake side of the party. Even if he’s gone, the nutbaggery of the party has been released and we’ll be in a competition between sane and nutbag. Problem being nutbags not got anything better to do.

cannabis_flower

(3,931 posts)
30. But I want Trump to run again.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 05:19 PM
Jul 2022

And I want every single Trumper who gets his support tied to that ball and chain.

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