I guess Garland will not do anything about Trump until after the elections.

[slater71]

He says that they can`t prosecute Trump because it would appear that the election was being interfered with. I guess he does not think that the republicans would not give a damn about an election if it were them prosecuting Biden. It`s bullshit like this that will get this country its first dictator. Again it's the democrats not getting down in the dirt with the republicans to destroy them. We will never defeat them because we have allowed them to defeat us at everything. Maybe it is time to get some Josh Hawley and Jim Jordan-type people in office on our side. At some point, we have to go scorched earth or we are done. Just saying. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ag-merrick-garland-memo-suggests-no-federal-indictment-of-donald-trump-before-november-election/ar-AAZLfK3?li=BBnb7Kz

[bigtree]

1. he didn't say that.

...nothing in there says Garland can't approve an investigation, won't approve one, or hasn't approved an investigation.

DOJ: Trump isn't immune from prosecution — even if he runs again
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jan6-donald-trump-justice-department-investigation-merrick-garland-1385490/

DOJ Says Probe of Trump’s Jan. 6 Role Will Continue If He Declares 2024 Run
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-19/trump-declaring-for-president-won-t-stop-doj-jan-6-probe

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[C_U_L8R]

2. Every criminal should run for office

Seems getting-out-of-out-jail is a free-for-all. When did Justice become so feckless?

[inthewind21]

24. When?

It's been that way all along.

[hlthe2b]

3. Just stop it. He did not say that. He said such investigations & indictments would need top level

approvals (i.e., he and Lisa Monaco). His Deputy (Monaco), in fact just echoed that Trump is not "safe" from investigation whether he announces now or not.

[kentuck]

4. I think you may be right.

Republicans do not want Trump to announce he is running before the mid-terms. I don't think that is a concern of Garland's. I think he wants the Committee to finish with their work and present it to the American people. They can do what the DOJ cannot do, in that respect.

After the election, then all the cards are on the table.

[Bluethroughu]

6. Wasn't that what trump and his republican sycophants did?

Interfere in an election and the transfer of power. They made it political, everyone not involved in the insurrection only voted for their favored candidate.

Prison time for accountability for the attack on our democracy is the only way forward, without lawless anachary.

Merrick Garland stands between anarchy and democracy, which side will he choose? Time will tell.

The world is watching.

[sop]

7. Apparently, the DOJ's "Election Sensitivities" memo didn't apply to Hillary in 2016.

FBI Director Comey sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28, reopening the investigation into her "missing emails." The letter, which was immediately made public, stated the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into Clinton's private email server used while she was SoS. The reopening of this investigation just before the 2016 election cut Hillary's lead in the polls in half, affecting her position in the Electoral College.

[bigtree]

9. didn't apply to these actual charges filed, either.

Link to tweet

[Chainfire]

8. After the midterms it will be too close to the Presidential election

[bigtree]

12. apparently not

Link to tweet

[Chainfire]

17. Keep you eyes on the center ring

Fake electors are a sideshow. It is a smoke screen to cover up the non-prosecution of the principle performer. It is a small piece of red meat thrown to keep the lions busy for the moment.

We have seen mass arrests of the snaggle-toothed dopes that followed their directions to go after Pence and stop the Congress, but we haven't seen crap about the general. We have gotten all excited about a misdemeanor prosecution of a third tier co-conspirator. Apparently it doesn't take much to keep our hopes up.

I don't trust Garland further than I could push a pyramid.

[bigtree]

32. that's not my point, although the 'sideshow' stuff is fit for a fiction novel

...the point is that the DOJ is investigating and prosecuting political figures, including candidates, right in front of our eyes for anyone with the interest to look before spreading nonsense about the DOJ not prosecuting candidates for office.

[BlueIdaho]

34. Trump is gaming the political system.

And the DOJ is on to him. Nothing in Garland’s May memo precludes Trump’s prosecution.

[Chainfire]

35. The DOJ is prosecuting at the periphery, the easy pickings, and avoiding, like the plague, going

after the top members of the conspiracy to overthrow the government. If it is not a diversion, then at least it is the squandering of resources. The fake electors are not a grave danger to our country. The guys who broke the windows of the capitol, are criminals, but not a danger to Democracy. The Trump junta is a clear threat to our system of governing, and therein lies the difference.

It is my opinion that Garland is not going to prosecute Trump for any felony, ever. I believe that everything we are seeing is theater. If DJT comes to a bad end it will be choking on a burger in his golden bed.

Time will tell.

[triron]

37. Have to agree with that.

[bigtree]

41. that's not what they're doing, not how prosecutions work

...DOJ already has at least two dozen Proud Boy and Oath Keeper arrests on charges of sedition.

Like the congressional committee, they are pursuing evidence linking the WH and Trump to that coordinated attack by the two groups on the Capitol. As you can read in the link I provided, that effort began in 2021 and is proceeding in actual grand juries and court appearances of principals in Trump's orbit.

Many of those already arrested for sedition have agreed to cooperate with the grand juries (where DOJ gets testimony and depositions), and that evidence obtained will be used to further advance the case against the White House.

I get that you can't see past your cynicism of the process. It's not there for you to look at and unravel at this point. Grand juries are, by law, mostly secret, and disclosures are limited to those with direct involvement in the proceedings. That's where we sometimes get hints of activity. Those arrests, subpoenas, and court appearance are all we have to fathom about what the DOJ is actually investigating.

But it's clear that Trump is at the head of the conspiracy, and that's what these subpoenas, arrests, and court appearances from the several dozen people reported as witnesses, principals, or perps tell us about where this prosecution effort is heading.

[Chainfire]

42. Well, I truly hope that someone, soon, shows me how prosecutions work.

When it comes to the leaders of the insurrection.

[slater71]

39. You are right.

It seems like McConnell telling Obama that he can`t seat a supreme court pick because it is too close to an election.

[MineralMan]

10. He said nothing of the kind.

Please stop doing this. Read the thread, and you'll see.

[eShirl]

11. Is Trump running for something in 2022?

I don't think he is.

[Chainfire]

18. The better question is: Is Trump running for anything in 2020

that might warrant the delay of a possibly prejudicial inquiry into his crimes?

[brooklynite]

13. I'm actually embarrassed...

...at how many people apparently don't read stories in detail, even when the document is provided to them. And apparently they don't read other threads that have clearly debunked this "analysis".

[malaise]

14. Huh!

Whatever

[Rhonda Santis]

15. Garland needs to be replaced!

I'm sorry, but he needs to go! This was an attempt to overthrow our democracy, and he's treating it like a jaywalker! Everyone who was involved should be charged with treason and sedition, let the courts sort out the rest!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. LOL,

another who thinks they know better than AG Garland.

Welcome to DU, enjoy your stay.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

23. Cute username too... nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. We got us a live one. nt

[chowder66]

43. +1

[MineralMan]

28. Nonsense!

[chowder66]

44. Yes! With Gerrick Marland!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. THIS

[chowder66]

46. : )

[llashram]

47. I just hope you are wrong

Garland's DOJ is just being careful, I believe. They will act at the proper time, not letting impatience as a guiding element of their case(s)cause the department to make legal mistakes that RW can use to their advantage.

[Kid Berwyn]

16. Ask James Comey about the DoJ Catch-22

The leadership at Department of Justice doesn’t want to indict a potential presidential candidate too close to an election to keep from unduly influencing the electorate and the election’s outcome.

Thus, candidates who are alleged to have committed a crime would be protected from being publicly accused as a criminal before having their day in court.

This protects the innocent and the guilty — except, of course, when the candidate is a Democrat.

[Justice matters.]

26. Looked from the other side of the lens, not doing anything DOES influence the electorate...

... AND the election outcome.

And the result CAN be destructive (re: 2016)...

Damned if you do, but damned if you don't.

There should be no mixing of Justice with politics.

And SHOWING your taxes before getting on ballots should be codified into law.

[fightforfreedom]

19. It does not matter. Garland is following no time line.

Everybody wants the investigation to end now and everybody indicted, including myself, it's not realistic. This investigation is only a little over a year old. That's nothing when it comes to our legal system.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Was your internet down the past 48 hours?

That’s the only plausible explanation for how you could have possibly missed the past two days discussion of Garland’s memo, and the clarity with which the memo outlines exactly the opposite of the opinion expressed in your OP.

The memo in no way prohibits prosecution of Trump.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

21. Oh look, another bash AG Garland on this memo that you apparently didn't even

bother to read and comprehend.

How many fucking threads are going to be started with this bullshit?

Read the fucking memo and get back to us.

[mcar]

27. He didn't say that

Shame on Rachel Maddow, who I've long respected, for pushing this nonsense.

[H2O Man]

29. He didn't say that.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

30. You should probably delete this false bullshit thread.

Just sayin'

[RussBLib]

31. your OP is BS

worthy of Trashing this Thread

[OneGrassRoot]

33. Stumbled upon this lawyer who went to law school with AG Garland:

(I should say she claims to have attended law school with Garland.)

I know many of you hate twitter threads (even though you can read them without being a member or being logged in) but for those who are interested. It's not a tweet with a running thread, it's comments interspersed in another thread.

"I’m speaking as a lawyer who did criminal defense and who went to law school with Merrick."

Link to tweet

Re: the Garland memo:

"This is also an adroit move on Garland’s part, IMO. He knows objections will be made by all GOP candidates that their prosecutions are motivated purely by partisanship, so he’s strapped Barr’s memo on like armor...it’s a way to bolster the DOJ’s prosecutorial charges against claims of partisanship, plus, speaking as someone who went to law school with Merrick, it’s a very lawyerly move. It’s also a double dog dare, a “Come at ME, bros,” to shield his staff"

emptywheel and terikanefield are also good to follow.

[Zeitghost]

36. You need to shorten the sentence

and end it at Trump.

[Lettuce Be]

40. When DOJ is ready, they will move forward and not one minute sooner

This takes time. Lots of time. They are still prosecuting WWII war criminals for crying out loud.