How long before Bannon just assumes the fetal position at counsel's table?

[Nevilledog]

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Bannon is rocking back and forth in his chair throughout this testimony. Not taking notes. Not speaking much with his attorney. Little expression

Some of the jurors appear to be dutifully taking notes… As Jan 6 Cmte counsel continues to answer questions about subpoena

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Big courtroom. Jurors are seated about 30 feet away from Bannon…. The prosecutor (and podium) stand between jury and Bannon defense table. (Bannon again is dressed in many layers of black clothes) Video screens show copies of subpoena documents and emails.
7:36 AM · Jul 20, 2022

[sop]

1. Welcome back to reality, Steve.

[Beachnutt]

2. How long before he leans over to his attorney

and whispers "Is it too late for a plea bargain" ?
I'll sing like a canary...

[Nevilledog]

4. I've actually had that happen.

Prosecutors find it hilarious.

[PortTack]

3. He's rocking? Probably going into the DTs! Seriously

[Nevilledog]

6. He probably wears all the layers to hide the liquor feeding tube.

[blm]

8. Lolol

[2naSalit]

14. LOL

[Baitball Blogger]

15. No, he wears layers of clothing in case he has

To flee and he doesn’t have time to pack.

[hatrack]

37. Another possiblity:

Since soap is scarce and expensive, just slap on another layer of clothes to stanch the stench from the Tainted Canned Hell-ham.

[Chainfire]

5. I doubt that Bannon is shaking in his boots.

Regardless of "evidence" there is always jury nullification. Even if convicted, he is facing misdemeanor charges. A fair sentence for a first time conviction would not involve any jail time. Bannon is not going to face any penalty that he can not live with. If the judge were to break bad and sentence him to 60 days in jail, it would just give the man a well deserved rest, and possibly a bath and change of clothes.

Of course, I don't want a "fair sentence." I want the judge to make an example of the traitorous bastard.

[Beachnutt]

10. Question,

If he is found guilty does he have to answer the subpoena and go testify to j6 committee?

[Walleye]

22. I don't think so. It's meant as a punishment. They don't need his testimony anyway

[Ocelot II]

26. No, he's being prosecuted for ignoring the subpoena; that is, to punish past conduct,

not to enforce compliance. I doubt the committee needs or wants his testimony, since he'd just lie and bloviate and turn it into a circus.

[lame54]

50. Subpeona him again

[Walleye]

20. I thought it had a minimum jail time of 30 days

[Evolve Dammit]

33. and a max of 2 years. If convicted of both counts. Each 30 day min, one year max, sans appeal.

[Walleye]

34. Do you think the judge will grant bail while he's appealing? Not much chance he will win An appeal

[Evolve Dammit]

36. good question. Trump-appointed.

[irisblue]

39. Do we have guillotines in the US? That as an example would clean up a whole lotta mess

[Chainfire]

45. No, but we do have wood chippers. ;)

[CharleyDog]

44. how is this different from Susan McDougal who was in prison for 18+ months for refusing to

testify about Whitewater/Clinton impeachment?

[Chainfire]

7. How long is his trial estimated to last?

If a case like his was in my county court, it would be settled, along with another half dozen cases, before the noon break.

I haven't been paying attention to this one. What is his defense?

[Nevilledog]

9. His defense is it's a political witch hunt, but he's really not allowed to argue that.

Hell , his lawyer said he had no defense at the evidentiary hearing after he lost all his motions.



This trial would take about an hour in my state. He wouldn't even get a jury.

[2naSalit]

16. A waste of time assembling a jury for this charade.

[Beachnutt]

19. Guilty or not will he still have to go testify

to the j6 committee ?

[Nevilledog]

23. Totally separate issue.

This is not the type of contempt proceeding where the judge can compel him to cooperate.

[Beachnutt]

24. If he is issued a new subpoena and defies it

will he be held in contempt again and another trial ?
They should issue another one the day the trial ends....

[Nevilledog]

25. Yes. Unless DOJ tries to compel him as enforcement, this will happen again.

[jaxexpat]

43. Why wasn't compelling him to testify the foremost issue?

Aside from the actual value of his testimony, which is probably nothing, does the law not require obeyance to the subpoena at some point? Could this jerk just walk? (I'm considering a 30-day contempt sentence a walk, even multiple 30-day sentences are still a walk.) I always thought the system took a very dim view of refusing to show for a summons.

I'm having a hard time convincing myself that the "law" is going to wrangle this mess in and corral these guys, making an example of them etc. in a fashion which respects the seriousness of the violations and works toward ensuring these things can't happen again. If it's not, then we can expect violence on a national scale to become the norm for our election day celebrations.

They'll have to build a whole new "non-partisan agency" just for election issues. The Bureau of Election Certifications Authority, Public Result Acceptance or We Bust Heads. BECAPRA-WBH, not a catchy acronym.

[Nevilledog]

48. If I had to guess? Decorum. Dems still think the other side will follow the rules.

Bannon's a nightmare, but he's at the top. He wasn't going to give up anything useful, even under oath.

[fightforfreedom]

11. His trial should be over in a matter of days.

This is a clear cut case and he has no defense. The jury should convict in a short period of time.

[Nevilledog]

13. This is not the normal contempt trial.

It's only taking this long because of the players.

[2naSalit]

17. +1

[Evolve Dammit]

35. He has a podcast. I suppose he is notorious for undermining democracy though...

[Beachnutt]

12. Now they're saying he thought the deadline was in flux,

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/steve-bannon-trial-contempt-congress-07-20-22/index.html

[2naSalit]

18. Every childish excuse...

They pull out their asses with be presented here.

[Nevilledog]

21. Jury gonna laugh at that one.

The deadlines were clear and Committee letters told him he was gonna be in trouble if he didn't comply.

In my experience, juries don't like to be treated like they're stupid.

But also in my experience, juries do the strangest things.

[Nevilledog]

27. This 😂

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Bannon defense: he thought he was so central, executive privilege applied to him, even though he had not worked in the govt for three years
also Bannon defense: why did the Jan6 committed subpoena Bannon?
he was a nobody

Tierney Sneed
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Bannon attorney Evan Corcoran has been cross examining the House committee staffer serving as governor witness. He tried to nail her down on who specifically decided that Oct 7/14 would be the subpoena deadlines Bannon faced https://cnn.com/politics/live-news/steve-bannon-trial-contempt-congress-07-20-22/index.html…
9:15 AM · Jul 20, 2022

Who knew there was special executive privilege for coup plotters?

[chowder66]

28. I want to see the courtroom artists rendition of him rocking back and forth please!

[Nevilledog]

30. Only one I found

[chowder66]

31. LOL!!!

[EndlessWire]

46. This is just so funny!

There is another picture of him walking in the first day, but it's really Pigpen. OMG, the best laugh! This guy deserves this, after all the evil broadcasting he did, such as recommending that people get hung. And, Trump let him attend NSC meetings as a member. I shudder at that.

[rsdsharp]

29. "Bannon is rocking back and forth in his chair throughout this testimony."

Well, he’s not Jewish, so he’s not shuckling while davening. Maybe he thinks the jury is going to start throwing their shoes 👞.

[housecat]

32. Hopefully he won't be out on bail waiting for the appeal

[Novara]

38. Some of you have forgotten he offered to testify ...

... last week, wasn't it? I suppose he thought he could wriggle out of this trial if he offered to testify but the J6 committee doesn't need his testimony now.

I'm surprised the trial isn't over with already, especially because he doesn't have a defense.

[EndlessWire]

47. I guess he could wait until the jury goes out

and then make a plea deal. Doesn't mean that he would testify to anything useful. I think he could say, "Fifth," and fulfill the deal. But, I don't know.

[Ford_Prefect]

40. Trump pardoned Bannon so this is NOT a first offense situation. He was found guilty of a felony

so I'm guessing the judge will not be inclined to attach a short sentence to the (I assume) conviction.

[Nevilledog]

41. It's a trump judge.

Not sure if a judge can consider prior offenses that were pardoned. My guess is no. It's not like he doesn't know about it though.


Judges decide the sentence and then come up with the rationale.

[Ocelot II]

51. This particular Trump judge doesn't seem disposed to be merciful toward Bannon.

And he'll follow the federal sentencing guidelines.

[Nevilledog]

52. Bannon inspires bipartisan disgust. Guy is never not an asshole.

[Ford_Prefect]

53. The prosecutor will include the previous record when advising on sentencing.

The Pardon doesn't expunge his record in any way. The mechanics of his record would apply IMO. Considering his personal activities and the severity of the previous crime I do not expect a mild sentence. A number of trump nominees have proven to be more thoughtful judges than I expected.

Most judges regardless of political leanings do not like it when defendants or lawyers play silly buggers in THEIR courtroom. Bannon and his lawyer both have presented very foolish and rude defenses of Bannon's delaying. That won't play well when the time comes for the bench to consider the case for sentencing.

[dlk]

42. Not soon enough...

Reality is about to come crashing through his delusions of grandeur.

[EndlessWire]

49. He's not going to like jail.

He thinks he can do it, I guess, but it is terribly unpleasant and very, very noisy. Totally not worth this fuss, and falling on his sword for Trump won't get him anything.