Hear me out...fetal personhood

[Nevilledog]

So, if they want to say a fetus is a person:

1. Could you kill it in self-defense?
2. If the mother died could the fetus be charged with killing the mother?
3. During the census do pregnant people count as 2?
4. Can movie theaters make you buy 2 tickets?
5. Does calculation for legal drinking age start at conception?
6. Do you get to claim the fetus as a dependent for taxes? How about for welfare purposes?
7. If you conceive on US soil does that make the baby a US citizen thus making deportation of said fetus against the law?
8. HOV lanes?


Please, add your own.

[MiniMe]

1. Somebody in Virginia is already arguing that she is pregnant and should be able to drive HOV

Not sure how that will turn out, I know my opinion on that.

[Nevilledog]

2. Think it was TX and she was ticketed. I guess we'll see if she pursues it.

[MiniMe]

3. I thought it was Texas and somebody on DU

told me I was wrong, it was Virginia. Oh well. Wherever it was, I don't think she should be able to claim that.

[Nevilledog]

4. It was TX. Here's the post I did with link to article.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216904118

[Pobeka]

5. No. Don't promote the falsehood of fetal personhood in any way, shape or form.

You only give them support for their false premise, and they cling to it even harder.

[Nevilledog]

7. Georgia's fetal personhood law was ruled constitutional by the 11th Circuit today. It's here.

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Heidi Li Feldman
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Jul 20, 2022
Read the Georgia statute the 11th Circuit just declared constitutional. It is a sweeping elevation of fetuses to the status of “natural person.” 1/ https://legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20192020/187013…
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The Georgia law makes any abortion presumptively a homicide, creates a tort action for wrongful death whenever abortion is performed when there is a grouping of fetal cells that are initiating some electrical activity (referred to in statute as a heartbeat”.) 2/
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12:54 PM · Jul 20, 2022




Heidi Li Feldman
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Jul 20, 2022
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The Georgia law requires child support to be paid to a fetus - though the amount is carefully limited so as not require too much financial obligation to the person hosting the fetus. 3/
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The Georgia law treats fetuses as dependents for purposes of income tax. 4/
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1:00 PM · Jul 20, 2022

These people, and courts, accept electrical impulses from a clump of cells as being a "heartbeat".
Ridiculing these insane beliefs is just that...ridiculing.

[Pobeka]

9. It's still a falsehood. Driving us back to the dark ages.

Legislatures pass stupid laws all the time. Courts make bad decisions all the time. We have to hold our ground for truth in the court of public opinion.

[Nevilledog]

10. You don't actually believe I'm supporting it? This post is about how ridiculous it is.

A clump of cells is nothing more than a clump of cells.

[Pobeka]

12. No I don't believe you are supporting it.

But by playing the "what can we do with the fetal personhood" game, it inadvertently adds credence to the fetal personhood premise.

[chowder66]

6. Can I get personhood status for my fibroid?

[Nevilledog]

8. Hmmmm... Maybe if you name it

[chowder66]

11. Chowder Jr

[Nevilledog]

16. Okay, but not very original....lol

[chowder66]

17. : ) How about Fibroidtron! aka Fibby or the Roidster.

[Nevilledog]

18. Better!

Fibby has my vote.

[chowder66]

19. Fibby it is.

[Hugin]

13. If a fetus were a person it could be blown out of the airlock as an unticketed passenger.

A stow away. Walk the plank. Law of the high seas.

I don’t think they want to go against international law.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

14. We cannot presume to know the anxieties of the fetus until we interview enough of them.

[planetc]

15. Personally, I think a lot of people achieve personhood until they're thirty-two.