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Novara

(5,856 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 06:16 PM Jul 2022

This is what the J6 committee should do about the secret service scofflaws

Seize their phones. Have a techie look at their contact lists to determine when the information was added. If the date of their contacts is prior to the migration, that means they selectively migrated some data and either didn't migrate the other data or deleted it so it couldn't be migrated.

Then serve each one of them with a subpoena and ask them under oath who gave the order to delete texts and/or to not migrate texts from two specific dates. Remember, they have to follow the official records retention policy. Ask them how contacts managed to migrate to the new phones but texts didn't. Again, they need a tech expert to testify that contacts that were entered before the migration and which ended up migrating means they didn't migrate texts or they deleted them prior to the migration.

I am sure those texts disappeared because someone gave the order to delete them. I really doubt all of them decided to delete them on their own. If all of them are in the hot seat, what are the chances that at least one of them won't give up the person who gave this order? Would all of them take the blame and possibly go to prison to protect that person? I'm thinking maybe not.

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This is what the J6 committee should do about the secret service scofflaws (Original Post) Novara Jul 2022 OP
GeeBuss: I Hope They Don't 'DU' (n/t) wyn borkins Jul 2022 #1
Select committee issues statement raising concerns about the Secret Service's handling of texts LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #2
And now that your rant is over, some reality... brooklynite Jul 2022 #3
To determine the date that the contact was entered into the phone Novara Jul 2022 #4
1. i have several message programs installed, 2 of which are Tetrachloride Jul 2022 #5

brooklynite

(94,787 posts)
3. And now that your rant is over, some reality...
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jul 2022

First, nobody “deleted their texts”. It was a mass transition of equipment that had been previously scheduled. At most you’ bring in their IT guy.

Second, what would contact lists tell you? Do you imagine that Rudy or Eastman was contacting agents individually?

Novara

(5,856 posts)
4. To determine the date that the contact was entered into the phone
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jul 2022

If it was before the migration, that means they could have migrated all of their phone's data that was there prior to migration but they didn't. In other words, it wasn't an accident that those two days are missing. It was purposeful.

In simple terms: if already-existing data from the old phones was migrated to the new phones but not the texts, there needs to be a reason. And they should be subpoenaed and asked why.

Tetrachloride

(7,877 posts)
5. 1. i have several message programs installed, 2 of which are
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jul 2022

the most active
2. i have 4 current email addresses in daily use
3. every phone has multiple internal identification numbers

The Committee is likely hiring forensic people. Lots of hints not in any phone

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