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Raven123

(5,138 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 09:05 AM Jul 2022

One question I have about the Secret Service deletion debacle

Did anyone follow the law and the directive to preserve data?

Per their website:

“The Secret Service employs approximately 3,200 special agents, 1,300 Uniformed Division officers, and more than 2,000 other technical, professional and administrative support personnel.”

If it can be demonstrated that the deletion detail was the presidential security detail, it would be pretty damaging to any claim of simple incompetence.

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One question I have about the Secret Service deletion debacle (Original Post) Raven123 Jul 2022 OP
SS is said to have better and more data retrieval experts than the FBI does at Quantico. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #1
It would also indicate a national security risk at the apex of our government. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2022 #2
And both points you make... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #4
There is no chance this was an accident. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #3

Irish_Dem

(50,754 posts)
1. SS is said to have better and more data retrieval experts than the FBI does at Quantico.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jul 2022

The FBI asks for SS help in tough cases.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,684 posts)
2. It would also indicate a national security risk at the apex of our government.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jul 2022

If any agent has become so attached to TFG that he would delete information about 1/6 then he has demonstrated that he is subject to being corrupted. Tony Ornato accepted a plum political assignment from TFG and that should have raised suspicions across the board. I'm sure there are many foreign intelligence agencies who would view Ornato or any agent like him as low-hanging fruit.

This is expanding into a much bigger crisis than we thought. And the greatest danger is that the investigations are likely to be shut down following the midterms. And if the Secret Service side of this is not understood by that time the rot, and the risk, will continue.

2naSalit

(88,058 posts)
4. And both points you make...
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jul 2022

Are crucial facts that should be front and center from now on.

I worked for three federal agencies, not in the SES but even as a GS I was required to take FISSA (I think that's the acronym) training regularly which showed that I understood, most importantly, the laws and rules for retention of all documents and all
data from any and all devices issued and used. One agency was pretty anal about it for good reason.

These guys knew what they were doing and they most certainly were involved in the coup and much of the data is to found on burn phones which is also why they are balking at disclosure. They did that on purpose and it will be found out as long as we retain the majority in the House and Senate, because the Senate will be involved sooner or later.

The point that the investigations will end if we don't strengthen the majority in Congress is one to promote often.



onecaliberal

(33,448 posts)
3. There is no chance this was an accident.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 09:58 AM
Jul 2022

Records Retention Act is very clear. Those texts absolutely pertain to their work duties. They wouldn’t have been accidentally deleted by anyone doing an update. There would be at least 2 backups, one stored off site. There is NO WAY this was an accident.

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