****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 8, thread FOUR (8:00 pm EDT) ****

[Scrivener7]

Tonight's hearing is expected to focus on tfg's actions as the rioters attacked the Capitol. There will be outtakes from the message he recorded to his cult members on January 7. The expected witnesses are two former White House aides.

Here's the link to thread THREE: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216955423

[Lars39]

1. Thanks!

[crickets]

2. Matthews felt tfg's message from the Rose Garden was indefensible,

and that is when she decided to resign.

[spooky3]

12. She was really good at that point. Nt

[livetohike]

3. Ayer's said as soon as Trump's video asking them to

go home the crowd dispersed.

[Lasher]

170. The insurrectionists also noticed reinforcements had finally started to come in.

I'm sure that helped them decide it was time to leave.

[regnaD kciN]

4. Q-ANON SHAMAN ALERT!

[calimary]

167. I saw that and all I could think of was "GEEEZ, what a jerk."

[Marthe48]

5. TY Scrivener7

It is horrible to watch

[underpants]

36. Indeed

[housecat]

173. Easy to ID a trump text and one by a literate person

[BumRushDaShow]

6. Kinzinger read 45's last tweet

[livetohike]

7. Trump tweeted at 6:01 pm to remember this day forever.

He showed no remorse.

[DURHAM D]

8. I don't believe Trump actually wrote his text messages that day.

Who is the treasonous ahole who wrote those for him?

[crickets]

14. Good point. It was way too coherent and that is not his vocabulary level.

He had help at the very least.

[crickets]

9. Stephen Ayres points out that as soon as the Rose Garden message came out

most of the crowd acknowledged it was time to go home. Because tfg said so.

[elleng]

10. 'Mike Pence let me down.'

[livetohike]

11. Trump said to a White House employee that Mike Pence

let him down.

[Scrivener7]

15. After HE got 100 Capitol police injured, the Capitol trashed, and 5 people killed.

Evil, evil, evil, evil, evil.

[calimary]

168. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[spooky3]

13. Kinzinger and Luria are doing very well tonight. Nt

[nolabear]

16. They are. The behind the scenes work is stunning too.

[spooky3]

17. So true--and it has been for all the hearings. Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Kinzinger just listed off the insurrectionists in Congress!

[demtenjeep]

41. all the ones we knew

but the list was rather short

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Some like Cruz were finally being mentioned

[calimary]

169. Anybody got the whole list that was called out?

I was scribbling so fast I couldn't read my own handwriting.

Here's who I got:
Jim Jordan
Marsha Blackburn
Tommy Tuberville
(somebody whose name appears to start with "H" )
Lindsey Graham
Josh Hawley
Ted Cruz

Anybody know?

On edit -

I just looked up all the GOP senators and looks like it was Bill Hagerty of Tennessee. Jim Jordan was the lone Congressman. All the others were Senators.

[jimlup]

19. 7:02 Rudy wants ...

to discuss how to "delay" the hearing...

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Played clip of Ghouliani's attempts to pursuade the inurrectionist members in Congress

to delay the certification.

[crickets]

28. Rudy's calling the Electoral vote a "hearing" and asking them to "slow it down."

[BumRushDaShow]

35. I'm sure he "had a few"

[Lasher]

171. And Rudy didn't bother to mention the ongoing insurrection.

Go figure.

[elleng]

21. prez trmp morally responsible. Mcconnell.

There are a number of clips like this, from various repugs and we must make use of them.

[Marthe48]

22. Traitor had ghouliani keep trying

to stop the certification. Unbelievable.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Showed clips of Turtle and McCarthy condemning the violence

[IcyPeas]

24. wow. chip roy changed his tune

[crickets]

37. They all have. nt

[Scrivener7]

25. Anyone else finding that the behavior being revealed in this hearing is much more evil

than that shown by any of the other hearings? This is really truly evil. It's not stupid, it's not misguided. It's intentional, planned, shepherded to greater heights of violence and chaos.

I am even more sickened, and much more sickened, by his actions in this hearing than I have been before.

[livetohike]

34. The footage of Trump in the Rose Garden speech should

be shown over and over.

[MontanaMama]

26. Awwww. Kevin had a sad.

Fool.

[livetohike]

27. Congress certified the election results at 3:00 am n/t

[irisblue]

51. I wept watching & listening to it at 3 am

[crickets]

66. I was up too until it was finally over.

There was no way to sleep until Biden was declared the winner, no way to risk another 2000 election morning after.

[Tumbulu]

172. Me too, I was so impressed by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer

for getting it done.

But fumed at every single monster R who slowed it down with their “objections” which made it longer and more painful than necessary or imaginable.

[EnergizedLib]

29. Rudy is a sad joke

All he had to do was remain in private after 9/11, and he wouldn’t have obliterated his legacy.

[Scrivener7]

31. These effing R Congress people. Within a week they were calling the traitors tourists and

saying it was antifa.

Horrible, horrible people.

[SheltieLover]

164. Russian assets in congress need to be remanded to custody immediately

[edhopper]

32. McConnell said

he will vote for Trump in 2024.

POS

[crickets]

33. McConnell, McCarthy, Chip Roy going on about how awful and wrong the day was

on the night of the Electoral count. Funny how they've all changed their tune since.

[elleng]

38. Secy Scalia:

'Seek a meeting of the cabinet,' something 'constructive' to do.

[livetohike]

39. "Clown Car" working with Trump to overturn the election.

Rudy, et al.

[EnergizedLib]

40. They wanted to move on

After only a few weeks.

I don’t think so.

[catbyte]

43. No kidding.

Welcome to DU!

[EnergizedLib]

47. Thank you

[Marthe48]

44. How are we supposed to move on

I take patriotism and loyalty to the Contitution of the U.S. to heart.

[tenderfoot]

42. Not buying the Iranian thread that T**** supposedly thwarted.

Fuck this guy on the mike.

[Marthe48]

52. agree

He needs to stop supporting traitor. As long as he does, he is on the wrong side

[BumRushDaShow]

53. The "terrorists" had taken over the Capitol

That is how delusional they were and still are.

[crickets]

55. Agreed. This asshat is still waving his tfg flag wide and high. It's bizarre. nt

[Scrivener7]

45. Not impressed by this guy.

[nolabear]

46. A moment's chuckle: Clark Kent is trending.

He must be covering for The Daily Planet.

🤣🤣🤣

[Scrivener7]

50. Lol!

[BumRushDaShow]

62. ...

[Johnny2X2X]

49. Cowards

All of them. The entire GOP! Sold their souls and our Democracy.

[crickets]

54. Pottinger asked about how Jan 6 affected national security.

Pottinger talks about how a "contested election" was a factor and Jan 6 emboldened a narrative and perception that our government doesn't work and is in decline, emboldened adversaries. Allies were concerned about the health of our democracy.

He couldn't say it without repeating the Big Lie.

[Marthe48]

82. I think he should be put on suicide watch

looks worse and worse as he goes on.

How to wrap your head around following a traitor over the cliff and turn your back on all the beliefs you held.

[Scrivener7]

56. God, I cannot stand to look at his slimy mug.

Fucking giant infant.

[EnergizedLib]

57. Unreal

This raw footage.

What further evidence do we need he was complicit and the cause?

[Reader Rabbit]

58. My God, he's a child!

He cannot bring himself to say the election is over.

[livetohike]

59. I don't want to say the election is over. Trump

Comments while rehearsing speech.

[crickets]

77. It's unreal. He actually admits that he is unwilling to tell the truth.

"Yesterday is a hard word for me!" Good grief. He couldn't read the script without screwing up over and over because he was so unwilling to say it.

[IcyPeas]

60. Trump Bloopers

didn't all those years on The Apprentice teach him anything?

[livetohike]

69. He's really not good at anything he does. n/t

[durablend]

61. Head. Desk.

WTAF

[Johnny2X2X]

63. These are devastating to Trump

He is an idiot. Also he didn’t care at all, he’s jovial and only cares how he sounds.

[electric_blue68]

84. So disgusting no surprise but still...seeing it ugh

[Johnny2X2X]

88. I hope they replay them

Shows what a sociopath he is.

[electric_blue68]

165. Yup

[EnergizedLib]

64. Dang

That raw footage is everything.

[Xavier Breath]

65. "Yesterday is a hard word for me."

So are honesty, fidelity, maturity....

[nolabear]

67. This speech...JFC. He could not say it. He choked like a dog.

Apologies to dogs for that…

[wcmagumba]

68. Potty baby, it wasn't a "close" election...nt

[hatrack]

70. Ooh, deleted scenes from the blockbuster hit "Manbaby"!

Riveting stuff!!

[catbyte]

71. OMG, these outtakes.

Hey, pal, psssst...IT WASN'T A CLOSE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scrivener7]

72. NO Pottinger. This WAS NOT a close election. Not even a little close. Even in the witness chair.

[dflprincess]

85. Only in Trumpworld was it close

This clown is making me grind my teeth.

[underpants]

91. He's trying to save his options at think tanks.

[EnergizedLib]

73. Every time

He shows he wasn’t fit for the job and wasn’t big enough to rise up to the moment.

[BumRushDaShow]

74. This guy Pottinger is a brainwashed GOPer

[tenderfoot]

75. This guy is going on about the election in 1960 before he was born

[Scrivener7]

78. He's fond of his own voice.

[DURHAM D]

81. So true. He is boring.

However, he did do a shout out to Al Gore.

[crickets]

97. He sounds coached. He has a lot of articulate things to say,

makes all the right sounds through most of his testimony. Then every once in a while he slips and praises tfg or makes a "contested election" comment. The 1960 BS was just a really long "contested election" nonsense comment. He sounds great afterward talking about his oath, for a while, but the he talks too long and loses the point and any sense of conviction.

[livetohike]

76. I want Pottinger to shut up n/t.

[Scrivener7]

79. He's quite an ass.

[livetohike]

86. Exactly none of those close elections were anything like 2020. He

just likes to hear himself talk. 2020 wasn’t close.

[crickets]

99. +1

[tenderfoot]

83. He's a gasbag

Someone grab the cane and get him off the stage.

[Javaman]

80. Smarmy nt

[demtenjeep]

106. kingzinger

it knocking it out of the park

[underpants]

87. Trump can't read a TelePrompTer

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Playing audio clips of Kevin McCarthy when the discussion about the 25th Amendment

resolution had been introduced in the House.

[underpants]

95. Sec. Scalia wanting a Cabinet meeting has 25th written all over it.

[crickets]

102. I thought the same and thought we were going to hear about that

but the moment sailed by. We aren't hearing about it in any detail tonight. I'm surprised and a little disappointed.

[Scrivener7]

90. Video of McCarthy saying tfg should resign. What was it, a week later that McCarthy was

saying it was tourists touring the White House?

[EnergizedLib]

92. I tell you

The video don’t lie.

[calimary]

166. Just shows you what a two-faced coward McCarthy is.

[livetohike]

93. "Everything he (Trump) said about supporting law

enforcement was a lie.”

[sinkingfeeling]

103. He was correct because everything he has ever said was a lie.

[dweller]

94. "Who is that behind me ?"

Do you guys see who is behind me ? Is it the ghost of Steve Wilkes Booth? The ghost of Lee Harvey Waldo ??

Pisswig is insane



✌🏻

[FalloutShelter]

105. Psychotic

[sinkingfeeling]

96. Great exchange of texts about TFG not acknowledging death of Capitol Police Officer.

[3catwoman3]

98. "Yesterday is a hard word for me." Really?

How pathetic. So much for Mr. "I know words. I have the best words." Not so much, it seems.

And what the hell did that stupid statement even mean - "I know words." Not very many.

[livetohike]

100. Strong close by Kinzinger. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

101. Kinzinger giving what sound like his closing remarks

[Scrivener7]

104. Kinzinger is doing great with this. "Clear dereliction of duty."

[BumRushDaShow]

107. Luria doing her closing remarks

[elleng]

108. On October 29, 2021, Kinzinger announced that he will not seek reelection to Congress in 2022.

[Scrivener7]

115. Republicans won't vote for him. He doesn't have a soul characterized by stench-y rot.

They require stench-y rot from their politicians.

[crickets]

135. It's a shame.

I might disagree with his politics, but he's got the kind of integrity that is far too rare in Congress these days.

[EnergizedLib]

109. Please don't tell me

We could ever have a president that would make us nostalgic for this. I never thought I’d be nostalgic for W. Then this happened.

[Scrivener7]

110. Wow. This really is a great speech by Kinzinger.

[live love laugh]

111. YAAAaaaassszzz Kinzinger.

[Wednesdays]

113. Indeed!

[OneGrassRoot]

114. 👏👏👏👏👏 n/t

[crickets]

131. That was amazing. He really knocked it out of the park. nt

[MLAA]

112. Whoa Kissinger was on fire.

[electric_blue68]

142. Seriousy stern. Wtg

[electric_blue68]

116. "the 'Elephant' in the room". Heh How ironically apropo!

[Totally Tunsie]

117. Ketchup, meet Wall.

Kinzinger's summary was masterful, and I physically applauded at the point he was speaking of "dereliction of duty". Chump must have blown a gasket at that point. BOOM!

[3catwoman3]

118. Mr. Kinzinger is an educated man.

He knows the proper but seldom used pronunciation of "ideology."

[livetohike]

119. Luria "I never imagined that the enemy would be from within". Nice

close.

[BumRushDaShow]

120. Cheney now giving the administrative closing remarks

[ms liberty]

121. It's been a long time since I've wanted a cigarette this much...

Wow.

[crickets]

122. Kinzinger: tfg's conduct on Jan 6 was a "supreme violation of his oath of office

and a complete dereliction of his duty to our nation. It is a stain on our history, it is a dishonor of all of those who have sacrificed and died in service of our democracy."

[BumRushDaShow]

123. Chair Thompson now giving his closing remarks

Still pursing additional witnesses. Will reconvene in September to continue to lay out the facts.

[sinkingfeeling]

124. Thank you for running these threads,

[Scrivener7]

125. I can't wait till September for the next one!!!

[BootinUp]

126. "Yesterday is a hard word for me!"

Link to tweet

[Gore1FL]

163. I feel Paul McCartney might do better.

Yesterday
Is such a hard word to say.
Remove "election's over," too, I pray.
Must those that broke the law all pay?

[BumRushDaShow]

127. Cheney doing her own closing remarks

giving kudos to the witnesses for doing their duty.

Witnesses were not "political enemies" but worked for 45.

[crickets]

146. I like that she made a point of thanking all of the women who have bravely stepped up -- in contrast

to all of the 50, 60, and 70-year-old men hiding behind executive privilege. Ouch.

[H2O Man]

156. That was good.

In fact, really good.

[BumRushDaShow]

157. Yup

and mentioned the suffrage in 1918 and how that was also discussed in that very room (in the Cannon Building where this hearing was held).

Historical side note - Cannon Builing construction was completed in 1908 - https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/buildings-grounds/house-office-buildings/cannon

[crickets]

162. It gave me chills when she got to that point, especially in context of what has

happened with Roe. Then she kinda ruined it by quoting Maggie Thatcher. Ah, well.

Thanks for the link.

[MLAA]

128. The 50, 60, 70 year olds who hid behind executive privilege! Whoa!

[Lars39]

134. IKR!

[MLAA]

138. She nailed those cowardice mealy mouthed repugs.

[Lars39]

147. Sure did!

[livetohike]

129. Cheney "The case is a series of confessions from people

who have worked for Trump for years.”

[BumRushDaShow]

130. Cheney playing a Bannon audio clip

[Lars39]

132. "Those 50,60, 70 year old men hiding behind executive privilege."

Damn. Evisceration by Cheney.

[dweller]

133. Cheney " we owe a debt to

Cassidy, Sarah (not you Putz)




✌🏻

[DET]

136. HA!

Cheney closing with a clip of Brannon shooting off his big mouth, giving away the game early on. Smart on multiple levels.

[crickets]

150. +1 - Goes to intent. nt

[JuJuChen]

137. went a little off the rails but Liz bringing it home

[livetohike]

139. Trump is preying on his supporters patriotism. N/t

[Scrivener7]

140. Good line.

[Scrivener7]

141. Cheney: "Donald Trump made a purposeful choice to violate his oath of office."

[BumRushDaShow]

143. Cheney has concluded - ****ADJOURNED****

[Scrivener7]

144. Wow. That was the most harrowing one yet.

[BumRushDaShow]

155. Filled in all the "rumors" of what happened

with actual audio, video, and written material1!!

[livetohike]

145. Thanks for the threads Scrivener7! n/t

[blogslug]

148. Some parting music

[electric_blue68]

158. Yeah, popped up in my head Heh

[BumRushDaShow]

159. LOL or....

[Scrivener7]

149. Thank you to EVERYONE who participated in the threads. It is so good to witness this history

with all of you!

[crickets]

151. Thank you for thread wrangling tonight! nt

[Going to Canada]

153. Agree

Thank You for this amazing site! Brand new for me! Truth Out!

[Scrivener7]

154. Welcome!

[electric_blue68]

161. Welcome. What a night to drop in

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[electric_blue68]

160. Thank you, again.

[BumRushDaShow]

152. Thank you Scrivener7 for juggling the threads!

Another amazing hearing!!