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intrepidity

(8,595 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:29 AM Jul 2022

Anyone else concerned about the near total disappearance of the ocean's plankton?

I read a few days ago (via a link on DU, but don't have it handy; appreciate if any who do could please post) about a very recent Scottish study that found an astonishing depletion of the world's plankton--something like 90% or something.

The prediction was--albeit from the same group who was shocked by the finding, because it was occurring several decades earlier than even they had thought--that by 2050 (I think; may have even been 2030) ALL plankton would be depleated. Completely.

Do you have any.idea what this means?

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Anyone else concerned about the near total disappearance of the ocean's plankton? (Original Post) intrepidity Jul 2022 OP
It means we all die. ret5hd Jul 2022 #1
Yes, that could mean the end sakabatou Jul 2022 #5
Whales are concerned. Marcuse Jul 2022 #2
Yes. It's a nightmare. nt crickets Jul 2022 #3
Beware of bad science reporting: No, we haven't killed 90% of all plankton dalton99a Jul 2022 #4
Thank you intrepidity Jul 2022 #9
that's helpful to know NJCher Jul 2022 #10
Thanks for posting that. Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #11
Bad reporting does not minimize the crisis. Big Blue Marble Jul 2022 #12
Very concerned. Big Blue Marble Jul 2022 #6
this is why Biden should have declared NJCher Jul 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Gaugamela Jul 2022 #8
As it heats, water becomes more acidic. Justice matters. Jul 2022 #13
Definitely 😥 nt Raine Jul 2022 #14
I think it's safe to say at this point that the timeline for climate crisis is sped up anarch Jul 2022 #15
Yes. sinkingfeeling Jul 2022 #16

dalton99a

(95,286 posts)
4. Beware of bad science reporting: No, we haven't killed 90% of all plankton
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:32 AM
Jul 2022
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/no-the-oceans-are-not-empty-of-plankton/
Beware of bad science reporting: No, we haven’t killed 90% of all plankton [Updated]
A very misleading article on marine life has been getting a lot of attention.

Jonathan M. Gitlin - 7/21/2022, 8:06 AM

intrepidity

(8,595 posts)
9. Thank you
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:40 AM
Jul 2022

It still sounds dire, but not quite as bad.

Update 8:52 am EST, 7/21: Howard Dryden reached out to me to express his dismay at having been misquoted by the Sunday Post, which should have reported a "90% reduction in marine plankton in the Equatorial Atlantic, not the whole Atlantic."
......
The Continuous Plankton Survey has indeed cataloged a loss of plankton over the years—but nothing close to the 90 percent loss claimed by Dryden. "We have noticed long-term changes—northerly movements of plankton species as surface water warms, changes in seasonality in some taxa, invasives, etc.," Johns told Ars by email. "And we work with a wide group of scientists and governmental bodies, providing evidence for marine policy. As a group, we had an email discussion, and no one agreed with this report—and no one had heard of the guy (other than one person, and she was not complimentary at all)."

In addition to the small sample size, the preprint makes no mention of how or when the plankton samples were collected. "If those samples were taken during the day, in surface waters, there is likely lower numbers of zooplankton," Johns explained. "Also, [there is] no mention of what magnification [the researchers] were using. If you were using a low-power microscope, you would struggle to see the small stuff—in warm open ocean Atlantic waters, much of the zooplankton is pretty small, and they might have trouble picking them out."

NJCher

(43,530 posts)
10. that's helpful to know
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:41 AM
Jul 2022

but the article still notes that the oceans are in trouble, big trouble.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
11. Thanks for posting that.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:43 AM
Jul 2022

I read the article the OP refered to and honestly, my first thought was I would like to know more about their collection of data and sampling methods.

Big Blue Marble

(5,708 posts)
12. Bad reporting does not minimize the crisis.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:45 AM
Jul 2022

There is a serious ongoing depletion of plantain and all marine life. The author of the study
express his dismay of seeing amost no.sea life for 22 days in the equatorial Atlantic.
That is not normal.

It does not have to be 90% to be alarming. The loss of plantain diminishes much of the oxygen
we all need.

NJCher

(43,530 posts)
7. this is why Biden should have declared
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:38 AM
Jul 2022

a climate emergency.

But he didn't.

World governments need to sponsor a working committee of marine scientists (oceanographers) to determine a course of action. Then governments need to listen to them and put their recommendations into effect.

But do you see any of this going on?

I'll give it a little time but if it doesn't happen soon the poster upthread who says I guess we'll just die is right.

Response to intrepidity (Original post)

anarch

(6,536 posts)
15. I think it's safe to say at this point that the timeline for climate crisis is sped up
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 03:00 AM
Jul 2022

from the pace that scientific consensus had guessed at. It's later than we think.

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