a point about the ss msgs that i havent seen mentioned-

[mopinko]

i've mentioned it on a couple threads, and folks were surprised so-

i heard nicolle wallace, after the hearing, talking to a regular who also served in the w wh. ben something?
it was pointed out that every text, email, etc, from a wh device, is AUTOMATICALLY copied to the natl archives.
from that i assume-
for those msgs to even look like they're gone, that had.to.be.disabled.
since they are missing msgs from the 5th, that means the 4th latest.

like whoever told the guard to stand down, THAT is who should be the subject of the probe.
pretty sure any ole agent does not have that authority.
also pretty sure you have to sign your name to an order like that.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Know what I think, mopinko?

This is intermission for the J6 Commission. Time to start digesting and adding to the Fall Season of American Treason-ism.

Because the Organized Crime Party Boss can never be allowed to run again. At the very least, find this dictator wannabe unfit for another term.

[mopinko]

6. beat this drum til the 1st tuesday in nov.

[FakeNoose]

2. Maybe they were using burner phones that aren't connected to the archiving system

A burner phone is any old cheap phone that doesn't track people's calls because they aren't subscribe to a service like Verizon Wireless or T-Mobile or whatever. If those Secret Service guys who are involved did this - and it's only a few of them - it would be a sign of criminal intent.

It's a possibility, and I don't know if burner phones have been investigated yet.

[mopinko]

5. yup.

most likely explanation, and clear criminal intent.

[panader0]

14. My opinion as well. Wasn't there an incident of some tfg administration people using them already?

[2naSalit]

16. Yup...

Jarvanka and others.

[Phoenix61]

3. They aren't White House devices. nt

[mopinko]

4. anyone connected to the wh. ss detail, cabinet, anyone.

[Phoenix61]

9. You are mistaken.

https://www.archives.gov/files/guidance-on-presidential-records-from-the-national-archives-and-records-administration-2020.pdf

[mopinko]

10. um. can you post a snip?

[Phoenix61]

12. He's talking about the Presidential Records Act.

How the Presidential Records Act Affects the President, Vice President, and White House Staff During the Administration
The PRA applies to records created by components of the Executive Office of the President (EOP) that solely advise and assist the President. These components are not covered by the Federal Records Act. Even within the EOP, some components generate Federal records, while others generate Presidential records. Among the components of the Executive Office of the President that create Presidential records are:
 The White House Office
 The Office of the Vice President
 The Office of Policy Development
 The Council of Economic Advisors
 The National Security Council
 The President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
 The President’s Intelligence Oversight Board
 The National Economic Council
 The Office of Administration
Other EOP components generate Federal records that are governed by the Federal Records Act. Among the EOP offices that generate Federal records are:
 The Office of Management and Budget
 The Office of the United States Trade Representative
 The Council on Environmental Quality
 The Office of Science and Technology Policy
 The Office of National Drug Control Policy
2

NARA also works with those offices that create Federal records to ensure their proper maintenance and preservation. More information on managing Federal records can be found at NARA’s web site

[mopinko]

13. this says nothing about the process.

whoever it covers, exactly, their point was it was AUTOMATICALLY copied to the archives.

[Phoenix61]

17. That's not how the National Archives works.

If you read the document you will have a better understanding of the process by which records get placed in the National Archives. Nothing is automatically copied to the National Archives.

[mopinko]

18. i'm just repeating what 2 former wh staffers said.

perhaps they were speaking of a separate archive, and i misunderstood.
but they clearly said coms were AUTOMATICALLY copied and archived.

[Phoenix61]

19. Must have been. I can see e-mails being copied automatically

but not sure how that could be achieved with texts. They are going through an outside carrier.

[mopinko]

20. doesnt seem like a big deal to me.

i'm assuming these devices are not off the shelf.

[Phoenix61]

21. Of course they are off the shelf. Do you think the government

has its own cell phone provider?

[mopinko]

22. i just mean they have aps/features that are specific to the work.

[Phoenix61]

23. I'm sure there are apps to interact with their own documentation systems.

But texting would have to interact with whatever the cell phone provider uses. Every time it upgrades the government would have to upgrade. I don’t see them expending those resources when backing up texts is pretty straight forward.

[Orrex]

7. It's like how cops' body cams conveniently malfunction when they're abusing someone

[mopinko]

8. yup.

[captain queeg]

11. If they were using alternate devices you know they were up to no good

I think if DOJ gets serious they could find everything. When it is “just” congress those weasels will continue to lie and hide things. I might be wrong but I think DOJ would have the ability to wring the truth out.

On an earlier thread I commented that these guys ought to be reassigned at a minimum. While considering that I found that the SS other area of enforcement, aside from protecting various leaders, is the investigation or enforcement of financial system laws. That could open a whole new chapter with these guys. You know TFG is the king of shady dealings. I could see how having these guys under your thumb could lead to all kinds of shit. The SS scandal has barely begun. Im sure TFG would try to exploit anything he found.

[mopinko]

15. good point.

wonder how many seasons of this show we'll get.