Here's a Secret Service question

[PJMcK]

Rep. Cheney and Rep. Kinzinger have indicated that the Secret Service is being uncooperative with the J6 Committee and that they need to hear from the agency about the events on January 6th and about the text messages that were deleted.

What's come to light is that the Service has some very serious problems that need immediate attention.

The Secret Service is part of the Department of Homeland Security which is a part of the Executive Branch. Given the obvious problems facing the Service, couldn't President Biden step in and assert his executive authority to get to the bottom of this mess?

Why would the President step back since these folks are responsible for so many lives?

It's a mess and even from this distant vantage point, something is very rotten in the Service. Keep in mind, this is hardly the first instance of problems with this Service.

The President should clean it up ASAP.

[elleng]

1. Difficult bureaucratic (and political) questions you ask.

[Novara]

7. Exactly.

We know Biden. He isn't the sort to interject himself into investigations. And this one is a minefield because they are responsible for keeping HIM safe.

He'll sit back and hope the IG can get to the bottom of it, hope the J6 can shed some light on it, and if needed, hope that Mayorkas can do something about it. He'll do all that before even coming close to getting involved himself.

The whole department needs to be cleaned out and new trustworthy people need to be hired. But that takes a hell of a lot of time. And how do you train all new people to replace these fucks without them getting wind of it and possibly putting protectees in danger?

It's a fucking mess.

[elleng]

10. Yes, that takes a hell of a lot of time. And how do you train all new people.

Serious problems we've got.

[doc03]

2. Maybe the WH fears for Biden's safety when the

people that are supposed to protect him are infiltrated by Trumpers.

[Walleye]

3. Certainly the DHS Secretary oughta be able to do something about it

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. DRASTIC measures are called for here and with DOJ and trump and his cohorts.

But the last thing Joe Biden and Garland will do is something drastic because of their misplaced belief that we are still a two party democracy.

I understand their belief and why they might still have it, but those days are gone. I am very upset.

[underpants]

5. A few things

The Secret Service (SS) was very weakened when it move to Homeland. It used to be it’s own thing. Very elite. If a State Trooper got the call, they went. Long hours.

PJ, consider the personalities of these people. This is fighter pilot level. Risk and play. Several known incidents and one I was told second hand.


Consider that these guards could turn. That’s the worst thing any person in a seat of power could imagine. This isn’t Biden specific. I have to guess the sense there’s uncertainty between the parties involved.

[wyn borkins]

6. Considering Possible Ramifications

Perhaps President Biden should 'step-up OR step-in' (immediately) and issue some type of Executive Order wherein a different authority (maybe an upper echelon grouping of selected senior military officers) oversees the US Secret Service until such time as the current situational problems can be resolved.

It would also be okay with me if the president had final approval of any necessary actions involving the USSS.

Something needs doing - and that right soon (!).

[Novara]

8. They're responsible for his safety.

Does anybody think he'll go in all heavy-handed? His life - and the lives of his family, Harris and her family, Pelosi and her family, etc. would al be in danger if he turns on people that are already suspected to be untrustworthy.

[appleannie1]

9. My own opinion but I think trump made it into a political organization the same way he did the SC.

That being said, who is anyone supposed to trust?

[Thunderbeast]

24. Along with other DHS law enforcement (INS)...

...these became the core of his "private army" deployed to be his muscle with less accountability than federal marshalls. When the "Little Green Men" showed up without badges on Portland's streets (along with the Proud Boys), protesters were rounded up without juridiction or accountability.

[Major Nikon]

11. It would be very Trump like for the President to inject himself in the matter

The reason Trump fired so many of his appointees is because he thought he could directly control every aspect of the federal government through short circuiting federal controls and creating chaos.

However that’s not how it was intended or should work. There is a process that should work through a system of administration which provides some measure of protection from corruption regardless of who is in power.

[sop]

12. Trump thoroughly corrupted the Palace Guard. It was just another part of his attempted coup.

[live love laugh]

13. Homeland Security is and always was a joke.

Created by Bush based on lies.

[former9thward]

16. Three presidents since then have kept it.

All had the same power as Bush if they wanted to remove it.

[gab13by13]

14. The Secret Service is under DHS, like it or not.

Alejandro Mayorkas is the Director of DHS, before invoking President Biden, why not ask what Mayorkas is doing?

Why allow the DHS IG, a Trump appointee, to head the investigation? Why not ask where is the FBI?

I remember the FBI investigating Hillary Clinton for 1 year before absolving her.

[former9thward]

17. DHS, SS and the FBI all ultimately report to Biden.

He has the authority (and responsibility) to ask those questions if he thinks there is a problem. The heads of all three serve at the pleasure of the president and can be removed at any time if warranted.

[gab13by13]

18. What is Mayorkas getting paid to do?

I would think that Mayorkas could suspend or fire agents. I would guess that the agents have protection from being fired, procedure would have to be followed.

[LuvLoogie]

15. We need to provide him a political buffer.

But we're too busy stabbing him in the back.

[live love laugh]

19. Who is "we"?

[BidenRocks]

20. Fire the SS

Call in the Marines!

Until they can sort this shit show out, I wouldn't trust them!

Especially since some are lawyering up.

[duckworth969]

21. If SS lawyers up

then they should be immediately put on administrative leave and taken out of active duty.

[fescuerescue]

22. He probably wants to keep it neutral and not politisize it.

Smart move.

[tavernier]

23. I see no problem.

Ask President Zelensky to appointment ten of his best men to accompany President Biden until we can rid our agency of maggots.