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IcyPeas

(21,910 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:42 AM Jul 2022

It's Time to Stop Living the American Scam - NY Times opinion

....
Midcentury science fiction writers assumed that the increased productivity brought on by mechanization would give workers an oppressive amount of leisure time, that our greatest threats would be boredom and ennui. But these authors’ prodigious imaginations were hobbled by their humanity and rationality; they’d forgotten that the world is ordered not by reason or decency but by rapacious avarice.

In the actual dystopian future we now inhabit, the oligarchs have realized they can work everyone harder, pay them less, eliminate benefits, turn every human institution from medicine to corrections into a racket, charge far more for basic rights and services than people in any other nation would stand for without revolting, and get rich beyond the penny ante dreams of a Carnegie or Astor.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/07/opinion/work-busy-trap-millennials.html

No paywall:
https://archive.ph/6UWGu
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It's Time to Stop Living the American Scam - NY Times opinion (Original Post) IcyPeas Jul 2022 OP
Ty, good read. Brogrizzly Jul 2022 #1
Maybe we are at the "boiling point"....the lid is about to pop off ashredux Jul 2022 #2
Historically high social inequality can't, won't, and doesn't last. Change it at the ballot box or Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #6
Nothing lasts Johnny2X2X Jul 2022 #15
The militias should revolt against the oligarchs, not the American people. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #3
Now, that was freakin' brilliant! Ligyron Jul 2022 #4
Living wage jobs The Wizard Jul 2022 #5
Based on a quick search, he is a bit naive based on his age (55) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #7
I think he's talking about books like the space merchants. Mosby Jul 2022 #20
The OP included a "no paywall" link BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #21
Boredom and ennui are killing us though. Probatim Jul 2022 #8
K and R for truth Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #9
Can someone do that magical thing... OneGrassRoot Jul 2022 #10
Thank you, IcyPeas OneGrassRoot Jul 2022 #16
I like this guy . . . Strelnikov_ Jul 2022 #11
Brilliant piece Johnny2X2X Jul 2022 #12
One problem: we mistake prosperity for progress DinahMoeHum Jul 2022 #13
The richest country in the history of the world descends into feudal fascism. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #14
Such a good point Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #17
I'm Gen X Johnny2X2X Jul 2022 #18
That article is right on the spot LittleGirl Jul 2022 #19
People starve and suffer, not because we don't have the resources, but because we can't satisfy... TroubleMan Jul 2022 #22
Ya Think? Twilight Zone! TY! Cha Jul 2022 #23
"One important function of jobs is to keep you too preoccupied and tired to do anything else." tinrobot Jul 2022 #24

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
6. Historically high social inequality can't, won't, and doesn't last. Change it at the ballot box or
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:26 AM
Jul 2022

Convince people to vote in progressive politicians, or the change will not be so gentle. But change it will. It can't last for long.

Johnny2X2X

(19,140 posts)
15. Nothing lasts
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:54 AM
Jul 2022

But there are near infinite case studies where high inequality can last hundreds of years. The only thing standing in the way is that pesky media. And even in America today, there are common misconceptions about our society that most Americans believe.

Just look at Russia right now for an example. They have a stable government, with a leader who is wildly popular even as their economy is failing. They control information, so the people love their leaders more and more the more their leaders destroy their livelihoods. Putin has gone from 70% to 80% approval after the Ukraine invasion. That can happen here too, Trump and the GOP would love to usher in an era of media censorship and control that would make them just as popular here while they gutted everything our citizens hold dear.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
3. The militias should revolt against the oligarchs, not the American people.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:41 AM
Jul 2022

Last edited Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit to add: It is most certainly the GOP oligarchs who are funding the militias.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
4. Now, that was freakin' brilliant!
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:48 AM
Jul 2022

Expressing clearly what so many of us have felt for so long.

Darn it, if only I had the ability to express it so eloquently.

Well, at least I can bookmark it to share.

Thank you!

The Wizard

(12,551 posts)
5. Living wage jobs
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:26 AM
Jul 2022

level the playing field and lend to civilized discourse and behavior. People don't have to break the law to stay above water.

BumRushDaShow

(129,610 posts)
7. Based on a quick search, he is a bit naive based on his age (55)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:40 AM
Jul 2022

and seems to want to force-fit some situations into the theme he chose, taking much literary license.

For example, just the OP excerpt alone shows he missed all the other "midcentury science fiction writers" that did the opposite (with some works also becoming pop sensations through films) like William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson's "Logan's Run" (1967). And who would dismiss Orwell's "1984" (published in 1949)?

Most (good) science fiction attempts to bring out "the human condition" within the imagination of an alien universe, good and bad. And if he is attempting to hide behind what is apparently a reference to "Star Trek", he completely missed the point of that as well.

The other content force-fit into the narrative that I vehemently disagree with and that literally minimizes the struggles of certain demographics in this country, is this part from the essay -

It’s no coincidence that so many social movements arose during the enforced idleness of quarantine. One important function of jobs is to keep you too preoccupied and tired to do anything else. Grade school teachers called it “busywork” — pointless, time-wasting tasks to keep you from acting up and bothering them.

Enough with the busywork already. We’ve been “productive” enough — produced way too much, in fact. And there is too much that urgently needs to be done: a republic to salvage, a civilization to reimagine and its infrastructure to reinvent, innumerable species to save, a world to restore and millions who are impoverished, imprisoned, illiterate, sick or starving. All while we waste our time at work.


Meaning that a racist fucking cop kneeling on the neck of a bound and prone man lying face down in the street, for 9 1/2 minutes, killing him in place while others held him down, where the entire thing is recorded and shown for the world to see, and then people protesting that, is nothing more than a "social movement" that "arose during the enforced idleness of quarantine", speaks volumes.

I suppose he himself was "too busy" to see the struggles of people who were NOT like him and didn't have the privilege he enjoys daily.

If he truly had any background in history and sociology, he would have known that throughout the entire organized existence of humanity, there have always been "oligarchs" (family/clan/tribal leaders/monarchs/elders - whatever one might call them) who have set up hierarchies within communities, and many in the upper rungs of that hierarchy, did everything they could to either rise higher or maintain their status near or at the top.

So this isn't new but I suppose if your "job" is writing, you have to come up with something to "write about".

Mosby

(16,377 posts)
20. I think he's talking about books like the space merchants.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

I can't read the article because of the pay wall.

BumRushDaShow

(129,610 posts)
21. The OP included a "no paywall" link
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jul 2022


The examples I included ("Logan's Run" and "1984" ) were "books". There have been who knows how many (realistic dystopian) books written and the ones I mention are more "well known" because they were made into popular films (not unlike "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" which became "Blade Runner" or "Make Room! Make Room!" that became the oft-cited film "Soylent Green" ).

These show the the downside of tech and the "oligarachs'" role and end game.

Probatim

(2,543 posts)
8. Boredom and ennui are killing us though.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:06 AM
Jul 2022

QAnon and conspiracy theories covering all items (e.g., COVID and its vaccines, 5G, fluoride, climate change, etc.) are born out of ignorance and boredom. Add complacency through reality TV and 24/7 "reporting" and we're good and truly fucked.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
10. Can someone do that magical thing...
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:15 AM
Jul 2022

and provide those of us without subscriptions access behind the paywall? Thanks.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
11. I like this guy . . .
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:21 AM
Jul 2022
I still hope to make it to my grave without ever getting a job job — showing up for eight or more hours a day to a place with fluorescent lighting where I’m expected to feign bushido devotion to a company that could fire me tomorrow and someone’s allowed to yell at you but you’re not allowed to yell back.

Johnny2X2X

(19,140 posts)
12. Brilliant piece
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:35 AM
Jul 2022

So much in there, I could write 15 posts about it.

We're in a place right now where a lot of people go to jobs that are busy work for the most part. Somewhere, in some corporation(s) in the world, there is an industrial engineer, or a team of them, that has sharpened their scalpels with decades of lean study, that is empowered enough to lay absolute waste to the modern concept of organizations of business. And these people will finally do away with 90% of non value added work. In most organizations right now, 90% of the work is done by 10% of the people, the rest of everyone is just doing busy work. It's become a crutch for people to have something they can go to everyday, so they can earn a living, and feel like they're doing something. I work for a large corporation, we have entire departments that serve little function, but to do work that could easily be automated or processed away. And all of this is before AI has replaced many jobs.

I don't know where we're heading in this country, but this can't hold much longer. This author hits the nail on the head, the bulk of the US population is just not getting ahead, we're accepting less and less for more and more work all while the middle class lifestyle or parents or grandparents enjoyed is in the rear view mirror. The pandemic revealed some of these things to people for the first time in a long time, we don't live in a healthy society, and we're losing it all.

And scam is a great way to put it. We're being scammed, the poorer you are the bigger of a scam everything is.

DinahMoeHum

(21,812 posts)
13. One problem: we mistake prosperity for progress
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 08:36 AM
Jul 2022

. . .so says Scott Galloway, author and NYU professor of marketing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/18/business/dealbook/scott-galloway-economy-pandemic.html


We mistake prosperity for progress. And we have created tremendous, staggering, unprecedented prosperity. I think the mistake or the myth that we buy into — that whenever there’s prosperity economically, the G.D.P. grows, that it’s going to translate to progress for a nation.

What do we mean by progress? I think the ballast. . . is a healthy and thriving middle class. The geopolitical power of a nation, its well-being, its democratic strength, is usually a function of how prosperous its middle class is.

There’s a constant notion that if the economy does well, the middle class will restore itself. That is not true. What happens over time in all economic history is that the wealthy weaponize government, lower taxes on them, resist competition — the biggest, most powerful companies entrench themselves, and you end up with an erosion of the middle class. You end up with income inequality. It gets worse and worse, and then the same thing happens with income inequality. The good news is income inequality, when it gets to these levels, always self-corrects. The bad news is that the mechanisms for self-correction are war, famine and revolution.

Unless you provide and invest in a strong middle class, whether it be the minimum wage or support of unions or vocational training or access to free education or reduced-cost education, the middle class, as an entity, goes away. We have fallen into this notion that as long as the economy does well, the middle class will do well. The two are not necessarily linked.


Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
17. Such a good point
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 09:22 AM
Jul 2022

We think the economy is the filthy rich and their wealth extraction corporations.

That if corporations, Wall Street, those born to wealth and our oligarchy are doing fine, then the economy is doing fine. But it never translates to a stronger middle class. We bail out the filthy rich while forcing the middle class and poor into austerity to pay for it the bailouts. And people think that is a good economic plan.

Johnny2X2X

(19,140 posts)
18. I'm Gen X
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jul 2022

The author makes a good point that Gen X was the first generation that knew going into it they weren't going to do as well as their parents. And it's still lost on a lot of us. I have a BS in engineering, and a Masters in business. I have college debt that I won't pay off for decades yet. But I am doing much better than most, own a home, have a decent 401K, have a good job that pays well. But when doing an honest assessment, am I doing better than my folks did in the 70s and 80s? The answer is no. My dad made more money at a factory in "real" dollars than I make today, he had better health care, and his pension pays him more today than my 401K will ever pay me. We owned a home with 2 cars, and could afford modest vacations off from his salary and my mom working part time while raising us. And my dad was normal, he didn't do anything special, and he made plenty of mistakes along the way too.

But we said goodbye to all of that 40 years ago now, with the advent of Reaganism. And inch by inch, and cent by sent, the erosion of the middle class has continued unabated. And anyone that has tried to actually help the middle class (Obama and Biden mainly) has been painted as a radical for it. We live in the richest country in human history, and the bulk of our citizens live paycheck to paycheck with little hope for much else.

TroubleMan

(4,859 posts)
22. People starve and suffer, not because we don't have the resources, but because we can't satisfy...
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:10 PM
Jul 2022

the rich.

tinrobot

(10,924 posts)
24. "One important function of jobs is to keep you too preoccupied and tired to do anything else."
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 10:34 PM
Jul 2022
It’s no coincidence that so many social movement arose during the enforced idleness of quarantine. One important function of jobs is to keep you too preoccupied and tired to do anything else. Grade school teachers called it “busywork” — pointless, time-wasting tasks to keep you from acting up and bothering them.

Enough with the busywork already. We’ve been “productive” enough — produced way too much, in fact. And there is too much that urgently needs to be done: a republic to salvage, a civilization to reimagine and its infrastructure to reinvent, innumerable species to save, a world to restore and millions who are impoverished, imprisoned, illiterate, sick or starving. All while we waste our time at work.


I couldn't agree more. Great article.
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