I have a question...why do we have endless posts about Trump...sick of him. We should

[Demsrule86]

be concentrating on the future...midterms and what is happening outside of Trump...Personally, I do not believe Trump will be the nominee and if he was I believe he would lose...so for God's sake, I am so tired of Trump can we please move on to something of more importance to our future? We have Roe gone...we have Gay marriage threatened...Trans forced to register in Florida...we have big issues and problems...Can we please put Trump on the back burner and deal with the issues that will affect us going forward. Trump is done. We keep him alive and he is living in our brains...kick him out. And before I hear about how anyone can post anything they want. I know. I posted this...just an opinion. I believe Trump continues to 'win' if all we ever do is talk about him.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Agreed - only clicked on this because of the

subject line.

I'm over 45 unless it's a criminal referral, indictment, arrest, prosecution, and conviction.

The entire GOP is guilty of enabling this, and it's far more important to focus on the future - but that includes the midterms.

Who can be hurt by the 1/6 Committee and what activism can I engage in to inflict the maximum amount of pain on those GOP Candidates?

[Demsrule86]

2. Yeah, agree. I don't include January 6...and going after Trump minions is a good thing...it is

going after Republicans who could hurt us in the future. I hope every one of them ends up in jail. I am just tired of the posts which give Trump an almost supernatural power-all powerful...He is not and is living in our heads, kick him out.

He is a stupid old criminal who should never have been elected; he caused and presided over the worst pandemic since 1918 and killed millions. He barely won the first time and lost the second time...not worth all this handwringing. He will never be president again. He will be gone soon enough. I hope they plant him in a golf course. Let's not give him more attention...he likes that and it doesn't matter to him if it is negative or positive attention.

[ForgedCrank]

3. This has been

my primary point regarding the ass.
We need to let it go and stop talking about him or giving him the attention he craves.
Not getting press would hurt him more than anything else we could possibly do.

[Demsrule86]

21. He wants attention. He doesn't care if it is good or bad. Our priority should be winning the

mid-term. If the GOP gets in, we are in far more danger than anything Trump could do.

[DENVERPOPS]

77. Precisely Dems

2024 won't matter much if we don't make progress in 2022.

However, I also think that we shouldn't ignore the biggest threat to mankind ever to face the world. Which includes not only Trump, but anyone and everyone in this quasi Nuevo Republican Party......

I also fear election day 2022 because I feel no matter the outcome, the shit is gonna hit the fan......if they win they will feel even more emboldened and come out of the shadows swinging, if they lose, they are gonna come out of the shadows swinging.....either way, J6 won't hold a candle to what we could see........

All I can say is: These Republican's and their voters could not possibly have children or grand children.........or care about them if they do have kids and grandkids......

[Magoo48]

79. T....this and T.... that is bad enough, but there is never a need to post his fucking picture.

[Treefrog]

84. God yes!

Thank you!

[katmondoo]

4. I will stop when he is indicted. The biggest problem is still keeping our coutry a Democracy.

[Demsrule86]

19. He is likely never to be indicted...it is a very difficult case to bring especially someone who

is like a mob boss. As for saving our country...we need to do positive things to stop the GOP, and we need to win the midterms...if he isn't indicted should we waste the rest of our lives complaining about it. I say no...move on. We have shown the world who he is, and he is losing power. And that is something. He lost the election...for Trump that is the worst thing that could happen and you can see how he suffers. I do so enjoy it.

[calimary]

71. THIS!!!

[JHB]

5. Because the show ain't over until...

...the fat man screams about how unfair his convictions are. Preferably from his jail cell.

[Demsrule86]

11. And he will scream...but if a Trump screams in a jail cell or even in Florida and no one listens...

will it really matter let him scream...like a tree falling in a forest. Does it make a sound if no one can hear it? Fuck Trump, I don't care what he says or does.

[Mz Pip]

6. Why?

Because he’s still a primary mover and shaker in American politics.

I wish he’d go away, be indicted, be abducted by aliens, anything to get him off the stage. However, until the curtain descends on this awful play, we’re stuck.

[Demsrule86]

8. He is not. He is slipping everyday...if he is a mover and shaker, it because we give him attention.

There is nothing that benefits us by continuing this...crap. Kick him out of your head and move on to matters that are way more important.

[Mz Pip]

126. We ignore him at our peril.

He’s still a frontrunner for 2024 and could very well win.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. Trump is a distraction -- he feeds on attention. M$M will do just as in 2016 if we respond.

We need to focus on the real threats people face today and the real threat we face for the 2022 elections. Trump is significant only when J6 hearings are on and when something advances in one of the legal threats he faces. He will suck all the reporting to him if it gets clicks and eyeballs.

[Demsrule86]

9. You say it so much better than I did. That is exactly what I think. Thanks!

[In It to Win It]

10. Because he's not dead and therefore is a possible threat to democracy in the future?

I don’t post about Trump but I imagine that’s a possible reason

[Demsrule86]

17. He is not the threat anymore...he will never be president again and while he can cause trouble,

He won't have the power to do much. On the other hand ignoring Roe, guns, climate, LGBTQ, and all the other issues important to voters are being ignored while obsessing on Trump. This will hurt us. Let's look to the future. Trump is not a supernatural being. He was a shitty president which is why he unlike most incumbents lost. He got only tax cuts in the last Congress using reconciliation. He truly is a failed loser on all fronts. He is a pathetic buffoon and should be portrayed as such. We pay way too much attention to him and not enough to more important issues.

[SWBTATTReg]

66. You've said it, right on the nail head. The important issues are in front of us, and thugs

like cruz and company are intent on taking away more rights from Americans. Including the thugs on the Supreme Court.

At least we're having some headway in some of the legislation being passed by the House, safeguarding marriage, etc.

One thing at least I'm seeing (on YouTube) is that the articles are almost all, or 99% are, negative on tRUMP. It's an endless parade of negativity, and IMHO, we're yet to see all of the nefarious things he did, such as the auditing of his enemies via the IRS, the Secret Service hidden recordings, the alternate electors, the over 60 lost lawsuits contesting the election results, the attempts to get state legislators to overturn election results, etc.

[Mad_Machine76]

98. "He will never be president again"?

If he's alive and not sitting in a jail/prison cell somewhere, what's going to stop him from in 2024 if he wants to (and by all accounts he does)? And if he runs, who's to say he can't win the nomination and if wins the nomination, he certainly *can* be elected again. Trump(ism) still poses an active threat to this country. Also, some GOPers even want to make him Speaker if they win the House in November (while that's highly unlikely, it's still a relevant threat). Why *wouldn't* we talk about him?! He's not the only thing that we need to talk about but the future of a lot of what we are talking about hinges on whether he fails or succeeds in being elected again.

[Emile]

12. So why start an OP about Trump?

Anyway, just my thoughts.

[Demsrule86]

52. That is a very good question. My sole motivation was to point out if we make everything about

Trump and not Roe, LGBTQ, the forced registration of Trans folks in Florida, gun, climate, and all the other issues festering out there, we could very well lose the midterms. We need to put Trump on ignore and stop playing his game.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Because a lot of people find it easier to work against something than for something.

[Demsrule86]

53. And that is a problem for us moving forward...we need to fight for the people. People don't

hate Congress without reason. We are so busy working against stuff that we have forgotten how to fight with the sole motivation of sending help to the American people-concentrating on issues that matter to the people in their daily lives. Trump will go to jail. or he won't. We have no control over that. But what we can control is what we do to help the American people at this moment in time.

And putting Trump in jail while noble won't fix Roe or the courts...thus we need to work for the American people and let Justice handle the Trump situation. We need to be willing to move on no matter what the outcome of this investigation. Trump is not some supernatural being with unlimited powers...he is a big loser...has joined what three or four presidents who in 90 years lost as incumbents...laugh at him, ridicule him and jump with joy when you read his obituary. Other than that focus on more important things for our future. Don't give him the attention he craves.

[mcar]

14. I feel the same about the endless 2024 speculations

I don't care to know about dotard's latest rally or diatribe, or those of his minions.

Re 2024, until he tells us otherwise, President Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

In the meantime, we have midterm elections to win.

[Demsrule86]

56. I am so sick of it...I see those who never cared for Biden in the first place coming out in droves

to announce breathlessly that candidate whoever...needs to run and not Biden. The California ballot which I consider completely ridiculous based on our path to the presidency gave me such a headache I had to take Tylenol and lie down. Do folks understand how you win elections or what states are essential for us to have any shot at winning...victory lies through the rustbelt...and a California ticket would doom our chances.

[mcar]

102. I fear it's all designed to cause chaos

and deplete interest in the midterm election.

[Tommy Carcetti]

15. Pretending he will just go away is a fool's errand.

You could just pretend that odd mole on your skin might just go away too, but I wouldn't recommend it.

The time to ignore Trump was in Summer 2015. We didn't then, and because of that, we can't now.

(If only Trump were as sweet natured as Bob Wiley...)

[Nevilledog]

38. I think it's a mistake to dismiss trump. I want to know what all extremists are doing.

I mean, face it, they're not being sneaky about what they're going to do if they regain power. How do we know that? Because we're paying attention.

[Demsrule86]

57. It hurts our efforts to continually talk about him...he needs to be put on ignore...we have

turned Trump into some super villain and given him stature in the process...we need to stop and think. Let Justice handle the criminal aspect and move on. Don't give this piece of crap any attention...laugh at him. I think January 6 was a good move as it showed he was a traitor...but now the time is to focus on things that are good for the people.

[ShazzieB]

95. If you don't want to talk about him, don't talk about him.

I mean that most sincerely. Ignore the posts about him if that's what you need to do. Trash every thread that has him as the main focus, so you don't have to keep seeing them. But please, try to understand that some of us NEED to talk about him now and then.

This country has lived through a traumatic 7 years, starting from when he declared his candidacy, and it's NOT over yet. Some of us are still processing that trauma, and talking about it is part of our healing process and part of what helps keep us fired up for the midterms.

Like it or not, he IS still influential in GOP politics. Not as much as he used to be, but it's not an either/or situation; it's a matter of degree. Look at all the candidates he's endorsed in various races in the upcoming election. Not all of them are going to win, but some of them have a good chance of becoming senators, governors, and congresspersons. We need to fight that, and we are, but I don't see how having a good laugh at Trump's expense now and then is going to hurt that.

I firmly believe that he IS still dangerous. He shouldn't be, after everything that has happened, but he is. Like it or not, he IS still influential in GOP politics. Not as much as he used to be, but it's not an either/or situation; it's a matter of degree. Look at all the candidates he's endorsed in various races in the upcoming election. Not all of them are going to win, but some of them have a good chance of becoming senators, governors, and congresspersons. We need to fight that, and we are, but I don't see how having a good laugh at Trump's expense now and then is going to hurt that.

I believe it's dangerous to pretend he no longer matters at all. Not taking him and the threat he poses seriously was a big mistake back in 2015, and I don't think it's one we can afford to make again. Personally, I don't think he'll be potus again, but that doesn’t mean he won't try or that he won't wreak more havoc in the process.

If enough Trump‐endorsed candidates fall flat on their faces in the midterms, it will help a lot to weaken his influence, but we're not there yet. I know a lot of us would like to be done with him completely, but we can't afford to be done with him until he is done with America. And he is definitely not done yet.

It doesn't mean we're not also moving on. We can do both at the same time. We ARE doing both at the same time, and we will continue to do so.

[Demsrule86]

68. He is gone. He was defeated in 20...we act like he is still here...no. Kick him our of your brain.

Republicans are the threat...so let's wreck them this November. If we continue to obsess about Trump that won't happen.

[thucythucy]

16. Really. If only people had just ignored Hitler after his failed coup attempt...

Oh wait...

[Hermit-The-Prog]

20. Try this ...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/12/politics/list-investigations-trump/index.html

He's getting lots of attention from lots of lawyers, courts, and prosecutors, in civil and criminal matters.

[thucythucy]

23. I'm glad to see it.

We need to expose every facet of his criminality, and every one of his enablers.

We need to be relentless in linking the GOP to the Q-uack heads, even the "moderates" like Susan Collins who time after time gave this criminal a pass.

Ignoring him now is just what the GOP wants.

[Demsrule86]

58. This isn't Germany....completely different circumstances. And you merely help Trump by

giving him the attention he craves... ignoring him and ridiculing him the few times he comes up...that is how we do it.

[thucythucy]

106. This is "how we do" what, exactly?

Convince his rabid supporters to drop their support?

Undo all the legislation limiting and possibly undermining our right to vote?

I would argue that by ignoring him and his ongoing criminal conspiracy you help Trump and his enablers to operate under the radar to continue to undermine our democracy. To spread the Big Lie. To groom more followers in government, in the military, in the "alternate" media.

Yes, this isn't Weimar Germany. We aren't facing government gridlock, an authoritarian movement completely at ease with violence, unsettled foreign relations, growing economic uncertainty and inequality, a backlash against women's rights and gay rights, rising incidents of anti-Semitism and racism, a right wing judiciary....

Oh, wait...

[Tomconroy]

18. Trump was and remains an existential threat to democracy.

I don't think it's a good idea to ignore him.

[SilasSouleII]

39. Ageered

Any con man with that much manipulative power over people he despises(POC) should not be ignored but exposed.

[Demsrule86]

59. It is a good idea because we give him to much power by focusing on him. And we will loses

the midterms if we continue down this road.

[867-5309.]

22. I just hope Dems don't think this is the answer in mid-terms

It's valid for the J6 work to continue and for us to discuss it, though.

[Demsrule86]

60. That is my concern...people tend to believe that others believe as they do...living in Ohio,

I know that is not true. But we have a real shot in this midterm to send two rustbelt senate candidates to Washington...maybe more. But both Ryan of Ohio and Fetterman of PA are winning at this moment. And that is important for our future...Trump is the past. I don't give him the power that others do...in the end, he will be remembered as a traitor and as a pathetic loser. Ignore him and concentrate on winning elections for Democrats. That is where we must go if we want a future for this Republic and our party.

[Mad_Machine76]

103. What about plans among some GOPers to possibly make Trump Speaker of the House?

Yeah, it's a farfetched idea, but the Republican Party is nothing if not farfetched these days.

[question everything]

24. I had similar thoughts the other day when I opened DU and saw several posts on the

video forum all had his ugly face.

It is eve worse when he is on "today's picture." on the Home page.

Yet, we had to know what we are facing.

[Demsrule86]

61. We do know and the best revenge is to beat the piss out of the GOP..both Ryan

and Fetterman are ahead in Ohio and PA...that is a BFD...and yet a post about this was of no interest...just Trump and more Trump. Imagine how sad Trump will be if Vance and Oz both lose...he picked them as candidates and endorsed them. It would hurt his reputation as a power broker too. That is how you defeat Trump...at the voting booth.

[Justice matters.]

25. DU is a big-tent discussion (and "news") message board with X icons on each OP headline.

DU leaves the decision to read and reply to each and every member.

The traitorous orange mob boss will probably announce he will "run" tomorrow, hoping to sheild himself from prosecution for his endless crime spree.

It is important to keep monitoring his shenanigans.

For DUers who don't want to see threads about the monster, there's an X icon at the end of each OP.

I recommend to use it.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. I don't see the icon? "Trash thread"?

[Pluvious]

37. Every post has a name, count, and 4 tiny icons - the 4th has a itty bitty red X (nt)

[Demsrule86]

69. It is always there...and I use it. But I just think we are focusing to much on Trump and this

gives him power over us and makes him stronger.

[Evolve Dammit]

121. I agree. MSM makes $ on it. Sadly we can't ignore the potential threat of his rabid cult base.

[Demsrule86]

64. It is not about wanting to see them or not wanting to see them...it is about how giving

him attention helps him...if we make it seem his candidacy is important (it isn't) then we help him. Hey I can trash anything I don't want to see...but hell there is not much more on this site of late. We are early voting in Ohio with a Senatorial candidate that is likely to win...Ryan. He is ahead in all the polls I have seen...and most folks don't even know this. Trump is an asshole loser and deserves to be ignored and laughed at.

[H2O Man]

26. In terms of the future,

two things are important -- at least in my opinion. One would be the J6 Committee's hearings. Let's just consider the last one. I'd say that failing to discuss it is failing as citizens.

Second, for those of us actively involved in campaigning for our party's candidates for the November elections, it would not be helpful when potential voters mention Trump, saying, "I don't want to talk about him."

[Demsrule86]

65. I agree about Jan 6 hearings...But about Trump and get out the vote I don't agree. I am

calling and texting voters as I can't go out yet (been sick) and no one asks me about Trump...mostly Roe is what is on people's minds that and factory town issues. I call in both PA and OH. We should not bring Trump up in such calls. If we make the midterm about him, we will lose.

[H2O Man]

96. At least 50%

of the people I contact mention Trump, and the toxic political climate he has helped to create. I have not brought Trump up a single time. I've been doing campaign work for many decades, and have never had this happen with any other ex-president being a central topic of concern for voters.

[BOSSHOG]

28. Maybe for the same reason we continue to talk about cancer

I agree with you teammate. He is a freaking stain on democracy. But we can’t sweep him under the rug. He’ll thrive There as well with his kind.

I kinda use left handed logic (whatever the heck that is) but cancer will not win if we keep it and medical research in our conversation.

I feel your pain teammate. If there is a god in heaven he must really hate our country by giving us a swarm of conservatives.

[Demsrule86]

67. Cancer is a medical condition that will be around way longer than Trump. Trump will

eventually, be planted in one of his golf courses...so let's move on. Trump is not a danger anymore. We tend to fight the last battle... let's move on to the future and win the midterm. That is the best way to neuter Trump...and don't make the midterm about him. It will be fatal to our chances.

[BOSSHOG]

93. I'm all for winning every election

And give handsomely to the DNC. But as long as dumbasses listen to lies and act on them trump is still a danger.

[Escurumbele]

29. I have been saying that for over a year...I only want to know about the SOB when he is being

taken to a prison.

[Demsrule86]

70. Me too...we are on the same page about this.

[brooklynite]

30. Here's an answer: he's the head of one of two major Parties in the US...

...with the potential to influence electoral and policy outcomes.

[empedocles]

35. Yes.

Also, traitortrump is a motivating force for the many, varied anti-trump forces - which are key to larger reforms.

When nixon resigned, and 'left the big media picture' - the reform groups seemed to lose some of their energy/force.

[Demsrule86]

50. Ignoring Trump is our best option...oh sure continue the investigations...but don't click on

the slanted media articles where they breathlessly bring Trump up all the time and in many cases defend him...ignore him. He will hate that. Laugh at him. He is a loser and not worth bothering about.

[Demsrule86]

73. I think he is losing this power and will not be the head of the party much longer if he is now...

I think Trump is done and we only help him when we give him attention. If Ryan and Fetterman both win and the numbers look good it will cause an anti-Trump tsunami in the Republican party already I hear bitching from that front. Consider that Mastriano is being supported by long-time PA Republicans. He is losing his grip on the party...oh the ones who will take over suck too...but time to kick Trump out of our collective heads and move on. Let's not fight the last battle...it is a losing strategy.

[brooklynite]

83. At which point it'll be appropriate to ignore him.

[llashram]

31. he is

an endless danger that's why I post and respond. And every move the former sucker-pigshit in chief makes we better be scrutinizing him closely. Give the mother****** no room to breathe. At every turn trying to prick the ego of that narcissistic waste of oxygen. That's just me though. Can't speak for anyone else. I do understand your point though and do commiserate.

[Demsrule86]

48. But increasing his publicity and making him some sort of superhuman villian only makes

him more dangerous. He loves the attention...negative or positive. It doesn't matter.

[fightforfreedom]

32. Fuck Trump.

Fuck the Trump voters.

[Demsrule86]

47. I agree. If you still support Trump after what he did then you are a useless piece of crap and

not worth bothering about.

[Captain Stern]

33. Isn't this a post about trump? n/t

[Demsrule86]

46. It is...and an excellent point...I couldn't see anyway of asking this with make it about Trump.

But I make a point not to post about him...it is just that I have counted posts...why I don't know I am sick for the first time in my life and bored...I am getting better but still on the sidelines so I noticed the many posts about Trump and the dearth of posts about the midterm, Roe, and other important issues...And I just wondered why Trump all the time...living in our brains...well, I kicked him out...the only thing I would be interested in is his obituary.

[Sogo]

34. Hear, Hear!!

[Demsrule86]

41. Thank you...

[packman]

36. You know that itch in your behind after a good shit

Or that annoying droning sound in your ears that you just can't get rid of -

I agree - will not post anything that says "TRUMP" in it from this day forward unless it has to do with him being carted away to jail (Ha-ha on that),

[Demsrule86]

40. I want to see him carted away too...that would be an epic post....

[Marcuse]

42. Never forget.

[Demsrule86]

85. We won't forget but lets not give him more attention which strengthens him IMHO

[Novara]

43. I don't care if people talk about him. As long as it's about prosecuting him.

Or if he's dead. Or if he had a stroke or heart attack.

What I'm tired of is people posting the outrageous things he's said. Unless it's related to prosecuting him I don't give a good flying fuck what he says.

See why the media can't let go? Because people can't let go.

[Demsrule86]

86. Exactly, if it bleed it leads and Trump is still bleeding or important for all the wrong reasons.

But we do need to turn our attention to the midterms.

[wryter2000]

44. I'm done with talking about 2024

2022 is now and just as important as 2024. That said, Trump is helping us by pushing candidates like Oz and Walker. So, I'll mention him in that regard.

[Demsrule86]

87. And lets not forget JD Vance who is losing in Ohio...I am cautiously optimistic that Tim

Ryan will win.

[wryter2000]

92. Yup

I'm already making calls, but it will heat up in a couple of months. I really think we can beat these guys.

[jaxexpat]

45. It's because Trump is already a prepackaged villain.

About 70% of the population hates him already. That's a very unifying attitude, one that the DNC hasn't the funds to compete with. It's the closest to free political advertising you can find. And since the media is addicted to him, it remains current and newsworthy. Count blessings and don't dis the free see stuff.

[Demsrule86]

90. But I don't think Trump can help us with the midterms...it should be about the courts, Roe

and the chilling registration of Trans folks in Florida ET AL. Give voters a reason to vote for us by talking about things that matter to thems.

[Mad_Machine76]

107. "registration of Trans folks in Florida"?

Did I miss something?

[twodogsbarking]

49. There is no future with Trump.

[Demsrule86]

91. Exactly, he is done.

[PortTack]

51. Oh thank you! I ask myself the same at least twice a day. I don't want to hear what he is saying

I want plans, ideas to motivate, stories about volunteer organizations and how to get involved

For those here posting about him, you do realize it only helps his cause go viral. Plus, don’t kid yourself this site is followed by pukes. They no doubt use our posts and responses to further refine and magnify how they can further twist the facts.

[Demsrule86]

94. Thank you and what a great post. I am often told that it doesn't matter what we do here... I

beg to differ. I monitor rightie sites and often see DU posts there...they have DUer's they hate and would dox if they could. It matters...let's get going on the midterm...fired up and ready to go.

[PortTack]

115. Let's do!! Fire it up..and head for the midterms

[yaesu]

54. Been saying this for years, lets stop making it relevant. nt

[Demsrule86]

97. And you are correct...'it' needs to go away. And that can't happen if we continue to read stories

about him which breeds more stories or turns him into some all-powerful being...He is not that...he is a pathetic loser.

[SergeStorms]

55. I feel the same about cat posts.

Im allergic to the critters and find nothing cute about them whatsoever.

Then again, cat's aren't threatening to turn our country into a fascist dictatorship.

Are they? 🤔

Ignore Trump at your own peril. We took him lightly in 2016 and we've all witnessed the catastrophic result of that mistake.

I want never to repeat that glaring error again.

[packman]

76. Well, as you know , the internet was founded on the foundation

of porn and cats.

Cats are the glue that holds DU together, I think

[Novara]

80. Cutie!

[Septua]

78. Trump AND his spineless political followers are...

..a dark and evil force to be reckoned with. Problem is not enough people understand the magnitude of the threat or possibly don't realize there is a threat. November elections are the last stand against autocracy.

[Demsrule86]

99. It is not 2016 anymore. And Trump didn't win...without the help of the but her email crowd.

He barely won the first time and is one of four presidents who lost as an incumbent...nothing to fear but fear itself...Trump is done. We give him Oxygen when acting like he should be feared. He is a pathetic loser. Time to move on. Our best revenge is to win the midterms and send his candidates home with their tails between their legs.

[CaptainTruth]

62. To me DeSantis is more of a threat going forward than Trump

IMHO he's just as evil as TFG but more cunning, which is a dangerous combination.

We need to be careful that we don't get so focused on TFG that we allow DeSantis to build a large base of support without us fighting it. We could end up with "worse than Trump" & that would be a tragedy.

[Demsrule86]

100. I agree. DeSantis is dangerous.

[Mad_Machine76]

105. We can fight both right

Neither of them should be acceptable to a democratic country.

[LudwigPastorius]

63. Two reasons to not ignore Trump:

A possible second Trump term could be greatest danger this country has ever faced.

…and, it’s early, but Trump is out polling president Biden right now.

You don’t evade peril by ignoring it.

[SCantiGOP]

72. Agree we cannot ignore Trump

But every poll I have seen shows Biden beating trump if they were to face each other again.
In fact, a poll today showed 53% saying they would
not support Trump in 2024.

[Treefrog]

88. Yeah, but endless posts about which son looks like him?

If he's incontinent or not? Endless pics of him? Speculation about his genitals? What his first wife's home looked like?

Give me a break.

[Demsrule86]

104. Those are bullshit polls more than two years out. Trump will not win again. I doubt he will

be the candidate. Trump does not have the votes to win a general and he is not in power so he can't attempt another steal...and if you watch carefully...you will see that many Republicans are turning on him. Also, I submit that we turn Trump into some super being with all this fear of him and he loves it.

Kick him out of your head and move on is my undoubtedly unwanted advice...but never the less she persisted. And I Persist in my belief that we are actually empowering Trump and endangering the midterm with this unwarranted fear.

[Martin Eden]

74. Because he is still a threat, and because Justice is important

To ignore Trump now would be to ignore the Jan 6 hearings and the historically unprecedented prospect of indicting a former president on criminal charges.

Regarding the attempted coup and the violent attack on our democracy WE MUST NOT say "nothing to see here folks, just move along."

[Demsrule86]

108. I never said to ignore January 6...as for an indictment, I don't think it will happen personally.

The truth is out...and he craves attention, it empowers him to some degree...we need to move on to the midterm. If we lose the midterm, Trump has won. Our priority must be winning elections in the future and stopping the GOP murder club in regards to women and others. Nothing else matters. Trump will die and end up underground in one of his shitty golf courses and we can dance on his grave.

[hay rick]

75. We are living in the Age of Trump.

We need to be reminded every day. We need to summon up hate and anger or whatever it is that gets us to act in ways that we have not done in the past. Those who have lived comfortable lives and watched this history being written by others need to sacrifice some of that comfort.

The more attention is focused on Trump, the more he defines the Republican Party. He is a political liability.

[Demsrule86]

109. No absolutely the worst thing we can do...I believe the GP is moving away from Trump and it would

be foolish to essentially prop him up...you know what is a political liability...the end of Roe ...not Trump who is already a has-been...he just doesn't know it yet. Attention is like oxygen to him...don't give him any.

[Treefrog]

81. I agree wholeheartedly. Apparently he lives rent free in the

minds of many here.

There should be a forum for those who just can't quit him. They could discuss his wives, his wives' burial plans, which kid looks like whom, the layout of the wives' homes, his supposed illnesses and so on! What fun!

[Demsrule86]

110. And my favorite is the ...Trump killed Ivana posts...I mean he probaby put a hex on her I guess...

[Treefrog]

113. Oh I know!

One day, the guy is too feeble to wipe himself and the next he's masterminding a murder in NYC!

[Steve Canuck]

82. Ignoring him means Ignoring accountability.

Lets be perfectly clear, the DOJ started scrambling like crazy when the J6 committee made it painfully obvious that Trump and crew committed numerous crimes.

There are tons of powerful people that want to "protect the institution" and would make ample use of the public outright ignoring Trump.

[Demsrule86]

112. I don't give a damn about accountability, I want to win the midterms and this focus

on Trump could hurt us...Roe is way more important in my opinion. Trump is done. Maybe he is indicted maybe not...I really don't care. I just want to beat the GOP senseless in the midterms. It is our best chance in a long time looking at the numbers.

[Steve Canuck]

118. You think Trump will go away just because you want to ignore him?

If theres anything Trumps good at, its making media noise.

Theres only two ways Trumps gonna stop being talked about on the media:
Trumps six feet under because his health is shit.
Trump gets shoved in a prison cell.

The republican party didn't take trump seriously in 2015, and that party ceases to exist.

[Demsrule86]

119. Trump is going away and we don't need to help his cause by giving him the attention he craves.

[Steve Canuck]

120. Trump himself might.

Make no mistake, Trumps still the front runner of the republican party. There is a chance he might disappear but that does not mean Trumpism will disappear with him.

Your fatigue of trump isn't based in logic, you need to look at the bigger picture.

[Demsrule86]

122. Actually my fatigue of Trump is based on logic...I look and all around I see Trump being

challenged by other Republicans...trumpism IE the movement led by Trump will disappear...and if we have a good midterm...many more will abandon him and right-wing bullshit...not trumpism but right-wing bullshit.

[Steve Canuck]

125. You're talking about possibilities, not actualities.

On the 2024 ballet, the exact same two people are on the top of the republican ticket since 2020:
Trump and DeSantis.

The simple truth is, some of the never trumpers are emboldened by the jan 6 hearings. A few crackpot conspiracies from tucker carlson and ben shapiro will smooth things over with the republican base in between now and sept.

[boston bean]

89. Nope. Not gonna ignore that POS. He is too much of a threat.

[ShazzieB]

101. Hard agree.

With any luck, he won't be a threat for much longer. But we are NOT there yet.

[Demsrule86]

124. I don't believe he is a threat. In fact, he is a liability for the Republicans at this point which

makes me happy...let him flail around but remember he is a pathetic loser, not a super being.

[ShazzieB]

129. We will just have to agree to disagree on whether he's a threat.

We're not going to change each other's minds on that, and that's okay. Just please try to understand that some of us still see him as a threat to our democracy, and we don't feel that it's safe to ignore him, at least not yet.

That's just how it is for some of us. If you don't feel threatened by him, that’s great...for you. It doesn't change anything for those who find him dangerous.

[Totally Tunsie]

130. +++

[Demsrule86]

114. We have long term important Republicans defying Trump and encouraging Repubicans to

vote for the Democrat instead of Mastriano for governor. in PA..Walker, Vance, and OZ are all down in the polls. They were handpicked by Trump. He is losing power and the best thing we can do is laugh at Trump and turn our attention to the midterms...the real threat is losing the House or the Senate in the fall...not Trump. I am not afraid of Trump...he is now a pathetic loser. Let's not turn him into an all-powerful being...better that we ridicule him. He barely won in 16 and lost in 20...one of only four incumbents to lose in 90 years.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

111. TFG is like a bad venereal disease

really hard to shake, it keeps coming back

[Demsrule86]

116. Do we need anti-trumpacillian? Where is the CDC when you need them!

[Demsrule86]

117. Oh and thanks for the recs...I am humbled and appreciative.

[BlackSkimmer]

123. Shoot, I saw a post about Rush Limbaugh yesterday.

Some people just can't let things go lol.

[Demsrule86]

133. I saw that post. They wanted to jump on his casket?

[Kaleva]

127. Use the auto trash by keyword function

[Demsrule86]

128. I am aware of this and use it. I just fear we are turning Trump into something he is not...

we kind of help him when we give him attention. He craves it and it helps him. I would rather concentrate on the most important midterm in my life...Trump is on his way out. It is truly a waste of time to read OP after OP about Trump...the one that got me was who was the mother of Trumps kids! but thanks for the information.

[IcyPeas]

131. he just held a rally in arizona on friday, saturday he was speaker at TPUSA, tuesday he will be

Trump returns to Washington, D.C., on Tuesday — his first visit since leaving in disgrace after Jan. 6 — to deliver the keynote address for AFPI’s America First Agenda Summit. As the ex-president is poised to announce a 2024 run, his allies are eager for him to use the occasion to press pause of his grievances about 2020 and begin to lay out a game plan for 2024.

Will that speech be televised? probably.

why do the other side seem to have so many of these big summits and conferences and all sorts of events headlined by trump and his cronies. and they all make headlines... and they all make money.

they are experts at manipulating the media.

[Demsrule86]

132. Well he got booed...and those rallies are more pathetic than anything right now...and when

you have Nazis in attendance...come on. He is finished.

[eppur_se_muova]

134. Maybe we should create a new Forum -- The Former Guy.

(though I've always preferred Loser McLoserface, frankly)

[kentuck]

135. There's a fire in the kitchen...

...maybe I should go outside and mow the lawn? It really needs it.