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Nevilledog

(51,218 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:22 PM Jul 2022

Strategic messaging guidance for countering Republican talking points.





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INDIVISIBLE UNPACKED
Strategic messaging guidance for countering Republican talking points.

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Strategic messaging guidance for countering Republican talking points. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2022 OP
Cliff's Notes version? Moostache Jul 2022 #1
It's a little more detailed than that...lol Nevilledog Jul 2022 #2
"Call them out" GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #5
Solution for gasoline prices: don't buy any Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #3
That can be pretty hard for people that don't make a lot of money.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #4
Don't compare apples to watermelons Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #6

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
1. Cliff's Notes version?
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jul 2022

1) GOP lies constantly.
2) GOP projects EVERYTHING they do.
3) Call them out on anything and they go straight to victim mode.

GoodRaisin

(8,930 posts)
5. "Call them out"
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jul 2022

The million dollar question is how to do that, if so many of the people voting don’t read or watch anything other than Netflix.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,474 posts)
3. Solution for gasoline prices: don't buy any
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jul 2022

Ok, some non-hermit folks have to. Transitioning to ZEVs (Zero Emission Vehicles) is necessary.


TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
4. That can be pretty hard for people that don't make a lot of money....
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jul 2022

EV's and hybrids cost more, and there are not a lot on the used car market.

Not saying people couldn't do better by buying more fuel-efficient 4-cylinders, but we have a culture of people wanting bigger cars (partly for safety purposes because of everyone else driving big vehicles).

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,474 posts)
6. Don't compare apples to watermelons
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jul 2022

"EV's and hybrids cost more, and there are not a lot on the used car market."
That's a marketing assertion that has too few facts to be refuted as stated.

Let's see what's going on.


The average price tag for a used vehicle is $33,341, a 0.5% increase from May and just $172 below the peak in March, the CoPilot research shows. If depreciation forecasts had held true, the average price would be $23,295, according to CoPilot’s index.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/21/consumers-paying-average-10000-above-normal-prices-for-used-cars.html


Ok, that's crazy.

Looking at https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/cheapest-electric-cars/
we can see the MSRP (which nobody in their right mind pays) for 7 NEW electric cars, in that "cheapest" category range from 27,400 to 41,995.

That's crazy to me, too.

But, considering an EV costs about half as much to operate over its lifespan, I think I'd spring for the new EV over the average used gasoline vehicle.

When I check edmunds for used EVs, between 15,000 and 35,000, and 2017 (because of an improvement in lithium batteries around that time) - 2022, it shows 21 vehicles all clustered around 22,000.
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