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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:22 PM Jul 2022

Just a guess, I think I know why committee members are putting pressure on Garland.

I believe Garland /DOJ have a 60 day policy when it comes to elections. Starting sometime in September Garland will not announce investigations, indictments, etc, into any of the people involved in coup. If he takes action it will have to happen in August or it will not happen until after the election.

Members of the committee want Garland to announce an investigation, indictments, before the election. They know if Garland doesn't do that soon it will not happen until after the election.

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Just a guess, I think I know why committee members are putting pressure on Garland. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #1
Another rule that will be completely ignored when Republicans take Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #2
Probably spot on. rubbersole Jul 2022 #3
I heard 90 days also. gab13by13 Jul 2022 #5
Trump is not running for anything in November Walleye Jul 2022 #4
That was my opinion also, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #6
Exactly. Even if he announces, the POTUS election is over two years away. Sibelius Fan Jul 2022 #8
Agree. This rule would only apply to wnylib Jul 2022 #23
True about trump, but what about Jordan, Boebert, MTG, Gohmert, etc. ad nauseum. panader0 Jul 2022 #16
They are just enablers. Trump is the real criminal Walleye Jul 2022 #17
True, but Democrats could use those extra seats in the House. panader0 Jul 2022 #21
Use their crimes to campaign against them Walleye Jul 2022 #22
Yep which works with dems and reps (link) uponit7771 Jul 2022 #42
Those enablers are running and with arrest / charges they wouldn't be or would have a less chance uponit7771 Jul 2022 #41
Isn't that what he's pretending to be doing right now via rallies? msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #26
Yes. But the election he's running for isn't until 2024 Walleye Jul 2022 #27
Right? I wondered if that was your point, but I don't think it matters for Trump. msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #29
I'm just thinking that if the rule is 60 or 90 days before an election. That would be in 2024 Walleye Jul 2022 #31
That certainly would be logical and the sop for campaigning the norm msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #38
Yes he will, he stays out of jail that way looking at the history of the DOJ uponit7771 Jul 2022 #40
I believe that applies to those who are running in an election. Trump and most of his cronies aren't pnwmom Jul 2022 #7
That may be so, but this investigation is unique to say the least. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #9
Why not? gab13by13 Jul 2022 #11
I have three words for you usonian Jul 2022 #10
A good argument can be made that Comey cost Hillary the presidency. gab13by13 Jul 2022 #12
Comey wrote a private email, and it was leaked by a Repuke FakeNoose Jul 2022 #13
Per the plan. dchill Jul 2022 #28
And the rest of the FBI GOP smugsters. Like to see their phone logs on 1/6 as well as SS. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #33
another made up memo guideline that comey didn't follow RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #14
I think Garland wants to know who will Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #15
He's banking on republicans taking the house so this vanishes and he doesn't have to do anything. PSPS Jul 2022 #18
Garland then has over 2 years to indict Trump and his sycophants Mr. Ected Jul 2022 #19
Where are you getting that timeline?! Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #43
Fuck Garland's 60 day policy. What the hell is his policy to the application of RULE OF LAW. ancianita Jul 2022 #20
This! BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #32
Unless someone feels "mildly nauseous". KPN Jul 2022 #24
YES and sorely needed JT45242 Jul 2022 #25
I expect that Garland will wait until after the election. Kablooie Jul 2022 #30
It seems the ever moving goalposts are moving again. former9thward Jul 2022 #34
After the midterms, it will be too close to the Presidential election. Chainfire Jul 2022 #35
I think the reason is very simple and straightforward: ecstatic Jul 2022 #36
Makes sense. But a pro criminal like TFG requires live love laugh Jul 2022 #37
***THANK YOU!!!*** And charges / arrest affect dem and rep election decisions (link) uponit7771 Jul 2022 #39

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
6. That was my opinion also,
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jul 2022

this unwritten rule should only apply to people on the ballot, unless you're Hillary Clinton of course.

Sibelius Fan

(24,808 posts)
8. Exactly. Even if he announces, the POTUS election is over two years away.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jul 2022

Would the DOJ allow a criminal to avoid prosecution simply because they announce they’re running for POTUS in the future? It’s not like there will even be a nominee until June 2024.

Seriously. It would give every criminal in the country an easy way to avoid prosecution - just announce you’re seeking political office sometime in the future.

wnylib

(26,016 posts)
23. Agree. This rule would only apply to
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jul 2022

candidates involved in the investigation. It might apply to some of the Congressional candidates who could be part of a criminal investigation, but would not apply to Trump or to the Republicans as a whole.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
16. True about trump, but what about Jordan, Boebert, MTG, Gohmert, etc. ad nauseum.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jul 2022

It'd be nice to see a few Reps knocked down before the midterms.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
21. True, but Democrats could use those extra seats in the House.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jul 2022

Plus, as mentioned above, trump is not on the ballot this year.

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
22. Use their crimes to campaign against them
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jul 2022

Also campaign against Kevin McCarthy and every district. The man who would be speaker

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
41. Those enablers are running and with arrest / charges they wouldn't be or would have a less chance
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jul 2022

... of winning

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
26. Isn't that what he's pretending to be doing right now via rallies?
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:00 PM
Jul 2022

I've read statements attributed to him at his rallies, that he has to run in order to avoid dealing with legal matters. I forget which lrgal mattes he had in mind, but I sispect it's all of them.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
29. Right? I wondered if that was your point, but I don't think it matters for Trump.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jul 2022

Unless there is a "start time" rule? Cuz that corrupt thug will "campaign" to drum up money for personal financial interests, even though that is highly illegal. He's been doing that and not facing any consequences thus far. Since 2015!





Walleye

(44,807 posts)
31. I'm just thinking that if the rule is 60 or 90 days before an election. That would be in 2024
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jul 2022

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
38. That certainly would be logical and the sop for campaigning the norm
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 09:13 AM
Jul 2022

If we haven't learned anything but this One thing that psychopath has shown the world, he's not inclined to abide by norms, rules, nor the laws of the land.

When he announced his official 2020 campaign just after the 2017 nauguration, not only was that shocking and head scratching, he was revealing a deeply sinister character and agenda. He had no plans of ever leaving the White House.

His campaigning for 2024 had begun a few months ago, although it was cloaked in the stop the steal fund raising campaigning, for him it's the same thing. And we could see it in action. Now he's going full bore. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if he hasn't filed to make it official for the purpose of legal protections against DOJ/FBI investigations and prosecutions. etc.

This is the main cause for so much angst among some of us, as he remains free to gallup around the country riffing on his perceived victimization to raise money and support. ymmv.







pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
7. I believe that applies to those who are running in an election. Trump and most of his cronies aren't
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jul 2022
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. That may be so, but this investigation is unique to say the least.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jul 2022

I don't think Garland will announce the biggest investigation in our history leading up to an election.

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
11. Why not?
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jul 2022

This has been the biggest attack on our government since the Civil War. There are a lot of Magats running for office whose platform is The Big Lie.

Go get em Fani.

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
12. A good argument can be made that Comey cost Hillary the presidency.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jul 2022

The FBI investigated Hillary for 1 year and then absolved her of wrongdoing.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
13. Comey wrote a private email, and it was leaked by a Repuke
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jul 2022

Nobody remembers that part.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
33. And the rest of the FBI GOP smugsters. Like to see their phone logs on 1/6 as well as SS.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jul 2022

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
14. another made up memo guideline that comey didn't follow
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jul 2022

give me a break.


Why do I feel like Garland is sitting in an office with 4 federalist/DOJ members debating the memo about whether a president/ex-president can be indited ?

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
15. I think Garland wants to know who will
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

control the House for the next two years before he announces annything.

This from the guy who doesn't want to look political, while he is being 100% political.

PSPS

(15,321 posts)
18. He's banking on republicans taking the house so this vanishes and he doesn't have to do anything.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jul 2022

Or maybe he'll make up another "rule" that says one can't touch someone who has "announced" a future run. Trump himself has said he thinks his announcing a '24 run will immunize him. Garland will almost certainly agree.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
19. Garland then has over 2 years to indict Trump and his sycophants
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jul 2022

Unless any of them are running for office in November, in which case a secret, unofficial memo that has no legal force and effect will dictate whether our democracy survives or fails...at which time, no law or secret memo will ever apply again.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
43. Where are you getting that timeline?!
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jul 2022

1/6/21 was not even 2 years ago and Garland wasn't confirmed until March 2021(?)

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
20. Fuck Garland's 60 day policy. What the hell is his policy to the application of RULE OF LAW.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:18 PM
Jul 2022

No oath keeping law enforcer prioritizes EXPEDIENCE of enforcement with the NEED for enforcement of rule of law.

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
25. YES and sorely needed
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jul 2022

All 147 reps who voted for the coup are potentially up for re-election

In the Senate

GRASSLEY was involved somehow, and up for re-election

RON JOHNSON likely involved and definitely in Putin's pocket

RUBIO likely involved and definitely in Putin's pocket

John Kennedy (LA) voted not to certify

That could totally swing both the House and the Senate.

Time matters. Garland is likely going to refuse to do anything after the former Rethugs smeared Hillary so bad. And that will likely help Grassley et al win.



Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
30. I expect that Garland will wait until after the election.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jul 2022

Even if he announced it now it would have an effect on the election and I'm sure he's trying to avoid that.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
34. It seems the ever moving goalposts are moving again.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jul 2022

People thinking there are going to be massive indictments (of leaders) relating to Jan 6 are now moving that thought to beyond November sometime.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
36. I think the reason is very simple and straightforward:
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:21 PM
Jul 2022

There is zero evidence that Garland has taken any action with regard to the WH coup plotters. On Deadline White House, they discussed some of the things that tend to happen when an investigation is happening, and none of those things are happening.

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
37. Makes sense. But a pro criminal like TFG requires
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jul 2022

the utmost preparation for prosecution. Or it will all be for naught much like the impeachments.

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