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Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:25 PM Jul 2022

Dramatic drop in GOP support in over-65 demographic

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-senior-voters-polls-midterms-trump-republicans-1726839

"The Republican Party has suffered a heavy loss of support from senior voters in recent months, a key demographic for the party in November's midterms and for Donald Trump's presidential ambitions, according to polls.

A recent survey conducted by CNN and the research firm SSRS found that 47 percent of those aged 65 and over said they would vote for a GOP candidate if the midterm congressional election for their district were held "today," with slightly more people aged 65 and over saying they would vote for a Democratic candidate (49 percent).

This is a major turnaround from May, when a previous CNN/SSRS poll found that nearly two-thirds of those aged 65 and over (62 percent) said they would back a Republican candidate in the midterms, compared to just 37 percent of seniors who said they would back a Democratic candidate.

According to the results, the GOP has seen a 15 percent drop in support from those aged 65 and over—one of the main demographics in any election—in just two months between the two polls being conducted." ....(more)



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Dramatic drop in GOP support in over-65 demographic (Original Post) Tanuki Jul 2022 OP
Next step: take back the Villages! tinrobot Jul 2022 #1
YES! Rebl2 Jul 2022 #38
Ha! We old people remember before Roe vs Wade Walleye Jul 2022 #2
Yup, and we have granddaughters Freddie Jul 2022 #11
Yes we are, and the granddaughters are pissed off too! PortTack Jul 2022 #18
👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #49
Darn right! elleng Jul 2022 #71
Yep. Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #12
Absolutely, and also remember ww2 MyMission Jul 2022 #23
That shocked a lot of old folks back into reality, that's for sure Warpy Jul 2022 #24
Rick Scott BonnieJW Jul 2022 #26
Well, that's always been the Republican wet cream Warpy Jul 2022 #35
There are Democrats in both houses soldierant Jul 2022 #52
Darn c and d keys are close together. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2022 #55
Could be a Fraudulent slip Warpy Jul 2022 #59
Boom! calimary Jul 2022 #66
It still worked. ChazInAz Jul 2022 #64
Maybe going after abortion & birth control turned off the generation of sex, drugs, & rock-n-roll. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #3
Hope so Rebl2 Jul 2022 #39
COVID-19 took a heavy toll on seniors who refused to get vaccinated EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #4
True! Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that Rs were dying at five times the rate of the Ds OMGWTF Jul 2022 #13
1.02 million have died in the US as of today MyMission Jul 2022 #44
👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #50
Ten times would have been better by far! machoneman Jul 2022 #78
May it drop even further when the J6 hearings commence. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2022 #5
Jan 6 hearings? HelpImSurrounded Jul 2022 #6
Mucking about with Social Security and Medicare isn't exactly endearing EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #7
Took a lot of them a long time to realize this... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #9
I'm not sure a lot of seniors know Danascot Jul 2022 #63
Exactly. n/t FSogol Jul 2022 #19
that's what I think it is more than Roe nini Jul 2022 #25
pukes have been trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare for decades not fooled Jul 2022 #31
--- since the time of Alf Landon. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #48
Perhaps he was behind Ayn Rand in line not fooled Jul 2022 #53
At least 15 years ahead of Ayn Rand. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #68
No it is not! Rebl2 Jul 2022 #41
If Trumpie stooges will toss democracy over a lie, they'd have no problem with SS and Medicare gulliver Jul 2022 #62
Roe, Roe, Roe your vote against theocracy ... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #8
Go on and make them work at their age for social security Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #10
A slight expiation given what we did to the planet. NNadir Jul 2022 #14
The corporate greed StrkSrviver Jul 2022 #15
So after doing exactly what they said they would do, people are upset? Lol Takket Jul 2022 #16
Something my dad used to say: Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #17
Those Hypocrites voted for 2 draft dodgers Bush and Trump RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #20
Many of the early baby boomers were opposed radical noodle Jul 2022 #60
Because the GOP will cut Medicare and Social Security? OrlandoDem2 Jul 2022 #21
if you value your social security, one would be wise not to vote for the GOP RAB910 Jul 2022 #22
senior citizen pamdb Jul 2022 #27
The majority of senior citizens have voted Republican for a long time. Mariana Jul 2022 #46
Well, it is one age demographic, and they do heavily lean GOP obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #74
I agree. I am a boomer and haven't voted for a repub in decades. I can't even demigoddess Jul 2022 #84
65 and older watched the J6 hearings. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #28
This. mdelaguna Jul 2022 #73
That's a huge drop in support for Republicans. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #29
That's excellent news. Martin68 Jul 2022 #30
Very good news for the white hats...IE Democrats. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #32
I would gladly wear DENVERPOPS Jul 2022 #37
Jan 6 hearings, social security democratic TV ads, Roe Emile Jul 2022 #33
Don't underestimate the talk of Social Security SCantiGOP Jul 2022 #69
drop this headline and link everywhere Captain Zero Jul 2022 #34
Not with DownriverDem Jul 2022 #43
I'm 73 and I'm on DU. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #65
There's a reason The Summer of Love... Pluvious Jul 2022 #36
Macabre part -- covid as selective influence JT45242 Jul 2022 #40
But the decrease has happened since May. Mariana Jul 2022 #47
Too bad DownriverDem Jul 2022 #42
Methinks it could have a lot to do with certain GQP Senators saying they're all in in doing away Texin Jul 2022 #45
Well said. NT SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #76
What is the breakdown by gender? LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #51
Republicans are going after the New Deal itself - Social Security and Medicare. dalton99a Jul 2022 #54
Dems have to drive home the fact that the GOP Katinfl Jul 2022 #56
100 percent XanaDUer2 Jul 2022 #57
+1. When Republicans say anything is "settled", they are lying. dalton99a Jul 2022 #58
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #72
How stupid. SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #61
Retirees voting R? Not the smart ones. czarjak Jul 2022 #67
Wonder how many over 65 anti-vaxxers are still around? Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #70
GOP said they'd take away Social Security, Medicare + raise their taxes. n/t CousinIT Jul 2022 #75
As a very senior, I'm scared to death that something will happen to dissolve S.S. Paper Roses Jul 2022 #79
Rick Scott in this instance being the grim reaper poster child Zambero Jul 2022 #81
Social Security Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #77
"Get a job" may not be effective campaign to a 75-yr-old XanaDUer2 Jul 2022 #80
I am well over 65 SouthernLiberal Jul 2022 #82
I LOVE reading this! liberalla Jul 2022 #83

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
11. Yup, and we have granddaughters
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:40 PM
Jul 2022

A lot of women my age are really pissed off about the future for our girls.

MyMission

(2,010 posts)
23. Absolutely, and also remember ww2
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jul 2022

Or remember male family members who fought in that war,
The war to end all wars.
The war against tyranny, fascism and Nazis.

I think many "older" folks see the direction our country is moving in, and understand it's not a good direction. And they understand, or are realizing the importance of country over party.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!
Looks like many won't be fooled again.


Warpy

(114,615 posts)
24. That shocked a lot of old folks back into reality, that's for sure
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jul 2022

and old folks are the ones who are watching more of the hearings since they've got the time to do it.

Both are causing them to rethink their loyalty to that rotten excuse for a political party.

BonnieJW

(3,124 posts)
26. Rick Scott
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jul 2022

coming out with his opinion about getting rid of Social security, Medicare and Medicaid didn't win any over 65 hearts either

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
35. Well, that's always been the Republican wet cream
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jul 2022

They want all the billions going into the stock market, instead. Never mind that everywhere that scheme has been tried, it has failed miserably and they've ended up with o;ld folks who didn't get rich quick in miserable poverty and dependent on the state for a handout.

The USSC abolishing Roe was a wakeup call, I think, people know that the GOP will continue to overreach and try to run this country from the extremist court.

I also think that the next Democratic administration will be forced to expand the court to break their stranglehold. I don't see Congress growing the cojones it would take to remove the extremists for violating their oaths of office and perjuring themselves before the Senate.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
52. There are Democrats in both houses
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jul 2022

who are not lacking in cojones. There just aren't enough of them, particularly in the Senate. And whose fault is that?

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
3. Maybe going after abortion & birth control turned off the generation of sex, drugs, & rock-n-roll.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jul 2022

I know Roe was a big event in my young life. So was Planned Parenthood & having access to BC.

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
4. COVID-19 took a heavy toll on seniors who refused to get vaccinated
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jul 2022

It’s kinda hard to poll the dead.

OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
13. True! Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that Rs were dying at five times the rate of the Ds
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jul 2022

from Covid and it could be enough to swing some elections blue.

MyMission

(2,010 posts)
44. 1.02 million have died in the US as of today
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:39 PM
Jul 2022

That's 1 million, 27 thousand dead from documented covid, as of July 25, 2022.

And Not all deaths caused by covid were recorded as such, so the number is certainly higher. And odds are those that weren't recorded were rethugs in denial, so some lost votes in that category.

But Not everyone who died was voting age, or registered to vote, or registered with a political party, so the official number doesn't represent quite that many voters (but we can add voters from those who died with unrecorded covid to extrapolate, and remove a portion of non voters.)

If the ratio of deaths is five times greater for them, I'd guestimate that's still probably 600,000 dead rethugs at least, with numbers rising, and I hope closer to 800,000. That number of lost votes, combined with added votes for blue candidates could impact elections in red areas, especially where a few percentage points shifting can change the outcome.

I live in NC where state elections have generally been within 1-2 points. In 2020 we reelected our Dem governor with a higher margin, 51.5/47. But rethug senator won 48.7/46.9, and NC went for tfg by a narrow margin of 49.93/48.59. Both won with less than 50% of the votes. Local elections generally run 60/40 their favor. But I'm sure there are counties across the US where percentages are close enough they can be flipped for local elections.

I have no doubt Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson is very wise.

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
7. Mucking about with Social Security and Medicare isn't exactly endearing
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jul 2022

to the senior demographic.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
9. Took a lot of them a long time to realize this...
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jul 2022

repubs hate, hate, hate SS and Medicare. At best, they want to "privatize" them. At worst they just want to outright kill them.

Danascot

(5,232 posts)
63. I'm not sure a lot of seniors know
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jul 2022

the GQP wants to get rid of SS and Medicare. Where are they going to hear about it? Fox news?

nini

(16,830 posts)
25. that's what I think it is more than Roe
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jul 2022

When it hits your livelihood for retirement they'll wake the hell up.

Though Roe is definitely not helping either.

not fooled

(6,680 posts)
31. pukes have been trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare for decades
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:54 PM
Jul 2022

just goes to show how poorly informed most voters--including seniors--have been, that seniors didn't realize this before.

I continue to maintain that if the corporate media had adequately informed seniors all along of what the GQPee has been doing to destroy Social Security and Medicare, seniors would have stopped voting for them a long time ago. Hence the plethora of billionaire-funded think-tank drones propagandizing voters into thinking Social Security and Medicare are failing and need to be destroyed. Gotta get the marks to buy into the con.

Rebl2

(17,740 posts)
41. No it is not!
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jul 2022

I remember when Obama administration was trying to pass ACA, seniors were saying don’t touch my Medicare or social security.

gulliver

(13,985 posts)
62. If Trumpie stooges will toss democracy over a lie, they'd have no problem with SS and Medicare
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jul 2022

Seniors better think long and hard about just how much boat rocking the boat will take before their retirement incomes and health care go overboard.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
8. Roe, Roe, Roe your vote against theocracy ...
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jul 2022

Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

The radicalized Republican party loves NRA money more than your grandkids and is drooling over the Social Security stockpile.

 

StrkSrviver

(85 posts)
15. The corporate greed
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 02:56 PM
Jul 2022

The truth about the unequal results of the 2017 tax cuts is starting to get looked at with all the talk of corporate greed. A lot of the younger "boomers " are also turning 65 and there was always a political shift leftward from people born in the mid 40's to people born after rock and roll was.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
17. Something my dad used to say:
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jul 2022

With regard to elections, especially…

“When the grey hairs team up with the long hairs, it’s all over”. (Meaning young and old)

I have been watching for news of this in the lead-up to mid terms. This makes me happy.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
20. Those Hypocrites voted for 2 draft dodgers Bush and Trump
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jul 2022

and they fly the most flags in the entire country.

This demographic should be known as the paper tigers.

Remember how many shit political hack SC judges were put on the court by BUSH and TRUMP. never forget

radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
60. Many of the early baby boomers were opposed
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jul 2022

to the Vietnam War, so perhaps dodging the draft during that time doesn't necessarily look like a big negative to them.


pamdb

(1,439 posts)
27. senior citizen
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:38 PM
Jul 2022


I've always hated it when the media lumps all us senior citizens (71 and 70 here) into one group
as people who vote republican. All of my friends are seniors and NONE of us vote republican.
I would sooner vote for road kill rather than any republican. We are all pretty much retired librarians, teachers, and municipal employees. The only republican I ever voted for was Gerald
Ford and that was because he was Michigan and frankly, I wasn't paying a lot of attention to
that race. I think I was still in college then.

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
46. The majority of senior citizens have voted Republican for a long time.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jul 2022

There is nothing wrong with saying so.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
74. Well, it is one age demographic, and they do heavily lean GOP
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jul 2022

There is nothing wrong with stating that, since it is a fact.

demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
84. I agree. I am a boomer and haven't voted for a repub in decades. I can't even
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jul 2022

stand to listen to their stupidity. Most of them make no sense and haven't since 1960. And you might have forgotten the idiots who ran as democrats, got elected, and immediately switched over to the republican party back in about the early 80s. Cheating doesn't make you a leader. Can't stand the republicans.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
29. That's a huge drop in support for Republicans.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jul 2022

If it holds till November, we’ll keep the House.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
37. I would gladly wear
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:22 PM
Jul 2022

a white ball cap with an upside down U.S. Flag on the front...........

Someone should start producing them (and sell them at Cost vs the outrageous priced MAGA hats that I am sure Trump grifts off a ton of profits.........) (And make them here in the U.S.A. vs some sweat shop in China with children as employees.....)

I'll bet that most MAGGats aren't educated enough to even tell you what an upside down U.S. Flag signifies........

If there ever was a time..........now would be it...............

Emile

(42,289 posts)
33. Jan 6 hearings, social security democratic TV ads, Roe
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 03:59 PM
Jul 2022

and putrid for Trump wing all having an effect.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
69. Don't underestimate the talk of Social Security
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 12:39 AM
Jul 2022

That could be the most important single factor in this shift.

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
40. Macabre part -- covid as selective influence
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jul 2022

The old folks who were die hard Rethugs -- may have died off in larger numbers.

According to this site https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge]

approximately 760,000 deaths in the age group 65+ out of the 1.02 million official covid deaths.

That's a big chunk not including the undercount.

The survivors are probably pissed about the friends that they lost.

Threatening to take away Medicare and social security also a bad move. Dems should pounce on this, because these people will show up to vote to keep SS and Medicare

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
47. But the decrease has happened since May.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jul 2022

Most of the seniors who died of Covid were already dead then.

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
42. Too bad
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jul 2022

the poll comes with trump's picture. I googled it and all the articles come with his picture. I do not post trump's picture ever.

Texin

(2,851 posts)
45. Methinks it could have a lot to do with certain GQP Senators saying they're all in in doing away
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jul 2022

with Social Security and Medicare and that restoring them in the majority will allow them to gut those programs. And being a woman who worked and paid in my fair share of taxes throughout the years, who is herself needing to supplement my income with what I worked my ass off for nearly 40 years for, to hear somebody telling me - a 67 year old woman - that I need to rejoin the labor pool hasn't gone over well. I think it probably has had a pretty chilling and galling effect on a lot of us in that bloc. And I'm old enough to remember when Roe was the law of the land. I never had a Sword of Damocles hanging over my head of such as an unwanted, unplanned pregnancy being forced on me by the goddamned Supreme Court and the equally goddamned Texas lawmakers, et al.

You try telling some 60 to 90+ year old group of voters that they're just going to give up benefits they've had access to and worked for since The New Deal was enacted and go back to work (and where?, Walmart? McDonalds?) WTF what the actual fuck? How else would a voting bloc feel and plan to act when they are being threated with being thrown out onto the streets or into debt prisons which is surely next on the list of the GQP agenda.

dalton99a

(94,117 posts)
54. Republicans are going after the New Deal itself - Social Security and Medicare.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jul 2022

Going backward as far as they can is their goal


Katinfl

(816 posts)
56. Dems have to drive home the fact that the GOP
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jul 2022

Is ready to gut Social Security and Medicare if they take Congress. This is not a scare tactic, it is the truth and the GOP has come right out and said it. But the Dems have to get out and shout it from the rooftop so people are aware of it.

dalton99a

(94,117 posts)
58. +1. When Republicans say anything is "settled", they are lying.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jul 2022

Nothing is safe with Republicans in power


SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
61. How stupid.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jul 2022

Repugs have been threatening to remove SS and Medicare and they still vote for them? Is there any other word other than stupid to describe that?

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
70. Wonder how many over 65 anti-vaxxers are still around?
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 01:25 AM
Jul 2022

repubs must have lost some votes there. I'm assuming most of the leftist old folks (like me ) got vaxxed and survived.

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
79. As a very senior, I'm scared to death that something will happen to dissolve S.S.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jul 2022

I paid for it all my working life and now find myself (a widow) in a very bad situation. If the GOP wins in November, I'll be on welfare. Scares the heck out of me. Work all your life, pay into the system and then be shot to hell.
Who benefits? The rich! With all of us old timers gone, just think of all the goodies (property in particular) that they will pick up at pennies on the dollar.
I'm so sick of it I could scream!

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
81. Rick Scott in this instance being the grim reaper poster child
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jul 2022

Kill entitlements, even though we PAID for them and are therefore very much entitled to those benefits! As I recall, GWB attempted a similar ploy, and despite its eventual demise, the mere notion of having proposed it cost his party dearly with 65+ voters in the 2006 mid-terms.

SouthernLiberal

(408 posts)
82. I am well over 65
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

And I am one of those older folks who have gotten more 'blue' as we get older.

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