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https://www.newsweek.com/gop-senior-voters-polls-midterms-trump-republicans-1726839"The Republican Party has suffered a heavy loss of support from senior voters in recent months, a key demographic for the party in November's midterms and for Donald Trump's presidential ambitions, according to polls.
A recent survey conducted by CNN and the research firm SSRS found that 47 percent of those aged 65 and over said they would vote for a GOP candidate if the midterm congressional election for their district were held "today," with slightly more people aged 65 and over saying they would vote for a Democratic candidate (49 percent).
This is a major turnaround from May, when a previous CNN/SSRS poll found that nearly two-thirds of those aged 65 and over (62 percent) said they would back a Republican candidate in the midterms, compared to just 37 percent of seniors who said they would back a Democratic candidate.
According to the results, the GOP has seen a 15 percent drop in support from those aged 65 and overone of the main demographics in any electionin just two months between the two polls being conducted." ....(more)
tinrobot
(12,062 posts)Seriously, this is good.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Freddie
(10,104 posts)A lot of women my age are really pissed off about the future for our girls.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)MyMission
(2,010 posts)Or remember male family members who fought in that war,
The war to end all wars.
The war against tyranny, fascism and Nazis.
I think many "older" folks see the direction our country is moving in, and understand it's not a good direction. And they understand, or are realizing the importance of country over party.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!
Looks like many won't be fooled again.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)and old folks are the ones who are watching more of the hearings since they've got the time to do it.
Both are causing them to rethink their loyalty to that rotten excuse for a political party.
BonnieJW
(3,124 posts)coming out with his opinion about getting rid of Social security, Medicare and Medicaid didn't win any over 65 hearts either
Warpy
(114,615 posts)They want all the billions going into the stock market, instead. Never mind that everywhere that scheme has been tried, it has failed miserably and they've ended up with o;ld folks who didn't get rich quick in miserable poverty and dependent on the state for a handout.
The USSC abolishing Roe was a wakeup call, I think, people know that the GOP will continue to overreach and try to run this country from the extremist court.
I also think that the next Democratic administration will be forced to expand the court to break their stranglehold. I don't see Congress growing the cojones it would take to remove the extremists for violating their oaths of office and perjuring themselves before the Senate.
soldierant
(9,354 posts)who are not lacking in cojones. There just aren't enough of them, particularly in the Senate. And whose fault is that?
rzemanfl
(31,378 posts)Warpy
(114,615 posts)ChazInAz
(3,017 posts)CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)I know Roe was a big event in my young life. So was Planned Parenthood & having access to BC.
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)Its kinda hard to poll the dead.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)from Covid and it could be enough to swing some elections blue.
MyMission
(2,010 posts)That's 1 million, 27 thousand dead from documented covid, as of July 25, 2022.
And Not all deaths caused by covid were recorded as such, so the number is certainly higher. And odds are those that weren't recorded were rethugs in denial, so some lost votes in that category.
But Not everyone who died was voting age, or registered to vote, or registered with a political party, so the official number doesn't represent quite that many voters (but we can add voters from those who died with unrecorded covid to extrapolate, and remove a portion of non voters.)
If the ratio of deaths is five times greater for them, I'd guestimate that's still probably 600,000 dead rethugs at least, with numbers rising, and I hope closer to 800,000. That number of lost votes, combined with added votes for blue candidates could impact elections in red areas, especially where a few percentage points shifting can change the outcome.
I live in NC where state elections have generally been within 1-2 points. In 2020 we reelected our Dem governor with a higher margin, 51.5/47. But rethug senator won 48.7/46.9, and NC went for tfg by a narrow margin of 49.93/48.59. Both won with less than 50% of the votes. Local elections generally run 60/40 their favor. But I'm sure there are counties across the US where percentages are close enough they can be flipped for local elections.
I have no doubt Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson is very wise.
Joinfortmill
(21,165 posts)machoneman
(4,128 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)HelpImSurrounded
(560 posts)Is this the result of the Jan 6 hearings?
EYESORE 9001
(29,732 posts)to the senior demographic.
Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)repubs hate, hate, hate SS and Medicare. At best, they want to "privatize" them. At worst they just want to outright kill them.
Danascot
(5,232 posts)the GQP wants to get rid of SS and Medicare. Where are they going to hear about it? Fox news?
FSogol
(47,623 posts)nini
(16,830 posts)When it hits your livelihood for retirement they'll wake the hell up.
Though Roe is definitely not helping either.
not fooled
(6,680 posts)just goes to show how poorly informed most voters--including seniors--have been, that seniors didn't realize this before.
I continue to maintain that if the corporate media had adequately informed seniors all along of what the GQPee has been doing to destroy Social Security and Medicare, seniors would have stopped voting for them a long time ago. Hence the plethora of billionaire-funded think-tank drones propagandizing voters into thinking Social Security and Medicare are failing and need to be destroyed. Gotta get the marks to buy into the con.
3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)Then, Landon went on to apply for Social Security.
not fooled
(6,680 posts)to apply for Social Security.
3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)Rebl2
(17,740 posts)I remember when Obama administration was trying to pass ACA, seniors were saying dont touch my Medicare or social security.
gulliver
(13,985 posts)Seniors better think long and hard about just how much boat rocking the boat will take before their retirement incomes and health care go overboard.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!
The radicalized Republican party loves NRA money more than your grandkids and is drooling over the Social Security stockpile.
Baitball Blogger
(52,345 posts)What a winning platform.
NNadir
(38,045 posts)StrkSrviver
(85 posts)The truth about the unequal results of the 2017 tax cuts is starting to get looked at with all the talk of corporate greed. A lot of the younger "boomers " are also turning 65 and there was always a political shift leftward from people born in the mid 40's to people born after rock and roll was.
Takket
(23,715 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)With regard to elections, especially
When the grey hairs team up with the long hairs, its all over. (Meaning young and old)
I have been watching for news of this in the lead-up to mid terms. This makes me happy.
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)and they fly the most flags in the entire country.
This demographic should be known as the paper tigers.
Remember how many shit political hack SC judges were put on the court by BUSH and TRUMP. never forget
radical noodle
(10,595 posts)to the Vietnam War, so perhaps dodging the draft during that time doesn't necessarily look like a big negative to them.
OrlandoDem2
(3,234 posts)RAB910
(4,030 posts)pamdb
(1,439 posts)I've always hated it when the media lumps all us senior citizens (71 and 70 here) into one group
as people who vote republican. All of my friends are seniors and NONE of us vote republican.
I would sooner vote for road kill rather than any republican. We are all pretty much retired librarians, teachers, and municipal employees. The only republican I ever voted for was Gerald
Ford and that was because he was Michigan and frankly, I wasn't paying a lot of attention to
that race. I think I was still in college then.
Mariana
(15,626 posts)There is nothing wrong with saying so.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)There is nothing wrong with stating that, since it is a fact.
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)stand to listen to their stupidity. Most of them make no sense and haven't since 1960. And you might have forgotten the idiots who ran as democrats, got elected, and immediately switched over to the republican party back in about the early 80s. Cheating doesn't make you a leader. Can't stand the republicans.
maxsolomon
(38,727 posts)the truth has an impact.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)If it holds till November, well keep the House.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)Then again, I'm part of the demographic.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)a white ball cap with an upside down U.S. Flag on the front...........
Someone should start producing them (and sell them at Cost vs the outrageous priced MAGA hats that I am sure Trump grifts off a ton of profits.........) (And make them here in the U.S.A. vs some sweat shop in China with children as employees.....)
I'll bet that most MAGGats aren't educated enough to even tell you what an upside down U.S. Flag signifies........
If there ever was a time..........now would be it...............
Emile
(42,289 posts)and putrid for Trump wing all having an effect.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)That could be the most important single factor in this shift.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)Most 65+ don't browse DU.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)trump's picture. Besides how do you don't what 65+ folks browse?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)I expect there are more seniors here than you know.
Pluvious
(5,395 posts)
Didnt result in its own mini Baby Boom
JT45242
(4,043 posts)The old folks who were die hard Rethugs -- may have died off in larger numbers.
According to this site https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge]
approximately 760,000 deaths in the age group 65+ out of the 1.02 million official covid deaths.
That's a big chunk not including the undercount.
The survivors are probably pissed about the friends that they lost.
Threatening to take away Medicare and social security also a bad move. Dems should pounce on this, because these people will show up to vote to keep SS and Medicare
Mariana
(15,626 posts)Most of the seniors who died of Covid were already dead then.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)the poll comes with trump's picture. I googled it and all the articles come with his picture. I do not post trump's picture ever.
Texin
(2,851 posts)with Social Security and Medicare and that restoring them in the majority will allow them to gut those programs. And being a woman who worked and paid in my fair share of taxes throughout the years, who is herself needing to supplement my income with what I worked my ass off for nearly 40 years for, to hear somebody telling me - a 67 year old woman - that I need to rejoin the labor pool hasn't gone over well. I think it probably has had a pretty chilling and galling effect on a lot of us in that bloc. And I'm old enough to remember when Roe was the law of the land. I never had a Sword of Damocles hanging over my head of such as an unwanted, unplanned pregnancy being forced on me by the goddamned Supreme Court and the equally goddamned Texas lawmakers, et al.
You try telling some 60 to 90+ year old group of voters that they're just going to give up benefits they've had access to and worked for since The New Deal was enacted and go back to work (and where?, Walmart? McDonalds?) WTF what the actual fuck? How else would a voting bloc feel and plan to act when they are being threated with being thrown out onto the streets or into debt prisons which is surely next on the list of the GQP agenda.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)dalton99a
(94,117 posts)Going backward as far as they can is their goal
Katinfl
(816 posts)Is ready to gut Social Security and Medicare if they take Congress. This is not a scare tactic, it is the truth and the GOP has come right out and said it. But the Dems have to get out and shout it from the rooftop so people are aware of it.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)I want to see messaging
dalton99a
(94,117 posts)Nothing is safe with Republicans in power
SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)Repugs have been threatening to remove SS and Medicare and they still vote for them? Is there any other word other than stupid to describe that?
czarjak
(13,639 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)repubs must have lost some votes there. I'm assuming most of the leftist old folks (like me
) got vaxxed and survived.
CousinIT
(12,541 posts)Paper Roses
(7,632 posts)I paid for it all my working life and now find myself (a widow) in a very bad situation. If the GOP wins in November, I'll be on welfare. Scares the heck out of me. Work all your life, pay into the system and then be shot to hell.
Who benefits? The rich! With all of us old timers gone, just think of all the goodies (property in particular) that they will pick up at pennies on the dollar.
I'm so sick of it I could scream!
Zambero
(9,990 posts)Kill entitlements, even though we PAID for them and are therefore very much entitled to those benefits! As I recall, GWB attempted a similar ploy, and despite its eventual demise, the mere notion of having proposed it cost his party dearly with 65+ voters in the 2006 mid-terms.
Deep State Witch
(12,716 posts)That's because they found out that Repugs are going after Social Security.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)SouthernLiberal
(408 posts)And I am one of those older folks who have gotten more 'blue' as we get older.