The only thing that will heal this nation is "justice".

[kentuck]

There are people that do not understand anything else. They will lie, rob, and steal until they are brought to justice. It is only then that they will stop their criminal ways.

They must be investigated. They must be subpoenaed. They must be charged. They must stand trial. They must be sentenced. That is the only thing they understand.

Until that happens, we will continue to be plagued by lies and lawlessness.

Nothing will be better until there is accountability.

[unweird]

1. No Justice, No Peace

Sure it’s a slogan but it’s also a meditation on turbulent times such as these.

Ok, enough meditation, book ‘em DanOh.

[Joinfortmill]

23. 👍

[The Magistrate]

2. Indeed, Sir

"Asked whether one should repay evil with good, Master Kung replied 'With what, then, do I repay good? Repay good with good, repay evil with correction.'"

[PittBlue]

3. Brilliant.

[gab13by13]

4. As Rachel Maddow said last night,

the coup is ongoing because people have not been held accountable.

Two weeks ago Trump called a Wisconsin official and asked him to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The Wisconsin legislature is looking into whether they can do that.

In Pa. 3 counties have not certified the May primary election yet.

DOJ did absolutely nothing to stop the pro-Trump fake company, Cyber Ninja fraudit in Arizona.

It is good to see DOJ action against the fake electors, including 2 people from Arizona.

I hope we can overcome a Magat rigged election and prevail in November, we must.

[Bluethroughu]

14. 1000% agree... I shudder to think of a future that normalizes this behavior.

It's a Libertarian dream come true.

[Beachnutt]

5. What's the hold up ?

Crimes in broad daylight and nothing...

[durablend]

8. "You need to be patient"

"These things take time. And sometimes you don't get your ponies"

[infullview]

10. +1

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. Yeah, you really gotta wonder whose side some people are on

and what their motivation is.

[Novara]

18. The impatient people know what they're talking about?

NONE OF US KNOW what the DOJ is doing. Until they do it. I certainly don't. And neither do you. Even the experts were stunned by the Marc Short testimony! The DOJ is damn good at keeping what they're doing secret when they want to keep it secret.

But hey, instead of attacking each other, maybe we should pay attention to what HAS been happening within the justice system: https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/07/16/what-doj-was-doing-while-everyone-was-whinging-doj-wasnt-doing-anything/

This encompasses a lot of different investigations and a lot of different prosecutors, but it's quite a bit. For one thing, I wasn't aware until I read this that the DOJ has several J6 grand juries. So I recommend everybody read it. I think you'll all feel a little bit better after you do. Justice is coming.

[calimary]

17. That's one thing I am frankly sick and tired of hearing.

It’s hard to “just be patient” when “patience” delivers us NO JUSTICE!!!

[sop]

12. Accountability has to begin at the top.

[Bluethroughu]

16. Yes, and let the limited resources work at the local level on the rubes.

[Bluethroughu]

13. It will get worse, if these seditionists are not fully charged

With the crimes they have committed, because some of the citizens believe if they are not charged, then it must of not happened.

People would watch the trials of these traitors, and see it for what it is, the biggest corrdinated attack against the country since the Civil War.

[Roc2020]

15. It's actually Accountability...holding those

responsible in addition to try fixing the harm. Justice is when the wrongdoer (Magats) tries to fix the wrong. Magats and Justice don't mix

[Raster]

19. The Republican Party has not had accountability since Nixon* slithered back to San Clem.

Nixon* should have been impeached and tried and, if the findings warranted, sent to prison.

BIG TRUTH:
They must be investigated. They must be subpoenaed. They must be charged. They must stand trial. They must be sentenced. That is the only thing they understand.

[jaxexpat]

20. One never gets to a grand position of authority and power without cracking "eggs".

In this case we are asking "good people" to take a stand against injustice. These people are being asked to throw the first stones, to commit to a just cause that will damage others. Even though their opponents are truly guilty the probabilities remain that at some time these people will see them, again, in power. Apparently, the dread of that eventuality is great enough to stay their just hand.

Politics is the cutting edge which separates violence from discourse. Where there is fear, regardless of its rationale, it challenges the will to do good. Sufficient anger overcomes fear in the short term. How fearless are our well-spoken public servants? How angry are they? Do they actually even have sufficient means to influence the matter? We'll see.

Is the DOJ compromised? Sure, looks that way and even the suspicion of doubt is not good.

[Joinfortmill]

21. Exactly right.

[Moostache]

22. The world already KNOWS how this turns out...

Germany 1928 - 1933 was not a consensus building, evidence based rise of a political movement...it was thuggery and violence used to maximum effect through fascists fighting communists in the streets and the Nazis rising to power with a minority of the popular vote until "suddenly" Hitler took over and installed his goons.

If the GOP wins control in November, just watch how fast the J6 committee is shoved into a drawer and the Hunter Biden show trial starts... You think they are going to hem and haw? You think they won't force Biden to testify?

The ugliness is known. The ability to stop it is what is slipping through our fingers...

[Baggies]

24. It's all fun and games

Until the other side does it to you.

What is and isn’t viewed as “justice” depends on whether you’re on offense or defense. That’s the problem, but that’s where we are currently.

[kentuck]

27. Fun and games is when crimes are made up of thin air...

..such as Benghazi and "emails"...

An attack upon the Capitol is a horse of another color.

Yes, one side with temporary political advantage can take revenge.

But that does not mean they are both justified.

[Baggies]

28. That may be your definition

It’s not mine.

[kentuck]

29. Which is reality?

Those with power will make the decision.

[Rebl2]

25. Agree totally

[aggiesal]

26. Justice is the light ...

These (R)'s are scurrying into the dark corners hoping they're not caught.
The light will shine on them eventually.

[Higherarky]

30. Well said

.

[kentuck]

32. Very true.

Does that mean that we have to accept it?

[Snackshack]

33. This country...

Has a long history of not holding people accountable, I should clarify. We have a long history of not holding our leaders, accountable for crimes. DT actually being charged would go against precedent. Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr. all got a pass for crimes (Nixon actually got 2). These 3 are just in my lifetime.

If you think about it each one of those Presidents escalated the severity of their crimes. Nixon’s crime was a breaking and entering at the Watergate (setting aside the phones calls made to Vietnam during his campaign.) Reagan’s was arms selling in Iran-Contra. Bush Jr’s was torture, lying us into a war in Iraq. I would argue each of those is worse then the previous one.

DT came along and the roof was blown off. Donald Trump lied about the deadly nature of COVID-19 because he wanted to “play it down” per Bob Woodward tapes… DT went on to do all he could to slow or stop the response to COVID-19 even calling it a “hoax” when thousands were dying every day. Trump was ultimately awarded the title of worst purveyor of COVID-19 misinformation. Over 1 million Americans have died from COVID-19. IMO this is the greatest crime any President has ever committed in the history of this country. Then on January 6th DT in front of the entire world attempted to overthrow our government, possibly the worst crime anyone could do but this was 10x worse because it was the President doing it.

IMO the loss of over a million humans is still DTs worst offense and possibly the reason he attempted the coup in the first place. Hard to think DT had positive thoughts of letting Dems see all his dirty laundry for the last 4 years.

I think this shows pretty clear that when people commit crimes and they are not held accountable they will try it again or someone watching from the sidelines will. Floridas current Governor is paying very close attention rt now…

If DT and his minions are not held accountable then he will try this again. There was story last week that reported DT said openly that he will run in 2024 because getting back into the White House is the only way he can shield himself and his children from the law. That right there should DQ anyone from running for the office I feel.

[kentuck]

34. I think Trump's plan is to run as Third Party, America First candidate...

Just the threat of it will bring all the Republicans under his wing, he believes.

They will have no choice but to accept him as their candidate. He will make them an offer than can't refuse.

[Snackshack]

35. I think you are right.

I don’t think it’s a sure thing that DT would be the republican nominee. He’s burned a bridge or two with them since he snuck out of the WH early so he would likely not want to chance being snubbed by then again.

[Blue Owl]

36. K&R

[Martin Eden]

38. Justice is absolutely necessary, but healing depends on how Rightwingers react

... to TFG being indicted, convicted, and imprisoned.

I'll be surprised if that doesn't spark domestic terrorism.

[Skittles]

39. IS TRUMP ABOVE THE LAW OR ISN'T HE

that to me is the OVERWHELMING question regarding the events of Jan 6