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Nevilledog

(51,198 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:03 PM Jul 2022

New Trump lawyer Emails: "We would just be sending in 'fake' electoral votes to Pence..."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/trump-fake-electors-emails.html

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https://archive.ph/w7TBP

Previously undisclosed emails provide an inside look at the increasingly desperate and often slapdash efforts by advisers to President Donald J. Trump to reverse his election defeat in the weeks before the Jan. 6 attack, including acknowledgments that a key element of their plan was of dubious legality and lived up to its billing as “fake.”

The dozens of emails among people connected to the Trump campaign, outside advisers and close associates of Mr. Trump show a particular focus on assembling lists of people who would claim — with no basis — to be Electoral College electors on his behalf in battleground states that he had lost.

In emails reviewed by The New York Times and authenticated by people who had worked with the Trump campaign at the time, one lawyer involved in the detailed discussions repeatedly used the word “fake” to refer to the so-called electors, who were intended to provide Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Trump’s allies in Congress a rationale for derailing the congressional process of certifying the outcome. And lawyers working on the proposal made clear they knew that the pro-Trump electors they were putting forward might not hold up to legal scrutiny.

“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign.

In a follow-up email, Mr. Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji.

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New Trump lawyer Emails: "We would just be sending in 'fake' electoral votes to Pence..." (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2022 OP
Here's hoping... EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #1
One and a half year later, NYTimes gets emails laying out entire plan. rgbecker Jul 2022 #2
Did the links I provided in the OP not work for you? Nevilledog Jul 2022 #3
Yes, it worked great, and thanks for calling my attention to the article. rgbecker Jul 2022 #7
Kick Nevilledog Jul 2022 #4
And they knew it was illegal yet still participated. SMH. NT SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #5
The lawyer for these lawyers is going to tell them to accept a plea deal Fiendish Thingy Jul 2022 #6
E-mail stands for evidence mail LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #8
This is my Twitter bio background...lol Nevilledog Jul 2022 #9

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
2. One and a half year later, NYTimes gets emails laying out entire plan.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jul 2022

What were they waiting for? Or did they just get these because of the work of the Select Committee?

Read this if there is any doubt in your mind about what this "alternative elector" business was about.

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/trump-fake-electors-emails.html|

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
7. Yes, it worked great, and thanks for calling my attention to the article.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 09:31 PM
Jul 2022

Bests run down of the alternate elector slate I've seen so far.

I felt the need to make sure it was easy to find for everyone...or something.

I subscribe to the online Times, but it is easy to miss some reporting...so much to read. I'm really dependent on the DU to keep me informed of the best on the internet.

Thanks again.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)
6. The lawyer for these lawyers is going to tell them to accept a plea deal
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:58 PM
Jul 2022

With evidence like that, how can you mount any effective defense?

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