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malaise

(296,081 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:59 PM Jul 2022

I was able to walk into a pharmacy in 19fucking72

and purchase birth control pills with a simple prescription from our family doctor.
That is fifty fucking years ago. Seriously- what the fuck is going on in 2022?

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I was able to walk into a pharmacy in 19fucking72 (Original Post) malaise Jul 2022 OP
There was an interview on NPR recently bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #1
Who profits matters malaise Jul 2022 #3
Republican assholery, malaise Diamond_Dog Jul 2022 #2
The batshit and ugly crazy wing of Christianity has taken over the GOP in many states. mn9driver Jul 2022 #4
Praise Almighty Trump, messenger from God! Join our CULT, be saved! RKP5637 Jul 2022 #7
Saved from what, exactly? 2naSalit Jul 2022 #39
Yeah, "Them" ... "Those" ... "The Others" ... n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #53
Actually... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #54
Absolutely!!! "... protection from the cult of morans was what everyone else needs protecting from." RKP5637 Jul 2022 #57
Yeah, yeah... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #58
Other way around. carpetbagger Jul 2022 #8
The Southern Baptist's are conservative, but not necessarily crazy. mn9driver Jul 2022 #9
nd then Ronald Reagan came. LiberalArkie Jul 2022 #21
Fascist authoritarian nation emerges as most people sleep. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #5
I secretly went to Planned Parenthood CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #6
My now wife went to PP while I we were in college in 1981 and received the same. Pepsidog Jul 2022 #10
True story malaise Jul 2022 #11
I was being blackmailed for years CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #38
Because... Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #41
... CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #43
Your life story is very touching. Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #45
I am very alone right now CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #46
((((CountAllVotes)))) dmr Jul 2022 #63
You still have time to be happy malaise Jul 2022 #67
I was in tears reading your post malaise Jul 2022 #64
Wow! CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #74
Tears make us appreciate laughter malaise Jul 2022 #75
+1 CountAllVotes Jul 2022 #76
My Irish Catholic gran was similar. róisín_dubh Jul 2022 #52
Hugs for your mom malaise Jul 2022 #65
That's a great story. Mom is shocked, but relieved at the same time. MineralMan Jul 2022 #59
For my mother the pill was way better than an unmarried pregnancy malaise Jul 2022 #66
She was right, for sure. MineralMan Jul 2022 #70
Me too. MuseRider Jul 2022 #14
Conservative theology. Fuck them. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #12
In Oregon, you can walk directly into the pharmacy Thunderbeast Jul 2022 #13
The prescri[tion was only needed for the first month malaise Jul 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jul 2022 #16
You mean in 20unfucking22? . . . Journeyman Jul 2022 #17
Bwaaaaah😀😀😀 malaise Jul 2022 #26
To make America hate again, we have to go back further IronLionZion Jul 2022 #18
i just see all this is a measure of their opinion of the iq of their base. mopinko Jul 2022 #19
+1. Agreed. You spoke volumes in just a few lines. yonder Jul 2022 #22
pulicans want more serfs. pop growth down. pansypoo53219 Jul 2022 #20
21st Century US version of Lebensborn e V. n/t MarcA Jul 2022 #60
I don't know. Snackshack Jul 2022 #23
Shit is fucked up and bullshit. vanlassie Jul 2022 #24
I know! I first got them in 1967 from Greybnk48 Jul 2022 #25
I keep telling friends that I'm so glad I'm old now malaise Jul 2022 #27
Vote "R" for Reverse Blue Owl Jul 2022 #28
Religious conservatives are actively taking this country back to the stone ages. Initech Jul 2022 #29
Frightening malaise Jul 2022 #30
That may be a defamation of the stone ages. soldierant Jul 2022 #32
White babies. roamer65 Jul 2022 #31
After I had my son in 1969 Grammy23 Jul 2022 #33
Choice malaise Jul 2022 #37
Back in 1967-68, forget exactly which year. halfulglas Jul 2022 #34
Amazing indeed malaise Jul 2022 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jul 2022 #69
I went to the campus quacks chowmama Jul 2022 #35
That's how it should be malaise Jul 2022 #49
It is simply a radical shift that has been nurtured and un-countered for four decades. The cult. n/t Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #36
The backlash against women's movement and equality has never abated dlk Jul 2022 #40
That's it right there malaise Jul 2022 #47
Terrified and selfish dlk Jul 2022 #61
I first went on birth control in 1972. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #42
My first son was born in February, 1971. Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #44
Beyond me too malaise Jul 2022 #48
What is going on? Christofascism. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #50
If these laws threatened to cut into the profits of a drug like Viagra or Oxy, the big pharmacies Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #51
Not only that, in 1972 I was put on the pill for a temporary medical condition. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #55
Very good point malaise Jul 2022 #62
GOP is always against everything... BlueJac Jul 2022 #56
On the bright side, I am now able to walk into a pharmacy and purchase marijuana. Earth-shine Jul 2022 #71
The fact that every adult can have three plants here malaise Jul 2022 #72
In Florida, where I am, it's considered a pharmaceutical and one needs a prescription. Earth-shine Jul 2022 #73

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
1. There was an interview on NPR recently
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jul 2022

and the guy was complaining that when DEA was coming after his poppy seeds, they were also approving the molecules of the opiod crisis for use in medications.

So yeah things that happen make no sense.

mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
4. The batshit and ugly crazy wing of Christianity has taken over the GOP in many states.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jul 2022

The local and state level GOP has been working for decades to be ready for the moment when the Supreme Court legalizes genuine religious insanity as politics and law.

That moment is here. The GOP is acting. Things are going to get Worse if you live in a place where they control most of what goes on.

2naSalit

(102,778 posts)
54. Actually...
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jul 2022

I was pretty tired and I wasn't very clear, I recall struggling for the right way to put it and it didn't work I see.

I meant that protection from the cult of morans was what everyone else needs protecting from.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
57. Absolutely!!! "... protection from the cult of morans was what everyone else needs protecting from."
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jul 2022

carpetbagger

(5,484 posts)
8. Other way around.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jul 2022

As late as 1979 the Southern Baptist Convention opposed government intervention in abortion matters.

mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
9. The Southern Baptist's are conservative, but not necessarily crazy.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jul 2022

The White Christian Nationalist movement that has swept through the evangelical church in the last couple decades is what controls the GOO Christian base now.

They are fucking nuts. And dangerous.

CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
6. I secretly went to Planned Parenthood
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jul 2022

They gave me birth control pills (after a thorough examination).

I did not have to buy them.

I hid them from my parents.

What fun days those were!



malaise

(296,081 posts)
11. True story
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jul 2022

My best friend was pregnant in mid-1971. My very Catholic mother asked me if I was doing what she was doing to get pregnant. I never hid a damn thing from mummy so I laughed and said yes and no since I was using the pill. She pretended to be shocked and later suggested that I have a chat with my youngest sister.

This story still evokes much laughter at family get togethers with the siblings, kids and grandkids.
Dearly departed mum always managed to compartmentalize matters Catholic when it came to her children.😀😀😀

CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
38. I was being blackmailed for years
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 10:58 PM
Jul 2022

I too come from a Catholic background.

My mother became pregnant with a high-risk pregnancy in 1959. My father was one of the first men in America that had a vasectomy. After the procedure, he never went back to get checked to see if it had worked. Well surprise! It didn't. My mother wanted an abortion and begged my father to find money for one. He went to my very Catholic grandmother and all she did was cry and cry and cry.

Hence, my younger brother (who is now deceased due to cancer) was born. He had a myriad of problems that haunted him his entire life. It took all of the money the family had to care for him.

He died the year after my mother did in 2004. I was so glad she went first as I know she would have thought that she had jeopardized the entire livelihood of the family for one person that was now dying/dead.

As for birth control, I remember her saying, "We use the "don't touch me" approach". That didn't work very well did it?

As for taking the pill, she acted as if she was against it due to her Catholicism. What a huge joke!

I became pregnant accidentally in the late '70's. Yes, it happens all of the time even with birth control! I had to list a relative to get an abortion at that time and all I had was my older Republican brother. For years he told my parents he had the "dirt" on me. They wondered what I had done. I finally told them before they died that I had an abortion. I never told them who the father was (it was my late husband). I remember my mother said, "Oh is that all it is? I thought you'd committed a crime or something!". She was not shocked and both of my parents thought I made the right decision being I was only 22 years old and in very poor health at that time and had no way to care or support a child and my boyfriend (who became my husband) wanted nothing to do with it. So the pregnancy was terminated and I was greatly relieved! Today I have very little to do with this same brother. He is a despicable fool and I hate him for what he did to me, to shame me when I needed support.

I couldn't take pill as it gave me high blood pressure so I had to result to draconian measures like using a diaphragm. God do those things ever suck! Do they still exist? Do women still use this method today?

Not everyone could nor can take the pill. I guess there really aren't many new birth control methods out there today some 40+ years later.

You've come a long way baby is really a huge pile o'crap IMO!

As for my alleged "forgiveness" for the abortion I had I realized all I needed to know when my father died. He had a picture of me he carried in his wallet and I was pregnant at that time (very early on, like six weeks). After he died my mother gave me his wallet for some reason. That picture was no longer in his wallet. Where did it go? Why did she throw it away? Was she not being truthful with me? Did she really understand? To this day, I still do not know.

What a sad life I have had in retrospect. I have no regrets about having an abortion but damn my late husband for not being willing to get a vasectomy. He refused to get one and said, "They do not work". What a selfish man he was in too many ways! We had one too many huge arguments about this whole thing over the years. At the end of his very long life, he refused to accept responsibility for this and this plague on our relationship. "Don't touch me" indeed.





CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
43. ...
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:33 PM
Jul 2022

Thank you.

I can use that right now.

The grief over the recent death of my husband has many facets to it.

This is GOOD for me to realize that even though he was a good man, he had his faults. This was certainly one of them!

Take care!



Totally Tunsie

(11,851 posts)
45. Your life story is very touching.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:54 PM
Jul 2022

I hope you have people in your life who can carry you through the sad times and bring you the warmth you need and desire. You've certainly earned the compassion.

Peace.

CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
46. I am very alone right now
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:41 AM
Jul 2022

When my husband died 2 months ago, he left me with nothing. Zero.

Given the very nature of that relationship, I was very isolated. He wanted to own me but he didn't.

I remember not long before he died I'd been out late one night with an old friend and he said to me the next day, "I thought you you were never coming home".

I replied, "Of course I was going to come home. Where else was I going to go?".

I'm trying to meet new people and make friends but it is difficult.

Life is one day at a time for me.

I feel lucky to have my three cats. I am never alone as long as they are around. I never thought I'd end up in this situation, never.

I often wonder how he would feel had he known I'd end up with nothing after 44 years of me taking care of him.

I think he was sick for a very long time, much longer than I had realized or cared to recognize.

Its over now and definitely time to move on no doubt.

I have no idea what I will do but I've managed to make a few decisions.

One of the biggest ones is that being none of his relatives that have stepped up to help during or after his sickness and death are almost nil; many of them are millionaires. Some family! Do I really want anything at all to do with any of them? Answer: Hell no!

Thanks for your compliment. I do appreciate it more than you'll ever know!

dmr

(28,705 posts)
63. ((((CountAllVotes))))
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

Your posts touched me. Truly, they did. Too bad you don't live up here in Michigan. We could get together over coffee, tea, wine, beer, or even apple juice, and talk the day away

But since you live so far away, here's a heartfelt hug to you from me.

malaise

(296,081 posts)
64. I was in tears reading your post
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jul 2022

Women have had it hard.
My mother had fifteen pregnancies and seven live births.
She wished she had options, but as you said, they didn’t and don’t work for everyone. Still I like having a choice.

CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
74. Wow!
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jul 2022

That is intense! Fifteen!

I know a man from a family of nineteen. He is a friend of my late husband. All were live births best I know. Another Catholic family as well.

I've never been big on Catholicism.

At my husband's funeral (which was in a Catholic Church) the priest opened up with a sermon on love and that being there was love, it is love between two people that causes babies to be born. Sometimes that is true, other times it is not!



I almost lost it after that but luckily the whole thing did not last long.

Its a shame that we are even having this discussion in the year 2022 isn't it?

It was not my intent to bring you to tears but I've had some sad shit happen to me in my too long of a life.

I guess what really did it was seeing how it was in the end.

No help nor support at all from his very large family with millionaires in it.

I'd be ashamed frankly if it was own child in the position I was in, relying on a totally disabled woman with MS trying to pay for and deal with the entire thing with no help at all. My disability check is just over $1000 a month. I cannot collect his being he got less than I do (he received $660 a month). At least I know where the cards lay now. As I wrote earlier, they can all fuck off!

It was a hell of a way to learn this lesson that I needed to learn.

Thank you for your kind words and I thank everyone else that replied as well.

May the Force Be With all of us!



malaise

(296,081 posts)
75. Tears make us appreciate laughter
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jul 2022

I have no problem crying. Sometimes it’s needed.
Dad wasn’t Catholic and used to question how people with no relationships had so much to say on the subject. I agreed with him.
I started questioning religion early and abandoned it as a young adult.

róisín_dubh

(12,336 posts)
52. My Irish Catholic gran was similar.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jul 2022

Openly and lovingly accepted her gay son, knew her daughter had an abortion and helped my sister when she was pregnant at 19.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
59. That's a great story. Mom is shocked, but relieved at the same time.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jul 2022

My long-time high school girlfriend's mother figured out that the two of us were fooling around. She was not pleased, but gave her daughter a supply of condoms. That was back in 1963, in California, were contraceptives were not available for purchase by anyone under the age of 21. Pre-birth control pills, too.

Reality comes first in the list of priorities, it seems.

Thunderbeast

(3,818 posts)
13. In Oregon, you can walk directly into the pharmacy
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:39 PM
Jul 2022

No doctor's scrip needed. Pharmacist will do the necessary health screening and consult.

Any other state implemented this reform?

Response to Thunderbeast (Reply #13)

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
18. To make America hate again, we have to go back further
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:57 PM
Jul 2022

to when it wasn't so great for some Americans

mopinko

(73,723 posts)
19. i just see all this is a measure of their opinion of the iq of their base.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jul 2022

they're throwing out bullshit, and the bases is screaming for more.
and they're totally blind to both hypocrisy and irony.
lies cost nothing. why wouldnt they throw out bigger and bigger ones.

yonder

(10,293 posts)
22. +1. Agreed. You spoke volumes in just a few lines.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jul 2022

I don't see anything to stop their MO except elections....and they're working tirelessly to fix those in their favour also.

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
23. I don't know.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jul 2022

What do you think is going on?

I will tell you what I think.

I think a small group of very deep (albeit ill-conceived) religious zealots have spent millions over decades to get Roe repealed and now that they got that they are going after contraception then gay marriage just as Thomas spoke of in his opinion. But first they have to kill abortion nationally as long as there are Blue states offering it and corporations (for now) paying for travel.

As long as the current religious juggernaut is allowed to do as it pleases one can only guess what would be next if they got the items above terminated. Inter-racial marriage? Laws demanding conversion/attendance…just how far do we let what is a small but very well connected group impose their beliefs on the rest of us?

Greybnk48

(10,723 posts)
25. I know! I first got them in 1967 from
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jul 2022

a military doc at my husband's CG base. We married at 19 y/o because of Viet Nam. The last thing we needed at that point was a baby.

I can't imagine having to navigate this country today.

malaise

(296,081 posts)
27. I keep telling friends that I'm so glad I'm old now
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jul 2022

I’d hate to be young in this mess and not just in the US

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
32. That may be a defamation of the stone ages.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jul 2022

Just because their tools were not sophisticated doesn't mean they were necessarily judgmental of women.

In Greece as recently as the 5th century BC if a baby was not wanted, they put it into a clay pot and put it u on the mountainside, the theory being that a rich and childless woman would come tp the well-known site ans choose your unwanted babies out of all the babies up there. Which they knew was malarkey, but had to have something to tell themselves. (And they really didn't have the technology for safe abortion.)

Grammy23

(6,122 posts)
33. After I had my son in 1969
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jul 2022

I went to my doctor for my 6 week check up. Without asking me, he recommended birth control pills since he knew we were poor as Job’s turkey and the last thing we needed was another baby in 9 months. So I went on birth control pills and our first son remained our only child until I had a hysterectomy 18 years later, thus ending my child bearing years. We were hounded endlessly for most of those 18 years about when we were going to have another baby. It was our choice to have one child. The birth control pills helped make that choice possible.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
34. Back in 1967-68, forget exactly which year.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 09:01 PM
Jul 2022

The OB-GYN department at a Catholic hospital where I worked had one of the original doctors behind the Pill as the honored (paid) speaker at their annual lecture series. Paid him, his airfare, hotel bill, etc. Now it's hard to get your tubes tied at some Catholic hospitals.

Response to halfulglas (Reply #34)

chowmama

(1,096 posts)
35. I went to the campus quacks
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 09:20 PM
Jul 2022

around the same time. (That's what we called them.) Everybody knew to complain about pain and/or irregular periods, and I had my story straight.

Met with a nurse prac, who never asked word one about anything. Came back with a scrip for me. And I never had a problem with any local pharmacist, either.

They were good people. I never had to tell my parents anything. Funny, I don't remember it costing that much, either - at least, I never had a problem, even with only a part-time job and full-time school. Did it cost less, then? I remember having more trouble later, with a full-time job.

malaise

(296,081 posts)
49. That's how it should be
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 07:46 AM
Jul 2022

We did’nt spend enough time telling our young about the fight for our rights.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
36. It is simply a radical shift that has been nurtured and un-countered for four decades. The cult. n/t
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 09:22 PM
Jul 2022

dlk

(13,247 posts)
40. The backlash against women's movement and equality has never abated
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:15 PM
Jul 2022

And now it has been seriously ramped up by Republicans

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
42. I first went on birth control in 1972.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:27 PM
Jul 2022

I was a college student at the time and was able to get my pills from the student health service. For free. (Actually, it was covered by a fee that all full time students paid to cover health services; but there were no additional charges for individual services or medications.)

The health service added a gynecology clinic the same year, also free. I think my school may gave been ahead of the curve on things like that, although I didn't realize it at the time!

Totally Tunsie

(11,851 posts)
44. My first son was born in February, 1971.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 11:45 PM
Jul 2022

In July the same year, this Catholic girl was told by her Jewish OBGYN that Baby #2 was on the way. His first words to me were "What would you like to do about this? You have choices." His implication was clear, but fortunately unnecessary, as I was really quite excited to be having another, which was later amplified since #2 was another son. It was my dream family and has never disappointed. I was lucky. For another woman in differing circumstances, this could have been devastating. (Yes, I went on the pill after son #2.)

How sad and pathetic that choices readily available in 1971 are outlawed 51 years later. It's beyond my wildest nightmares that this could happen. I cry for our country.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
51. If these laws threatened to cut into the profits of a drug like Viagra or Oxy, the big pharmacies
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jul 2022

and pharmaceutical companies would be pushing back.

If these companies wanted to push back on these laws, they could. Hell, they own half of the legislators in Congress, and doubtless the same percent of state legislators. Which gives them the clout to push legislators if they want to.

Instead, they are doing everything they can to avoid the "possible" "threat" of lawsuits.

Because it's about women.

We should not be patronizing these places like CVS and Walmart who are lying down and exposing their bellies for pats from the Christofascists.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
55. Not only that, in 1972 I was put on the pill for a temporary medical condition.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jul 2022

There are more reasons for the pill than just birth control.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
71. On the bright side, I am now able to walk into a pharmacy and purchase marijuana.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 08:18 PM
Jul 2022

And that can lead to the need for birth control pills.

malaise

(296,081 posts)
72. The fact that every adult can have three plants here
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jul 2022

means that very few folks visit ganja stores. Truth is there were more potted weed plants around when it was illegal 😀😀😀
I ran into an old friends niece and she said she and a friend were running a ganja business complete with home deliveries and nicely packaged. You do have a point - more weed, more babies😀😀

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
73. In Florida, where I am, it's considered a pharmaceutical and one needs a prescription.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jul 2022

I'm grateful for what I've got.

Peace.

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