Hunter Biden

[superpatriotman]

The right and the cult is actively trying to deflect to him and his ‘laptop’ as a lynchpin across their media and talking points in what feels like a coordinated hit campaign on the President.

How do you (we) properly shoot down the allegations, disinformation, bullshit?

I’ve had heated arguments with folks and simply said “he’s not in politics” but that doesn’t matter.

They’re in the WSJ opinion page, the Moonie Times, calling for a Special Counsel etc. and the campaign seems to be heating up and it’s not going away. It’s making me crazy.

Your cogent thoughts, please.

[gab13by13]

1. Barr made John Durham a special counsel,

and Barr put in guardrails so he couldn't be fired.

I would hope that at some point Durham should step down, but he is full steam ahead.

[Samrob]

16. Just re-divert to Kushner collecting 2 billion from the Saudis. GOP is using Hunter to divert from

Kushner and the Saudis.

[jimfields33]

2. I don't understand why one has anything to do with the other

It doesn’t matter if both are investigated. It has no baring on trumps case. It shouldn’t matter or effect anything.

[Botany]

3. Hunter Biden and his lap top is a Russian produced talking point.

A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.

This is from the Republican run Senate Intel Committee:

Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

[MerryBlooms]

19. 💯

[GoCubsGo]

22. Yes, and the right pulls him out EVERY fucking time they need a distraction.

It's like clockwork.

[Botany]

23. The Hunter Biden "laptop scandal" has been debunked many times over.

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so Hunter's laptop wound up in a computer repair shop in N.J. that he had never gone to, Hunter lives
in CA, the owner of the shop did not know anything about the computer, somehow it was discovered,
and it was loaded with some kind of nefarious information which Rudy G. talked about at press conference.

The REPUBLICANS ON THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE HAVE PUBLICLY SAID THAT HUNTER'S LAPTOP
IS A RUSSIAN PRODUCED TALKING POINT. I wish we had a press who would call them out for
selling Russian disinformation.

At one time we had some very good Americans both men and women who were republicans but those
days are long gone and they now live and breath "the big lie theory." “If you tell a lie big enough and
keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

I saw them do this in 2004 w/John Kerry who had 3 purple hearts, a bronze star, a silver star and
didn't loose one man doing some of the most dangerous duty in Vietnam.

[superpatriotman]

24. Does a laptop exist?

If not, why isn't IT DOESN'T EXIST work to immediately shut down the talking point?

[Rstrstx]

31. One possibility

Is that someone, probably in Eastern Europe, managed to hack his laptop and make a ghost image of the hard drive, then it was purchased and passed on to Giuliani, who came up with the ridiculous cover story.

Nobody credibly investigating him references the laptop because they realize it stinks to high heaven. His defense lawyer could only dream of a prosecutor stupid enough to bring any material found on the “laptop” up in court.

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. And there it is. Thanks for putting this up. We have not heard the last

of this completely NON story just like Hillary and her emails non story.

BTW folks, if someone brings up Hunter they are traitors. They are promoting RUSSIAN propaganda.

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. Hunter Biden trending?

Usually means bad news is coming for Trump.

Stay tuned.

[stevil]

5. This is how I feel-

It's hot air designed to raise questions with ridiculous answers. Don't fall for it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. Continue pointing out he wasn't in politics, and add that Jared and Ivanka were

and Jared spent his time in the White House getting Saudi (remind them of the bone saw) investment for his private company. Point out that even the Saudi auditors said they shouldn't invest, but Crown Prince Mohammed Bone Saw overruled them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805

Remind them of the legal troubles the Trump Corporation is in, with lying to tax authorities and banks about their assets.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/19/1074000357/new-yorks-attorney-general-says-trumps-company-misled-banks-tax-officials

Bring up the connections of the Trump children to Azerbaijan and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/donald-trump-baku-iran-revolutionary-guard/

[pwb]

7. It don't mean nothin. Ignore it all.

People are on to the "look over here" diversions.

[Walleye]

8. I would say laugh at them and tell them it smells like desperation.

[gab13by13]

10. I totally agree.

[MichMan]

9. Any legal issues of Hunter have absolutely nothing to do with President Biden

Joe has said multiple times that they have never spoken to each other regarding Hunter and his business activities. Period.

Whatever the media does is irrelevant.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Presidents have been collaterally attacked via their siblings and children in the past.

Jimmy Carter - His brother, Billy Carter, was in legal jeopardy for being an unregistered foreign agent to Libya.

Richard Nixon - Brothers Donald and Edward Nixon. Shady business deals. https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,911157,00.html

Dwight Eisenhower - Brother Milton. Justified internment of Japanese-Americans. http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5153

George H.W. Bush - Son, Neal. Silverado Savings & Loan Scandal. Huuuge government bail-out.

Hunter Biden is just another distraction. Nothing consequential happened to the cited Presidents.

[Bayard]

12. Squirrel!!

This has already been investigated to death, and nothing was found. Although, if rethugs get the House back, they will definitely beat that nag to death 10 times.

I say, if you want to look at real criminality in a president's family, let's investigate Jared and Ivanka. Oh, wait--that might look like its politically motivated.

[Mad_Machine76]

20. Like Hunter Biden

Isn’t political?!

[Caliman73]

25. Looks like sarcasm to me.

Sure we have the sarcasm smiley but that one was kind of obvious.

[Mad_Machine76]

27. I hope so

because I was laying it on pretty thick.

[lees1975]

13. "Investigation" is a catch word

Hunter Biden is "under investigation." For what? In most discussions I have, we only get to the investigation part. That gives the right talking points to throw in speculation, but up to this point, most have no idea what he is under investigation for.

He worked for a Ukrainian company, motivation enough for Russian propaganda to be involved. My response is that we can continue the discussion when you know what you're talking about by 1) knowing exactly what he is under investigation for, 2) that whatever it is is illegal, and 3) that whatever it is has anything to do with President Biden. So far, they are zero on all three of those.

[Moostache]

14. Counter attack Javanka

Put their graft on 24/7 and then hold hearings on their crimes

[TheBeam19]

15. Ignore it. You're not going to talk sense into them

and no amount of logic and reason will matter.

All you’re doing is playing their game. Don’t take the bait.

And you might also say, “I understand you’re upset about the President’s son, but you’re not going to storm the Capitol, are you?”

[JustAnotherGen]

17. My cogent thoughts?

November 2022 is just around the corner - and we vote too.

We shut them down by winning the midterms and keeping our majorities.

They are distracting us from voting.

[cbabe]

21. But ivanka's emails!

[DoUListenWhenUHear]

26. Chain of Evidence Broken at first link

For some reason, everyone seems to have chosen to overlook why this story was completely ignored even by Right Wing media groups when it first broke -- the chain of evidence is broken at the first link. The repair shop owner that Hunter supposedly brought the hard drives and laptop to be repaired cannot testify under oath that Hunter was the person who dropped them off. Why? Because he is legally blind and cannot identify who gave him the items.

If you cannot say for sure that Hunter gave you his laptop to be repaired, then anyone could have done it. If the police get a letter that says it is from you and that you are admitting that you killed someone and the letter tells them where the body is buried, should that be considered evidence enough that you were definitely the killer? Of course not.

Also, the repair guy chose to go through the mail and videos of Hunter...files that had nothing to do with getting the hardware to work. These were NOT system files. He had no right to look into them.

Delaware law also says that the laptop could not be considered abandoned until a year after the shop first attempted to contact Biden to let him know that his computer was ready for pickup. Biden supposedly dropped it off in April of 2020. The shop owner had given it to Rudy by Sept. of 2020.

These reasons were why the media as a whole refused to run the story before the election.

[superpatriotman]

28. So where is it?

Does Rudy have it?

[marble falls]

30. It's a plate of meh. It's diversion by charactor assasination. Our real concern is 45.

[Brainfodder]

32. I pay zero attention to his issues, he is not President or in our government.

Remind them of all the Trump Organization malarkey and other scandals.

His laptop is a load of crap, the data on it's HD was easy as hell to make copies of and then the laptop doesn't matter.

Anyone can make a copy of their drives using cloning/imaging software, I've now done it successfully a dozen times this year even.

[question everything]

33. Except, they, at least the WSJ columnist, are talking about the "Biden family corruption"

I think that all the comments and links posted on this thread are important, but just dismiss it as "not in politics" will not be enough.

If we can prove that the laptop - was it really Hunter's? - is a plant, then everything that comes from it is a lie and a distraction.

[rogue emissary]

34. Keep it simple.

It's not enough to say he's not in politics. He's never been in any of Biden's administrations, period.

Evan if they had credible accusations against him. That has nothing to do with his father.