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kpete

(72,901 posts)
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:05 AM Jul 2022

Awful Speeches At Mom's Funeral: "They beat you with a wooden spoon & snidely emasculate you, too."

Why are the younger Trumps so awful? Did you hear the speeches at Ivana’s funeral?
Arwa Mahdawi

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Let’s start with the eldest: Donald Jr. The warm memory of his mother that he chose to recount at her funeral? The time she disciplined him so hard she had to stop from exhaustion. Once, when they were kids, said Donald Jr, his sister Ivanka accidentally destroyed an expensive chandelier. Ivanka – it will shock you to hear – lied and said it was her brother’s fault; Ivana then pulled out a wooden spoon to teach Donald Jr a lesson. He kept insisting that Ivanka was the responsible party, but, by the time he had finally convinced his mother of his innocence, she was “too tired to deal with Ivanka”. (To be fair, he didn’t say explicitly that she hit him with the spoon; maybe she just tickled him with it.)

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Ivanka’s eulogy, meanwhile? She talked about her mother telling her to wear shorter skirts. A bit odd, but not nearly as weird as the contribution from Dorothy Curry, a former nanny to Ivanka, Donald Jr and Eric. In a very dark speech, Curry talked about Ivana’s life becoming a “sinking swamp [of] parasites”.

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I am not saying all this because I want everyone to feel sorry for the Trump-Kushners, by the way. I just think it explains a lot. If these kids had had a few more hugs, the world might have been spared the worst of their shenanigans.

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https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/26/why-are-the-younger-trumps-so-awful-did-you-hear-the-speeches-at-ivanas-funeral
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Awful Speeches At Mom's Funeral: "They beat you with a wooden spoon & snidely emasculate you, too." (Original Post) kpete Jul 2022 OP
There is a book about Jared and Ivanka that I read FelineOverlord Jul 2022 #1
The whole family is a psychological nightmare. hlthe2b Jul 2022 #2
She apparently didn't whack Junior enough Bayard Jul 2022 #3
I agree with you to some degree geardaddy Jul 2022 #19
Totally agree. I particularly remember the f*ing hairbrush. Brutal. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #24
Yes, right on the back of the thigh for us. geardaddy Jul 2022 #25
I have lots of sympathy for the small children they were. Beating kids doesn not make better people. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #26
Maybe they just learned at an early age to lie and blame everyone else Meadowoak Jul 2022 #4
... Lucinda Jul 2022 #5
Sounds like a family JD Vance would love. Nt spooky3 Jul 2022 #6
I think JD Vance would have a hard time with this since they didn't stay married MagickMuffin Jul 2022 #9
I refuse to let that excuse them 867-5309. Jul 2022 #7
even with fucked up parents... Javaman Jul 2022 #8
The wealth is the explanation. With wealth, you ... Whiskeytide Jul 2022 #11
If you have enough money you might not notice that you're miserable Ocelot II Jul 2022 #15
+1 geardaddy Jul 2022 #22
If they'd used a few more condoms, we'd be blessed RainCaster Jul 2022 #10
Ha! Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #23
The family's like the Habsburgs. nt Tommy Carcetti Jul 2022 #12
Or the Medicis. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #13
Or Borgias. ret5hd Jul 2022 #14
Or Khans Higherarky Jul 2022 #16
I think they much more resemble the Hatfields of Mingo county Torchlight Jul 2022 #17
Exactly Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #21
My mom called the wooden spoon geardaddy Jul 2022 #18
They don't know enough not to bash the dead at their funeral? Jeez, no words for this. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #20

FelineOverlord

(3,851 posts)
1. There is a book about Jared and Ivanka that I read
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:12 AM
Jul 2022

If I remember correctly, one of the reasons Ivanka was eager to marry Jared is because his family was relatively close. The Trump kids didn’t get much real affection from either one of their parents.

I also remember that one of Trump’s ghostwriters spent time with the family, and while he didn’t like the Trump offspring, he also felt they suffered from a form of Stockholm Syndrome.

hlthe2b

(113,868 posts)
2. The whole family is a psychological nightmare.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jul 2022

and one in which there are no real "survivors," I believe. Some less culpable, less horrible, but all touched by their sociopathy. Only Mary Trump seems to be outside this disgusting pattern.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
19. I agree with you to some degree
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jul 2022

but having been punished with a wooden spoon as a child (as well as the back of a hair brush) I really wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Joinfortmill

(21,104 posts)
26. I have lots of sympathy for the small children they were. Beating kids doesn not make better people.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jul 2022

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
4. Maybe they just learned at an early age to lie and blame everyone else
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jul 2022

And play the victim card. I can't imagine where they got those traits.

MagickMuffin

(18,315 posts)
9. I think JD Vance would have a hard time with this since they didn't stay married
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:04 AM
Jul 2022


JD is against divorce.

It'll made his head spin.



Javaman

(65,686 posts)
8. even with fucked up parents...
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jul 2022

a person gets to a point when they realize something is off in their own life and seeks out therapy.

growing up in a fucked up family myself, I realized "hmm, all my relationships are fucked up, I have anger issues, I don't let anyone get close to to me....I think I need lots of therapy".

the trump asshole spawn chose instead, because of money and greed, to continue to play the victim.

and here we are.

Whiskeytide

(4,655 posts)
11. The wealth is the explanation. With wealth, you ...
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jul 2022

… can usually get what you think you want even if you’re an asshole. In fact, it sort of encourages you to be an asshole. The rest of us have to kind of learn to get along with other people in order to accomplish things and find some happiness.

None of these people can even begin to understand that you have to be a good friend to have good friends.

Ocelot II

(130,462 posts)
15. If you have enough money you might not notice that you're miserable
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jul 2022

because you can distract yourself with all the goodies that wealth brings, and you have the wherewithal to control other people, at least up to a point. So you can fool yourself into thinking that your life is wonderful even though it isn't.

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