The Forward Party???

[apcalc]

Here we go….is Yang the new Ralph Nader? The new Jill Stein?
In other words… is he the guy who may siphon votes from us and cost us more elections?

God help us.

[msongs]

1. will he be like trump and use a party to channel millions to himself? nt

[leftstreet]

2. I think he's just trying to grind out the rent

Their new "party" has no policies, nothing.

But that won't stop them from raising money.

[RKP5637]

3. As I understand many in this new party are Trump's old people. WTF!!! n/t

[Victor_c3]

8. A lot of Reagan-ites and bush-ites too

I haven’t seen any Democrats.

Maybe it’ll be a party for non-trumper republicans and siphon votes from the right?

We’ll have to wait and see

[RKP5637]

11. 2022 and 2024 are going to be pretty frustrating. n/t

[apcalc]

17. We can hope...

[karynnj]

4. Consider he was far less "interesting" running for mayor than running for President

and he did not wear well running for President. What other that a guaranteed income interested people?

Not to mention, in a party of mostly mainstream Republicans, how would he fare? He would be this decades Ron Paul.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Two poopers don't make a party

Don’t you need a movement first? Like Magats. There could be a Magat party. But this? It’s nothing but vapor and fog and fundraising schemes.

[Bev54]

6. Tim Miller of the Bulwark has written a good article about this so called new party

https://www.thebulwark.com/so-you-want-to-start-a-third-party/

[JHB]

21. I'd rather promote liberal bloggers who've flagged every version of this scam in real time

https://driftglass.blogspot.com/2022/07/now-is-time-for-all-good-men-to-send.html

Now Is The Time For All Good Men To Send Money To My Potemkin Party


Here is Andrew Yang announcing his Whig II: Electric Boogaloo party in Reuters, July 27, 2022 (emphasis added)

The new party, called Forward and whose creation was first reported by Reuters, will initially be co-chaired by former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang and Christine Todd Whitman, the former Republican governor of New Jersey. They hope the party will become a viable alternative to the Republican and Democratic parties that dominate U.S. politics, founding members told Reuters.

In an interview, Yang said the [Forward Party] will start with a budget of about $5 million. It has donors lined up and a grassroots membership between the three merged groups numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

"We are starting in a very strong financial position. Financial support will not be a problem," Yang said.

And yet less than 48 hours later, having taken no position on any issue and having accomplished absolutely nothing except a massive friendly-media and social media hard sell of their political vaporware, they already have their hands out asking credulous rubes for their hard earned coin.

***
Because no matter how smooth the con man is and no matter how mesmerizing the patter, sooner or later (in this case, much sooner), they get to the point.

Money
***
Give me your money and I will help make all your dreams will come true.

[mopinko]

7. i hope someone is following the money

cuz inquiring minds want to know.

[Skittles]

9. who?

[Murphyb849]

10. This is GOP Lite.

[LeftInTX]

20. Yep!

[brush]

12. Yes he is. What a sore loser. Couldn't win the Dem presidential...

nomination nor the mayoralty of NY so he starts another party to get back at Dems.

It's so obvious.

And he'll be shunted to the side as the party will be dominated by never trumpers mostly.

[mcar]

13. Call me when they start running people for

county commission, city council, school board, and state legislature.

Otherwise, yes, they are trying to siphon votes away from Democrats.

[ancianita]

14. Bet 7 million voters ain't going for that one.

[2naSalit]

15. No thanks.

[dlk]

16. With our democracy at a critical juncture, peeling off Democratic votes is destructive to our future

Their timing couldn't be worse.

[JHB]

18. It's another incarnation of the center-right fantasy to have it all without the crazies

The last time this sort of idea was floated, they were looking to have Bloomberg headline it. Even earlier, David Brooks fantasized about a "McCain-Lieberman Party". The only reason this one exists is because Yang funded it, and it barely exists as anything more than a name, Twitter account, and press release.

They don't even have a program, except "Something like having Tip & Ronnie at the head of America circa 2005? Wouldn't that be great?!"

Its constituency appears to be newspaper columnists, beltway media, and a few non-MAGA "ex" Republicans. It gets its name from the inane "not left or right, but forward" stand-in for reasoning that is the epitome of "Both Siders". It's always the "extremes of the Left AND the Right", as if they were equivalent, and not one being a somewhat restive faction of the electorate and the other being the Raving Monster Loony Party out to overthrow the Republic.

It's much too far right to get much draw from the Greenies and Steinbots. I'm not sure where the Democrats would lose people. except maybe Yang's fan club. But a separate party is different from supporting a guy's primary run, so that's not clear either.

[LeftInTX]

19. It's a center party. They want to attract moderate Dems

They want to attract Joe Manchin voters.
They want to attract Hispanics
They want to attract blue dog Dems.

BTW: We had a Dem Hispanic state rep switch parties to GOP.

[JHB]

24. It's a center-RIGHT party. They want "centrists" and "non-MAGA Republicans" who will never vote for

...Democrats. They're not going to get them if there's anything more than an ineffectual token for "liberals welcome too, I guess".

Look at the groups you named.

Center-right.

[BlueIdaho]

22. He should have calculated the odds

Of an independent party showing up once every four years and hoping to capture the White House without a deep and active ground game in most states. He’s a math guy, he should know it’s a virtual impossibility.

[JHB]

25. What makes you think he hasn't?

It's yet another "give us your money" scam.

[BlueIdaho]

27. This

Silly me. Yang learned the biggest lesson of campaigning - its not whether you win or lose, it’s how much free money you can drum up.

[Mosby]

23. The US version of Kadima.

The קדימה (forward) party brought together disaffected voters from Labor and Likud.

Eta Labor is liberal and Likud is conservative.

[themaguffin]

26. No doubt grifting + GOP funds to hurt Dems

[EndlessWire]

28. Name conflict

I suppose because they are in different businesses, it doesn't matter, but there is a new physician group advertising themselves as "Forward." They predate this party announcement by weeks or months. I imagine they are probably not too happy to to see their name taken over.

It happens. I hope they are not associated. They are a preventive medicine group with interesting marketing.

[AntivaxHunters]

29. Yang's party is NOT a threat to Democrats

It's a threat to Libertarians, Republicans, and other conservative parties.
His base is NOT made up of Democrats but rather "crypto bro" Libertarians and Conservative Capitalists.
His base is young and was built on sites like 4Chan.

No Democrat anything watches people like Dave Rubin.
If I was Republicans I would be very worried because he's going to take a lot of the votes away from the alt-right Kek crowd.
I can't stand Yang. Just ugh! No.