Breaking: Biden has tested positive for COVID again (per MSNBC)

[Celerity]

rebound positivity

[Midnight Writer]

1. Not unexpected.

This is normal for Covid recovery, but I'm sure conservative media will make a big deal out of it.

[dweller]

2. Repugs

discussing 25th yet ?
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[W_HAMILTON]

3. Does that just mean he had a false negative?

From when he tested negative recently after his bout with COVID?

Or does it mean he caught it again?

[Celerity]

4. they are saying the data points overwhelmingly to a rebound infection, not false negatives

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[W_HAMILTON]

5. Damn, that's crazy that you can get reinfected that quickly.

[yardwork]

6. It's this new variant.

[robodruid1]

8. Covid is weird

[agingdem]

10. it's not that uncommon..

In December I tested positive..I had real symptoms, not mild but tolerable...recovered within a week and tested negative.. I was good to go for about 72 hours..I felt a like cold was coming on except it wasn't a cold, but this this time symptoms were mild..I've since had the second booster, wear my mask every time I go out..not real keen an getting it again...

[LisaL]

14. He is not re-infected.

It's a rebound, not new infection.

[W_HAMILTON]

24. I'll have to read more about it, but I'm not understanding right now.

Either he hadn't cleared the original infection fully -- which I would consider a false negative on his test -- or he got infected again. It does sound like it is what they are calling a "rebound," but I would take that to mean that he got a false negative. Maybe the false negative was because tests aren't sensitive enough to pick up the smaller amount of virus he had in his system before it "rebounded," which is fair, but I would still say that is a false negative in that it showed he had cleared his original infection, when, in fact, he apparently had not.

[Ms. Toad]

27. It is apparently tied to taking paxlovid.

One theory for what’s allowing rebound is that the drug wipes out most of the virus before the body has a chance to recognize what’s happening and build up its full immune arsenal. If there are little pockets that manage to survive the treatment, they can start replicating again once the course of Paxlovid is finished.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/07/30/biden-tests-positive-for-covid19-again-in-paxlovid-rebound/#:~:text=Pfizer's%20clinical%20trials%20showed%20rebound,the%20rate%20could%20be%20higher.

[BlackSkimmer]

21. Yeah, I don't find that very reassuring.

I was vaxxed twice and boosted once. Sick every time.

I'm not doing another booster.

[BlackSkimmer]

11. Yikes.

Scary.

[LisaL]

13. Rebound, not new infection.

NT

[Celerity]

17. fixed

[Emrys]

12. No. It means his illness is following a known pattern.

Read the PDF linked by blogslug downthread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16984735

[LisaL]

15. Yes, Dr. Fauci also had a rebound.

NT

[mvd]

7. No new symptoms

Just rebound positivity. But thankfully it appears the President has fought off the virus.

[blogslug]

9. Here is an article

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-tests-positive-covid-paxlovid-rebound-doctor-says-rcna40791

"After testing negative on Tuesday evening, Wednesday morning, Thursday morning and Friday morning, the President tested positive late Saturday morning, by antigen testing. This in fact represents 'rebound' positivity," wrote White House physician Dr. Kevin O’Connor.

Biden, 79, has not experienced any re-emergence of symptoms and continues to feel well, O'Connor said. "This being the case, there is no reason to reinitiate treatment at this time, but we will obviously continue close observation."

more info here:

https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2022/pdf/CDC_HAN_467.pdf

[Celerity]

18. thanks

[Emrys]

19. If the forum software would let us bump individual replies. this is a time I'd do it.

Thanks for some solid information.

[liberal_mama]

20. I don't think rebound positivity is rare with Paxlovid at all

It's a good thing Biden listened to his doctor and wore a mask when he was meeting with people. The doctor was smart and told Biden to wear a mask for 10 days. I'm sure the doctor knew this was likely to happen and didn't want Biden to infect anyone else if he went back to being positive. Biden was wearing a mask, wasn't he?

[mucifer]

22. They said on MSNBC he wasn't wearing masks after testing negative hope he was.

[BlackSkimmer]

23. Why wasn't he wearing one previous to the first infection?

Why wasn't Jill wearing one after his infection while she met with other people in a crowded indoor area?

Makes no sense to me.

[Ms. Toad]

29. Agreed.

The counties around me are concerned enough that they are re-implementing masking - at least in government buildings. I think the Republicans changed the law to ensure they couldn't implement a general mask order.

EVEN with the number of infections to exceed low community transmission bumped up by a factor of 4, most of the counties around me have a high community infection rate.

So tired of people who are unwilling to tolerate a little inconvenience for the sake of public health, even when they are the president and first lady.

[BlueIdaho]

30. Same exact thing happened to my sister.

Three days to first negative test but a total of ten days to reach recovery.