I'm just going to say this now. Jimmy Carter was right. Al Gore was right. Dems are right!

[Samrob]

https://deceleration.news/2022/06/17/1977-white-house-climate-memo/

Carter was a much better President than given credit for.

[Bayard]

1. Yes, and agreed!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. I've been saying that ever since 1977.

He was a very good President. And a decent human being. I just wish I could meet him, but will probably never have a chance.

[DENVERPOPS]

14. Same here since about that time !!!!!!

Several years ago I had the opportunity to not only meet him, but sit and talk to him at a Party for about 20 minutes, one on one....
He is an incredible human being. He is so earnest and sincere when he talks to you, it's like his presence surrounds you with peace and goodness. I told him I highly respected him, his work with Habitat and other projects and he asked if I had any ideas on how it could be better...........I also told him that I was still angry over HW & Cheney corruptly defeating him in 1980. He just smiled.........
Everyone on earth would be a much better person if they got the chance to meet him. He is everything you can imagine and more.
I am certainly glad he has lived a long life, because this world is a lot better with him in it...........

I didn't remember his politicizing his Military experience during his campaigning. Did you know he was a Military Submarine Commander?????? I sure didn't......

Stay safe and be well.......

[Lochloosa]

16. His eyes are mesmerizing. I met talked to him for a few minutes at a book signing.

I gave him a message from my step mom. She said he was the last truly Christian Presidents. He loved that one.

[Irish_Dem]

3. They were ahead of their time.

And blasted for it sad to say.

Also victims of ruthless sociopath GOP hatred and bullying.

[Kid Berwyn]

4. Absolutely. Safari Club cough Big Oil "got" him.

How a Deep State Plot Sank Jimmy Carter

PETER DALE SCOTT
WhoWhatWhy.Org, 11/02/14

The Safari Club was an alliance between national intelligence agencies that wished to compensate for the CIA’s retrenchment in the wake of President Carter’s election and Senator Church’s post-Watergate reforms. As former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal once told Georgetown University alumni,

In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran. (1)

After Carter was elected, the Safari Club allied itself with Richard Helms and Theodore Shackley against the more restrained intelligence policies of Jimmy Carter, according to Joseph Trento. In Trento’s account, the dismissal by William Colby in 1974 of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton,

combined with Watergate, is what prompted the Safari Club to start working with [former DCI Richard] Helms [then U.S. Ambassador to Iran] and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview. James Angleton said before his death that “Shackley and Helms … began working with outsiders like Adham and Saudi Arabia. The traditional CIA answering to the president was an empty vessel having little more than technical capability.”(2)

Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed . . . the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”(3) Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who had been forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by Theodore Shackley:

Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. . . . Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced. (4)

Continues…

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/the-deep-state-plots-the-1980-defeat-of-jimmy-carter/

Big Oil, the Saudi Roils and global Petroligarchs HATE democracy. They want to get every last penny this extracted mineral can yield, even if it kills us.

[DBoon]

52. Funny you mentioned BCCI:

One gets an eerie sense of déjà vu watching John Kerry battle the Bush clan. He’s done it once before, against the old man, President Bush’s father, though many voters have probably forgotten. That battle involved the first Bush administration’s attempt to put the lid on an investigation that connected a worldwide criminal bank to narco-traffickers, terrorists, and to Middle East money men who helped the Bush family make piles of cash. Those links connect to people now on the U.S. post-9/11 terrorist list.

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Kerry fought to expose an international criminal bank, BCCI — the Bank of Credit and Commerce International. The bank was run by a Pakistani, working with Persian Gulf managers who operated through a network of secret offshore centers to hide their operations from the world’s bank examiners. They weren’t, however, hidden from the CIA, which not only knew what the bank was doing, but used the bank to funnel cash through its Islamabad and other Pakistani branches to CIA client Osama bin Laden, part of the $2 billion Washington sent to the Afghani mujahideen. The operation gave bin Laden an education in black finance. CIA director William Casey himself met with BCCI founder Agha Hasan Abedi. The CIA also paid its own agents through the bank and used BCCI to fund black ops all over the world.

https://www.alternet.org/2004/10/the_case_that_kerry_cracked/

[larwdem]

5. agree 100%

[MyMission]

6. You're preaching to the choir, and we love hearing it

This DU choir loves to hear and read about how our politicians are better in so many ways.

Even if it's obvious.

Thanks for sharing.

[House of Roberts]

7. The dirty effing hippies are always right.

Every time ‘the establishment’ has denigrated the left in real time, history always proves we were right all along.

[spike jones]

44. These hippies?

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[House of Roberts]

49. Absolutely!

[SergeStorms]

8. My solidly republican mother...

said the same thing. Her exact words were, "he was too good for this country". It's one of the few things I remember my mother saying. Like I said, a solid republican, so we didn't have much in common after I turned 18.

[AllaN01Bear]

9. how many of u remember the book "silent spring" and others . we were @

tipping point then or before . jimmy carter was my first prez election. god bless him and mr gore the rightfull president of the us.

[Lochloosa]

17. Read it in school. Imagine that happening today.

And The Wahoo Bobcat.

[rubbersole]

10. Jimmy Carter was the last US president...

...that based US foreign policy on the human rights record of the country we were dealing with. Money/corporate profits be damned. There won't be another like him.

[certainot]

11. but we continue to ignore 1500 coordinated radio stations and even let 87+ universities support

260+ of them! while they continue to deny

astounding

[LuckyLib]

35. Thank you for continuing to put this info in front of

DUers — old and new. It is key to how far our country has slid into the depths.

[certainot]

41. thanks

[Autumn]

12. Welcome to the party. Dems have been saying this for years.

[bringthePaine]

13. ha left is righter every day😬

[G2theD]

15. He was screwed by things out of his control.

Inflation and the Iran hostage crisis. Reagan was a traitor by having Iran hold on to the hostages until after the election, depriving Carter of a huge boost before the ‘80 election.
Just think of that. To arrange to hold the hostages even one day longer is something that would have unimaginable for any American.

[DENVERPOPS]

20. And then they corruptly sold weapons to Iran

One rocket that they got from HWBush/Cheney/Rumsfeld was shot at a U.S. Navy ship killing dozens of U.S. Navy Sailors as I remember

They are doing the same to Biden that they did to Carter, create massive inflation, increased interest, etc etc
It worked then to discredit Carter, and it is working now to discredit Biden..........

I swear, there is no limit to the stupidity of the Republican voters............

[G2theD]

23. They try hard to ruin things when there is a democratic president.

They have no morals and their rube supporters eat it up! Critical thinking, to these people is doing their “research” on far-right websites. All other news is fake. How can people be that stupid and be proud of it?

[NNadir]

18. I love President Carter, but his energy policy, specifically coal to oil...

...would have led to much quicker destruction of the atmosphere than we are observing.

His decision to forgo the reprocessing of nuclear fuel was also damaging to the climate, although it should be said that unintentionally, there is some advantage inasmuch as in his day, Purex technology might have been employed. (Superior technology is now available, technology Bill Clinton defunded.)

[DENVERPOPS]

22. Then again

Do you recall him installing solar panels on the roof of the White House????????

Reagan was the one who immediately tore them down.......Imagine where we would be if the push for Solar would have started in the 70's. I guess it was the influence of Big oil and Big coal on Reagan............

[G2theD]

24. Of course. Thanks again Ronnie.

[lambchopp59]

38. That and major mass transit expansion and updating got torpedoed.

Popular science articles touted that by now, the new MAGLEV trains would have largely replaced the old rail systems.
That was a bright, exciting future I was looking forward to.
Then the starstruck "greatest generation" goofballs elected "the gipper", it's been downhill ever since.

[NNadir]

51. I know this is unpopular here, but so called "renewable energy" is neither clean or...

...sustainable. There is no way that Jimmy Carter could have known that, but it is regrettable that in this time of severe climate change that we are embracing this useless technology that serves only to entrench the dependence on dangerous fossil fuels.

[ShazzieB]

53. What‽

Yeah, this is not a popular stance here. But since you brought this up, maybe you could give us a little more info about what you mean, instead of just making what you know is a controversial statement abd providing nothing to back it up.

Just a thought.

[NNadir]

54. I invite you to read my rather extensive journal here.

It has lots of references albeit over a large number of posts giving my views on this topic, specifically on the only feasible way to address climate change.

[G2theD]

26. He also went into a Canadian nuclear reactor

to help Canada with a nuclear meltdown. He got a lifetime of radiation in the few minutes he was down there.

[Jade Fox]

19. One day we'll be saying the same thing about Biden...

A remarkable man who took charge during the worst times of our country and did a good job.

Those of you who are prayers, please remember to pray for President Biden.

[G2theD]

27. Biden has done more for Americans in 2 years than Trump ever did.

I don’t understand why his ratings are so low. It blows my mind,

[Jade Fox]

37. I believe at this point in most Presidential terms....

their ratings tend to be low.

It's like people vote for a candidate and expect miracles in return, which of course they don't get. By the time the next election rolls around, when faced with the alternatve, people will vote for the candidate that supports their beliefs.

That's my hope anyway.

[G2theD]

39. Particularly because they think we have the house, senate, and presidency.

But with the filibuster we really can’t control the senate from republican obstruction with less than 60 votes.
Not to mention the fascistic and misogynistic SCOTUS.

[G2theD]

40. Especially if Trump is the nominee

He lost last time and that was before January 6th and the now documented attempted coup.
I’m sure he lost a lot of voters since then.

[Pepsidog]

21. A good President and a better man. Thanks for posting.

[G2theD]

30. Yes, such a good man.

[peppertree]

25. Plus - Carter popped the OPEC bubble, which made the 'Reagan' recovery possible

Economists and historians have only recently begun to acknowledge this for the accomplishment it was.

Dubya, of course, later undid these gains by giving OPEC its biggest price run-up ever. I'm sure Bandar Bush was pleased.

[G2theD]

28. Yes. Republicans always take credit for what Democrats do.

Give a trillion dollar tax cuts to the rich and corporations, then bitch when the next dem president has to bail out the economy.

[peppertree]

29. If they were half as good at governing as they are at deflecting, what a country this would be

Alas...

[G2theD]

31. It's a rogue party

This is now an authoritarian party that wants a dictatorship.

[peppertree]

46. Sad but true

And like practically all fascist/quasi-fascist parties that have taken power elsewhere in the past, it only happened with massive corporate/upper-class support.

Freedom for me - but not for thee.

[Buckeyeblue]

32. President Carter was ahead of his time

Had he beaten St. Ronnie....well, you all know.

[barbtries]

33. Jimmy Carter

is the most underrated president in my lifetime imo.

Hillary was right, too - she was always right.

[DeeDeeNY]

34. And Obama predicted the pandemic in 2014

[Initech]

36. Rush Limbaugh was the worst thing to happen to this country since the Civil War.

Fuck that guy.

[gademocrat7]

42. President Carter is an amazing man.

He was a very good President, but not in the rethugs view. He has always believed in social justice. His Sunday School class will leave you inspired. Humble, kind, funny and sincere. As a Georgian, I stand with President Jimmy Carter.

[Stuart G]

43. President Carter ordered safety equipment on cars, through his Transportation Sec. Brock Adams 1979

take a look at these figures. All cars needed to have the safety equipment in cars by 1984..take a look at these numbers.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

from 1984 to 2018 a dramatic reduction in deaths. Recently an increase.
Why the recent increase?....MY OPINION ONLY!!!.............................
.................................................................................................
.....People are in a rush to get off the roads, and get back home to be safe with their families....Is that a good reason?
....................Because people are in a rush to get off the highways, they are making errors in driving that
........................they wouldn't normally make.

Yes, that does make sense, I have no inside information, just speculation on my opinion. Personally, I have seen a whole
lot of stupid errors in driving lately. I don't know why, maybe you do. I can only speculate.

[calimary]

45. Jimmy Carter got a raw deal.

Never appreciated when he was in office.

[Stuart G]

47. The numbers prove that Carter got a raw deal. Please hit link at post 43

[LymphocyteLover]

48. always!

[orthoclad]

50. A little exercise in alternate history

What if Gore had won?

He might have paid attention to the warning flags for 9/11, and stopped it. No 3000 lives lost that day. No "Patriot" Act. Less surveillance. No generation of endless wars and thousands of military dead and thousands of damaged vets needing help they don't get. No million +/- Middle Eastern lives lost. Trillions spent on society instead. Remember the "peacetime bonus" of the 90s?

A head start on fighting climate change and becoming energy independent. (Never forget that Carter put up solar for the White House.) Fewer superstorms and floods and heatwaves and forest fires.

No Trump?

At the Jan 6 hearing, one of the witnesses praised Gore for conceding gracefully, in order to spare the country turmoil.