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FraDon

(518 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:31 PM Aug 2022

We have been assured for years that the National Security Agency collects and secures

ALL phone calls, emails and texts. Remember John Poindexter and Total Information Awareness? All of these 'missing' records should be recoverable. What am I missing here?

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50 Shades Of Blue

(9,978 posts)
1. That if they know how to collect and save 'em to benefit them, they
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:36 PM
Aug 2022

Also know how to disappear 'em forever when it benefits them.

stopdiggin

(11,298 posts)
6. agree. generous grain of salt there.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 02:54 PM
Aug 2022

Also been hearing (for years) about the spy satellites that, "Can read individual letters on a license plate .. " And yet - still with the drone strikes that seem to have trouble telling the difference between wedding parties and terrorist training camps?

Can we also talk about the dichotomy between those that are ardent opponents of the type of surveillance and government overreach under discussion here - but then have no problem at all in calling for it's use when it serves their purposes? It gets a bit confusing ...

ColinC

(8,291 posts)
5. Regardless of how true that as, a FISA warrant should have been issued
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:39 PM
Aug 2022

years ago knowing what we know about Trump.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
7. It makes you wonder just how much our security apparatus is really protecting Americans, or
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 03:38 PM
Aug 2022

are they protecting themselves?

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
8. Conspiracy to dispose of evidence
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 03:55 PM
Aug 2022

The data should be on servers and backed up on tapes for long term storage. Especially in the time surrounding a significant event like Jan 6. Someone ordered it deleted.

Many of us remember the efforts by independent groups to archive social media posts from Jan 6 insurrectionists so it can be used in the investigation. So people in Trump administration did the opposite to erase as much data as possible from government systems.

Trump officials coordinated closely with insurrectionists. There is already plenty of evidence of that despite their efforts to hide it.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
9. and these are the same people who want to lock up Hillary for NOT saving her emails
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 04:18 PM
Aug 2022

when she was following directives in turning over all her work related emails.

Oh and her emails were not about an attempt to overthrow the government.

We should lock all of them up!

flashman13

(662 posts)
10. Real Power
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 04:23 PM
Aug 2022

President Biden can tell the NSA to give up the texts and emails. The NSA will stonewall him. Game over. That is real power.

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