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BootinUp

(51,314 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 10:48 PM Aug 2022

John Harwood with some polling news

John Harwood
@JohnJHarwood


new national Monmouth Poll on Americans' preference for control of Congress:

Democrats 50%
Republicans 43%
8:15 AM · Aug 3, 2022·Twitter for iPhone


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John Harwood with some polling news (Original Post) BootinUp Aug 2022 OP
That sounds good, but to what extent do individuals make it true? elleng Aug 2022 #1
Yes, this is a very high altitude look BootinUp Aug 2022 #5
More to come ColinC Aug 2022 #2
This should be much larger of a margin AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #3
That is also my take. nt BootinUp Aug 2022 #4
It may be ColinC Aug 2022 #9
Yes as Kansas has shown the polls are not factoring the large turnouts. Bev54 Aug 2022 #14
To some degree, the Kansas amendment might be a stronger motivator than an election karynnj Aug 2022 #21
Really...should be higher? Are you aware, that the President's party has won the midterm only Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #22
All politics is local. halfulglas Aug 2022 #6
That is good news. Music Man Aug 2022 #7
all good points BootinUp Aug 2022 #8
It makes sense G2theD Aug 2022 #10
5. Supreme Court's future plans for your spiritual well being... stop birth control. Gay marriage. 3Hotdogs Aug 2022 #12
9. They suck. G2theD Aug 2022 #20
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #11
I've heard ejbr Aug 2022 #13
Based on what? I love all the dire predictions on this post...and the doom and gloom...actually Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #23
Based on a study ejbr Aug 2022 #30
Gerrymandering was in place when we won the House and Senate before. The gerrymandering won't Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #32
The reason ejbr Aug 2022 #34
And which of the issues I just mentioned is most important to you in your vote choice for Congress? progressoid Aug 2022 #15
I've been following Krugmans tweets, he's still BootinUp Aug 2022 #17
I'm 100% not being a stick in the mud here. herding cats Aug 2022 #19
Here is how Krugman frames that aspect BootinUp Aug 2022 #28
And the answer is none of the above... Roe is not even in that list. Democrats should never run Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #24
Abortion Policy is listed progressoid Aug 2022 #26
ROE is not there. Stupid push poll. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #33
I think Kansas started the ball rolling. Now we will pick up momentum, Midnight Writer Aug 2022 #16
Same old problem, they think their GOP guy is OK Warpy Aug 2022 #18
Who thinks their GOP is OK? Not Democrats for sure. The fact is electing their guy will cause Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #25
It's the same problem I have with the question "is the country headed in the right direction?" progressoid Aug 2022 #27
That's because individual questions skew so heavily liberal Warpy Aug 2022 #29
National Polls don't mean much for the Senate or Electoral College SYFROYH Aug 2022 #31

elleng

(141,926 posts)
1. That sounds good, but to what extent do individuals make it true?
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 10:53 PM
Aug 2022

and how many congressional seats are there? 435 House seats

BootinUp

(51,314 posts)
5. Yes, this is a very high altitude look
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 10:58 PM
Aug 2022

something for Nate Silver and other number crunchers to play with.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
9. It may be
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 11:22 PM
Aug 2022

I think polls have been and will continue to be dramatically underestimating the margin Dems may win in November.

karynnj

(60,965 posts)
21. To some degree, the Kansas amendment might be a stronger motivator than an election
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:08 AM
Aug 2022

Obviously, the unexpected even when predictable (even in 2016) loss of a 50 year old right is probably the strongest motivator in the last 50 years. Stronger even than the various anti war movements.

However, that may not happen unless people REALLY fear a national ban legislated ban on abortion which cannot happen earlier than 2025 because it would need a Republican House, Senate ( willing to eliminate the filibuster) and a Republican President.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
22. Really...should be higher? Are you aware, that the President's party has won the midterm only
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:19 AM
Aug 2022

twice in 90 years? This ocurred in 34 and in 2002. This is a BFD assuming we can make it happen. And I think we can.

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
7. That is good news.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 11:09 PM
Aug 2022

I hope it grows wider, though. Historically, Democrats have needed to have huge leads in the generic polls to avoid losing seats. Part of this is due to gerrymandering, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats' habit of having lower turnout in midterms as opposed to presidential elections is probably a factor too. And let's not forget voter suppression in certain states.

So we have to run up the score. This is an encouraging trend. I believe this poll was from July 28-August 1, so it likely doesn't factor in the death of Zawahiri, passage of the PACT Act, and the momentum from the abortion victory in Kansas. Onward and upward.

G2theD

(608 posts)
10. It makes sense
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 11:28 PM
Aug 2022

1-Abortion
2-Televised J6 committee
3-Mass shootings
4-Veteran’s Health

There are 4 main issues that will keep both houses blue. That is if EVERYONE VOTES!!

I finally feel hopeful that things may get better.

3Hotdogs

(15,362 posts)
12. 5. Supreme Court's future plans for your spiritual well being... stop birth control. Gay marriage.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 11:50 PM
Aug 2022

6. Some of the assholes that they have as candidates.

7. Some of the already elected politicians making asses of themselves.

8. The Slobfather is still alive.

ejbr

(5,892 posts)
13. I've heard
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 11:52 PM
Aug 2022

that Democrats need at least 5% more in party preference polls to maintain the House.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
23. Based on what? I love all the dire predictions on this post...and the doom and gloom...actually
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:22 AM
Aug 2022

I don't. We have shifted this election in a big way. And based on how wrong the polls were in Kansas, my guess is that it is higher than what current pollsters are predicting. We are looking at a revolt against the GOP in the burbs...

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
32. Gerrymandering was in place when we won the House and Senate before. The gerrymandering won't
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 03:55 AM
Aug 2022

help with the Roe vote nor will it be easy to poll. Massive voting destroys gerrymandering. But here is the thing. What is the reason for such posts? Do you want to discouarage voters and have them give up?

ejbr

(5,892 posts)
34. The reason
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 01:23 PM
Aug 2022

Was to wed the presumed need for 5% points with the 7% led Dems now have. Again, chill.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
15. And which of the issues I just mentioned is most important to you in your vote choice for Congress?
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:01 AM
Aug 2022
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_080322/


Immigration policy 8%
Health care policy 14%
Gun control policy 17%
Abortion policy 17%
Tax policy 7%
Economic policy 24%
Climate change policy 11%
Don’t know 3%



The right wing keeps harping on immigration but that doesn't seem to be as big of a deal as it used to be. However, if the economy is still stinky in a couple months, that could be a problem.

BootinUp

(51,314 posts)
17. I've been following Krugmans tweets, he's still
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:05 AM
Aug 2022

the best at reading the tea leaves imho. There are definitely some good signs on the inflation front that he has highlighted. Still a foggy picture though.

And someone else mentioned already, the job market is strong.

But your points are well taken.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
19. I'm 100% not being a stick in the mud here.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:32 AM
Aug 2022

The job market is very, very good, but it's showing signs of weakening a bit. It's due to the recession risks. I don't see it as being 2007/2008 levels at all, but there is some mushiness there.

I expect exploitation of any softening to be exploited.

BootinUp

(51,314 posts)
28. Here is how Krugman frames that aspect
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 08:40 AM
Aug 2022

And yes we are all looking for ways to predict the future, its just that he has been very good at it. See the path A and B graph











Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
24. And the answer is none of the above... Roe is not even in that list. Democrats should never run
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:25 AM
Aug 2022

on laundry lists to begin with, but certainly not one that omits Roe.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
26. Abortion Policy is listed
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:59 AM
Aug 2022

It is also part of a group of separate questions asked

6.I’m going to read you a number of different policy issues. For each one, please tell me how important it is that a candidate for Congress shares your views on that issue in order for you to vote for them. You may use extremely important, very important, just somewhat important, or not important.

Abortion policy

Extremely important 35%
Very important 33%
Just somewhat important 19%
Not important 12%
Don’t know 1%

Midnight Writer

(25,404 posts)
16. I think Kansas started the ball rolling. Now we will pick up momentum,
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:03 AM
Aug 2022

especially as people get more focused as the election nears.

I think there were some Democrats getting discouraged and I think there were some Republicans afraid to "come out" on this issue.

Now Kansas has boosted morale.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
18. Same old problem, they think their GOP guy is OK
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:25 AM
Aug 2022

It's your son of a bitch who needs to go.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
25. Who thinks their GOP is OK? Not Democrats for sure. The fact is electing their guy will cause
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:31 AM
Aug 2022

women to lose a long-held right to an abortion which also includes medical care, a right to contraception, and perhaps the right to travel freely from state to state. We don't need more doom and gloom posts about how we won't win because some unnamed person thinks their GOP guy is 'ok'. We are doing very well thus far. Kansas proved that when we show up even in a red state, we are unstoppable.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
27. It's the same problem I have with the question "is the country headed in the right direction?"
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 08:03 AM
Aug 2022

Only 15% say the country is headed in the right direction. But that doesn't really tell you much since the other 85% have vastly different ideas about what that direction should be.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
29. That's because individual questions skew so heavily liberal
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:23 AM
Aug 2022

Tax the rich

Universal health care

Subsidized child care

Rein in big banks, mega corporations, and Wall Street

Raise the minimum wage to what 50 years of inflation say it should be

Improve mass transit

And there are many, many others. Having this rogue USSC overturn established laws that protect human rights has awakened a lot of people out there that mealy mouthed conservatism was a smoke screen and that we're headed for a plutocratic dictatorship.

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