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MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
1. If he does flip, he screws TFG and proves what the left has been saying...
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 07:44 AM
Aug 2022

if he doesn't, he could wind up behind bars as a conspirator?


Gee. You know, I'm finding it a little difficult to feel sorry for his dilemma.

2naSalit

(86,591 posts)
7. I think the only value he has...
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 08:01 AM
Aug 2022

To anyone, at this point, is that he has unwittingly exposed everyone in his phone records. Anything he has to actually say with his mouth should be taken as the rantings of a pathological liar.

That he was an integral component of the coup attempt with video proof along with the phone records, is enough to show his guilt.

Besides, he could be preoccupied with perjury problems in the near future.


H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
15. +1
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:42 PM
Aug 2022

While I have long considered Jones a significant part of the maga threat to democracy, the trial has been the most that I've actually listened to him. So I contacted someone more familiar with his being and thus his tactics. I asked if he was "acting" while he testified? My friend said no, that he was always an odd guy. That while he had opposed the Bush wars, the Oklahoma City bombing sent him over the edge. And that while he was a "showman" on his site, he has declined mentally over the years, which has made his having any platform a threat to democracy.

I think in the hearings after the jury returns its verdict, both Jones and his lawyer may face consequences from this judge. I've been very impressed with her.

crickets

(25,969 posts)
17. Yep! But oh, how useful his phone will be.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

The January 6 Committee and DOJ may have found their Alexander Butterfield.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. His testimony would be useless, but his phone records and text messages
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 08:16 AM
Aug 2022

Are an absolute treasure trove of damning information, I would imagine. 2-3 years of text messages with the likes of Roger Stone and perhaps even TFG will provide another roadmap for prosecutors to follow.

I have a feeling this will be HUGE.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
9. Like all the other rats, Alex Jones is loyal to only one person -- Alex Jones.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 08:23 AM
Aug 2022

When push comes to shove he'll turn if it's to his financial advantage.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
10. I would think the DOJ might want to talk to Mr Jones?
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 10:42 AM
Aug 2022

There's something happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr Jones?

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
11. I doubt Jones was directly involved in the planning of the conspiracy. He's a propagandist.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:14 PM
Aug 2022

He's not really very smart.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
13. I think I read that he brought a lot of the people to Washington for Jan 6th Rally?
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:22 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe someone has more details?

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
19. You're right. (CNN) "Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones helped jumpstart the organization efforts that
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 03:07 PM
Aug 2022

eventually materialized into the "Stop the Steal" rally on January 6, according to the grassroots organizer who filed the permits...He agreed to pay for a percentage of the event and I was to try and find someone to help with the funding gap, Chafian said of her agreement with Jones. He connected me with Caroline M. Wren because there was somebody that she knew who wanted to help contribute to the event...Jones, the Journal reported citing a funding document, offered upwards of $50,000 of his own money for a 'top speaking slot of his choice'."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/31/politics/alex-jones-rally-organization-efforts/index.html

AKwannabe

(5,657 posts)
14. tRump is more stupid IMO
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:38 PM
Aug 2022

But they are both bold as hell with the fucking lies.
Lock them both up for good!

crickets

(25,969 posts)
16. Agreed, but Alex Jones had to be involved in some J6 planning, even if only to take marching orders.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:25 PM
Aug 2022

He was there with a bullhorn to direct crowds, and apparently coordinated with Ali Alexander for at least part of the day.



capitolhunters @capitolhunters
Alex travels all afternoon with Ali Alexander, architect of ‘Stop the Steal’. #SeditionVIP’s Michael Coudrey and Jason Jones, both connected with Ali, arrived separately and pre-positioned on the north balcony, then followed Alex down the stairs and joined up with his group. 8/
10:42 PM · Oct 5, 2021


Oh, here's an interesting Erik Prince connection. Ex-Blackwater goons were there as bodyguards:



capitolhunters @capitolhunters
Alex’s bodyguards, many ex-Blackwater, wrap up the day with a rooftop photograph. We marked Tim Enlow - he's a public figure as the first TX policeman ever fired for racial profiling. Ex-Army, + 8 years as a “security contractor” in Iraq & Afghanistan. 12/
https://austinchronicle.com/news/2001-12-28/84192/
11:01 PM · Oct 5, 2021


Aha! Jones was at the Willard Hotel on Jan 5:



capitolhunters @capitolhunters
Alex’s men are proud to show their Blackwater connection. Here they are on Jan 5th in the Willard Hotel posing with ex-Blackwater guard Paul Slough, convicted for killing Iraqi civilians, then pardoned by Trump on Dec. 22, just 2 weeks before. 14/
11:07 PM · Oct 5, 2021


Jones is no mastermind, but he was in the thick of it. His phone is a treasure trove that must have gobs of people sweating bullets now, and I am so here for it.

Unroll of 23 tweet thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1445571696153350144.html

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
18. Yes.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:59 PM
Aug 2022

He’ll sing like a canary to save his own ass.

What a long, strange trip this has been, if the ultimate downfall of Trump and his cabal comes at the hands of a blowhard, ignorant Internet snake oil salesman.

One con man fucks over another. Gotta love it.

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