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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 03:15 AM Aug 2022

After seeing and hearing CPAC (organized rich MAGAs) applaud Orban today, I just do not

understand how so many minorities especially Hispanics, can continue to support and favor Trump and the GOP in the upcoming mid-terms. It just boggles my mind.

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After seeing and hearing CPAC (organized rich MAGAs) applaud Orban today, I just do not (Original Post) Samrob Aug 2022 OP
There were a couple of really good articles from 2019-20 on it rpannier Aug 2022 #1
Agree modrepub Aug 2022 #3
Stockholm Syndrome not fooled Aug 2022 #2
Hispanics are not always included in minority categories. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #4
Many Latinos consider themselves Europeans. SunSeeker Aug 2022 #6
Exactly. alphafemale Aug 2022 #8
Because they don't even know who he is. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2022 #5
Yep, they're primed to believe their leaders Orrex Aug 2022 #9
Amazingly, there are a lot of folks out there who consider liberals......... jaxexpat Aug 2022 #7

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
1. There were a couple of really good articles from 2019-20 on it
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:28 AM
Aug 2022

If I can locate either, or both, I'll let you know
One was an interview with a Pentecostal minister in Arizona who is conservative, but in 2020 said he wouldn't vote for Trump. But, he said many in his congregation see themselves a Christians first and Hispanics second. So, they vote Republican because of this.
They don't seem to care that many Republicans see them as Hispanic first and Christian second... or third... or whatever.
The Cubans and Venezuelans I do understand because of their homeland situation. I carry little sympathy for some of them because they/family members were part of the Bautista government, or aided criminal organizations in Cuba, were parts of paramilitary groups in Venezuela, etc.
But, they're mad because they lost everything

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
3. Agree
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:39 AM
Aug 2022

I think it's the religious angle that appeals to them. Maybe over time they'll see through the facade that is particular to America's (white) evangelical strain.

It's not a surprise to me so many in conservative media are dismissive on Pope Francis, who has a rather strong liberal streak compared to historical conservative Catholics. By dissing his liberal tilt, other American conservatives who tend to fall into anti-Catholic bias, hope to "peal off" those in the faith that align with their version of Christianity.

Joinfortmill

(14,413 posts)
4. Hispanics are not always included in minority categories.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:23 AM
Aug 2022

Therefore, they don't view themselves as a minority.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. Many Latinos consider themselves Europeans.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:49 AM
Aug 2022

Mestizos (Latin American term for people of mixed race, especially one having Spanish and indigenous descent) and indigenous peoples in Latin American countries are discriminated against by Latinos who consider themselves of superior European/Spanish descent. The shorter and darker you are, the more you are discriminated against in Mexico and other Latin American countries, even though Mestizos make up the majority of the population. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-mexico-racism/actress-comments-reignite-long-debate-on-racism-in-mexico-idUSKBN23K0G7

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. Exactly.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:17 AM
Aug 2022

Even many very dark skinned Cubans or Puerto Ricans do not consider themselves "black" as a casual observer or census taker would see them.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
5. Because they don't even know who he is.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:40 AM
Aug 2022

The vast majority of people in the country don’t know anything about Orban, what he is or how the GOP wants to model the country after him.

Many of the Republican voters are so caught up in the mythology nonsense, they only hear the lip service conservatives give it.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
9. Yep, they're primed to believe their leaders
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:18 AM
Aug 2022

So even if you or I or the media were to spell out Orban's history, the KKKultists would dismiss it as a "woke commie Liberal" hit job.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
7. Amazingly, there are a lot of folks out there who consider liberals.........
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:58 AM
Aug 2022

with their presumed attitude of smug superiority, because they are educated and informed by actually reading both sides of issues, to be the real enemy. They're told, and believe, it is the liberal elitists, with their nuances, who are to be feared and despised.

So, for the Latino perspective, we have Gov. DeSantis, who has the cure: place military veterans in the classroom instead of qualified teachers. He'd rather have "devil dogs" teaching kids than some person with a 4-year degree from "Shoehorn U".



Of course, I'm wrong, he's not playing on that uninformed prejudice to encourage that uninformed prejudice and to score hate points with his base. Naaaah, that'll never happen because his base is too smart to fall for that.

, like quaaludes and red wine, falling trippingly from the tongue.

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