Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:14 PM
applegrove (111,875 posts)
Why John Fetterman is So Good at Messaging
Why John Fetterman is So Good at Messaging
August 5, 2022 at 1:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 223 Comments https://politicalwire.com/2022/08/05/why-john-fetterman-is-so-good-at-messaging/ "SNIP....... Dan Pfeiffer: “Modern politics is a battle for attention. Therefore, campaigns need to communicate 24-7 and aim to dominate the political conversation.” “The Fetterman Campaign is always on offense. They are constantly putting out content that amplifies their message and puts Dr. Oz on the defensive. They never let up. Every day brings more videos, ads, and social media posts hammering Oz and amplifying the positive Fetterman message. When political news breaks, the campaign treats it as an opportunity to communicate on his terms.” ......SNIP"
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applegrove | Aug 2022 | OP |
Walleye | Aug 2022 | #1 | |
TheBlackAdder | Aug 2022 | #48 | |
msongs | Aug 2022 | #2 | |
Scrivener7 | Aug 2022 | #8 | |
malthaussen | Aug 2022 | #37 | |
Scrivener7 | Aug 2022 | #38 | |
malthaussen | Aug 2022 | #40 | |
SMC22307 | Aug 2022 | #44 | |
Scrivener7 | Aug 2022 | #47 | |
calimary | Aug 2022 | #22 | |
cilla4progress | Aug 2022 | #28 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Aug 2022 | #3 | |
Indykatie | Aug 2022 | #4 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #6 | |
gratuitous | Aug 2022 | #13 | |
SMC22307 | Aug 2022 | #45 | |
Tommymac | Aug 2022 | #34 | |
uponit7771 | Aug 2022 | #5 | |
Bettie | Aug 2022 | #7 | |
wiggs | Aug 2022 | #9 | |
Cosmocat | Aug 2022 | #10 | |
FakeNoose | Aug 2022 | #23 | |
malthaussen | Aug 2022 | #39 | |
JohnnyRingo | Aug 2022 | #11 | |
twodogsbarking | Aug 2022 | #25 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #26 | |
JohnnyRingo | Aug 2022 | #29 | |
Tommymac | Aug 2022 | #35 | |
peggysue2 | Aug 2022 | #12 | |
NNadir | Aug 2022 | #14 | |
Meowmee | Aug 2022 | #15 | |
H2O Man | Aug 2022 | #16 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #17 | |
Mr. Evil | Aug 2022 | #18 | |
applegrove | Aug 2022 | #20 | |
MiHale | Aug 2022 | #19 | |
Jilly_in_VA | Aug 2022 | #21 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #27 | |
cilla4progress | Aug 2022 | #30 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #31 | |
cilla4progress | Aug 2022 | #33 | |
Hortensis | Aug 2022 | #43 | |
applegrove | Aug 2022 | #49 | |
Demsrule86 | Aug 2022 | #32 | |
Jilly_in_VA | Aug 2022 | #36 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Aug 2022 | #24 | |
treestar | Aug 2022 | #41 | |
Qutzupalotl | Aug 2022 | #42 | |
Pluvious | Aug 2022 | #46 |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:17 PM
Walleye (22,793 posts)
1. It's great he's making Oz look like a chump and weak
Or as Stevie Van Zandt says, something like, “come on man we don’t want to see embarrass yourself”
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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 01:11 PM
TheBlackAdder (26,099 posts)
48. Give Oz a break. He's just learning about Lancaster County and Indian Echo Caverns.
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Who knows, he might even stop by Hershey Park and take the factory tour. ![]() On his way there, from his King George mansion in NJ, he might even take in Crystal Cave as it's en route. . |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:17 PM
msongs (65,362 posts)
2. other dems could profit from this sort of messaging. they should try it nt
Response to msongs (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:42 PM
Scrivener7 (47,345 posts)
8. With the added element of an analysis of the psychology of the middle
tranch of voters in that specific constituency. In PA, their psychology demanded that he present himself as "the real guy in the clothes just like yours" and OZ as the "rich carpetbagger that doesn't understand a THING about us rust belt guys."
He doesn't have to sacrifice a single progressive stance because he is appealing to their specific psychology. |
Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #8)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:55 AM
malthaussen (15,882 posts)
37. He does project that image of real PA guy.
If he hasn't been photographed with a bottle of Iron City beer in his hand, he should be.
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Response to malthaussen (Reply #37)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:57 AM
Scrivener7 (47,345 posts)
38. I think it's genuine, but I also think he made a conscious decision not to try to
spiff himself up.
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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #38)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:09 PM
malthaussen (15,882 posts)
40. Honestly? I think he looked in the mirror and said...
..."John, no way you can look like one of those prissy pretty-boys, so go with your strengths." Thing is, that blue-collar image will resonate with the Republican base, but the more intellectual Progressives will not be turned off by it, because he is obviously both smart and effective. Although some Dems in the state whine that he isn't moderate enough and doesn't wear thousand dollar suits.
I'm probably prejudiced anyway, I'm Pittsburgh working class by birth, so Fetterman is already my kind of guy. -- Mal |
Response to malthaussen (Reply #40)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:42 PM
SMC22307 (8,040 posts)
44. Johnstown working class by birth, so Fetterman is already my kinda guy as well. (n/t)
Response to malthaussen (Reply #40)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 01:02 PM
Scrivener7 (47,345 posts)
47. Yes. I agree. I think it's his normal style and he understood it would appeal
to that middle strip of voters that he mathematically needs. So he had no reason to consider changing it.
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Response to msongs (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 07:28 PM
calimary (74,893 posts)
22. Yes they could! Hope they do!
Messaging is EVERYTHING!!!
When I was anchoring, way back when I was still working, I realized something. I could say "Reagan says... " OR "Reagan claims... " And I realized it A) passed muster with my eagle-eyed editor who didn't miss much, B) it WASN'T misleading or factually inaccurate, C) and it could "fly under the radar," coloring the sentence it started, and casting just a weeeeeee bit of doubt so slightly it wasn't noticeable. D) and it wasn't in any way yelling out that he was a liar. Sometimes he was, but other times he was just being a salesman like he always had been. With him, I got the sense that it wasn't "how can I fool 'em" but rather "how do I sell this most effectively" because I think he sincerely believed some of this shit would help people. He must have had more slickie-boy salespeople doing the construction. By stark contrast, consider what trump's shtick is. AND his motivation. With him, it always boils down to "how can I fool 'em?" He doesn't care. Just as long as it's something that benefits HIMSELF. If anybody else benefits besides him, well, call that a happy accident. Frankly, in a technical sense, everything ol' Ronnie said and promised and stated as fact could be written this way and would stand, because so much of nearly everything he said was a claim, and often rather debatable if you really dug into it. It was more accurate to call it a claim rather than a statement. It'd still work, either way. So that's what I did. And I was familiar enough with whatever issue it was that I KNEW the claim was more bullshit and wishful thinking than solid fact. And that's how I started learning the value and strategy of HOW you word something. |
Response to msongs (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:13 AM
cilla4progress (22,525 posts)
28. But if it's not authentic to the candidate,
it can be ugly and yes, embarrassing!
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:17 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,926 posts)
3. It also doesn't hurt that Oz is either absent or tone-deaf.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:22 PM
Indykatie (3,500 posts)
4. Fetterman Has the Best Social Media Operation I've Seen This Cycle n/t
Response to Indykatie (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:25 PM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
6. He is the best I have seen since Obama who knew the power of social media...remember
Obama girl...who was independent of President Obama but was hilarious.
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Response to Indykatie (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:02 PM
gratuitous (80,510 posts)
13. And while I know nothing about his social media operation
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was run by a couple of smart-alec young guys who enjoy combing the internet and creating memes or making snarky comments. Throw in one savvy older person for oversight and to avoid an unforced error, and you've got an effective and (probably) cheap boutique operation in the campaign.
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Response to gratuitous (Reply #13)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:48 PM
SMC22307 (8,040 posts)
45. Mehmet Oz wearing dress shoes in a tractor is a perfect example.
The tweets are hilarious and mocking, but not mean-spirited. SLOP wouldn't allow mean-spirited. The Twitter comments are hilarious, too.
Link to tweet ?s=20&t=IIOUT32m9veCW_Jmv1-PHQ |
Response to Indykatie (Reply #4)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:19 AM
Tommymac (7,261 posts)
34. SMS too. I get at least one everyday, and they are not all about fundraising.
Sometimes he just chats about his family. Or Giselle sends out some good news about something.
Of coarse the vast majority ARE indeed fundraising texts, but he makes it seem like we really know each other and it does not come across as simply fundraising. Genius. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() #GOTV2022 #VOTEBLUE2022 #VOTEBLUEPA |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:24 PM
uponit7771 (88,617 posts)
5. K&R, the volume of dem messaging is low even the amplitude is sky high and popular.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 04:35 PM
Bettie (14,734 posts)
7. Doing it the way he is, skillfully on
social media in a way that grabs attention and it clever is really effective.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:15 PM
wiggs (7,247 posts)
9. ....and he doesn't resort to lies, polarization, hate speech, victimhood, scapegoating. nt
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:52 PM
Cosmocat (14,313 posts)
10. Been supporting him since he was a mayor
He is hands down the best campaigner this state has known.
It isn't just the social media, he has done at least 2 or 3 statewide tours with stops at every one of the 67 counties. Unlike so many other Ds, isn't afraid of his shadow - takes clear progressive positions without any equivocation, and will go right at Rs when they say and do horrible things (that is a full time job in its own). He was flying pride flags outside the LT Govs office, which drove the Rs in the General Assembly crazy. They did everything they could to make him take them down - he replaced them with BIGGER ones. |
Response to Cosmocat (Reply #10)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 07:36 PM
FakeNoose (28,416 posts)
23. Yes indeed! and his wife is awesome too
Big John is smart and gutsy, and he'll be great as our new Senator.
I can't wait to see him make mincemeat of those evil Repukes in Washington. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #23)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:00 PM
malthaussen (15,882 posts)
39. I SO want the Turtle to have to look up to Big John every single working day.
For all I know, Fetterman is gentle as a lamb, but he'd make a coward like McConnell soil his shorts just being there.
-- Mal |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:56 PM
JohnnyRingo (17,708 posts)
11. Rolling Stone did an article about him years ago.
When he first became mayor of Bradford (I think). He' one tough customer, that's for sure. He had the town's zip code tattooed on his forearm to prove his dedication.
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:05 AM
twodogsbarking (6,062 posts)
25. Braddock. Just out of Pittsburgh.
Go Johnny Go....
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:09 AM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
26. The numbers on his arms are the numbers of those who died by homicide in his town...he did
did a great job in Braddock...he reopened steel mills...
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #26)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:14 AM
JohnnyRingo (17,708 posts)
29. The zip is inked there too
John Fetterman explains his tattoos:
https://www.phillyvoice.com/john-fetterman-tattoos-pennsylvania-braddock-senate-lieutenant-governor/ The tattoos, a series of numbers on each forearm, are representative of Fetterman's commitment to Braddock:
On my left arm I have the zip code 15104. That’s Braddock, Pennsylvania, my home and the community I was honored to serve as mayor for 15 years. My wife Gisele and I are raising our kids here in Braddock, right across the street from Andrew Carnegie’s first steel mill. On my right arm, I have different dates. These are the dates when people were killed through violence in Braddock while I served as Mayor, starting in 2005. Seven out of nine were gun deaths. I actually have to get one more date added because in June of 2018, there was another tragic loss of life. |
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:21 AM
Tommymac (7,261 posts)
35. And also tattoos representing the murder victims he could not protect during his time as mayor.
THAT is one amazing man.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 05:57 PM
peggysue2 (9,770 posts)
12. Fetterman and his team excel at social media be it twitter, vids, ads, whatever
Pfeiffer, I believe, is absolutely correct--this continuous messaging and hammering on Oz doesn't allow the opposition to take a breath or come up with an effective attack.
The latest Oz push is to call John Fetterman a 'fake blue-collar populist' because he grew up in a comfortable suburban setting, went to college and received his Masters degree without accumulating debt and that his family subsidized John Fetterman and his family as he served as the mayor of Braddock for a whopping $150 a month. Problem? John Fetterman has been transparent about his past, has talked about the life changing event that turned his life aims around (the sudden death of his best friend), and his journey to public service for those who had not won the 'birth lottery.' His family has supported him on this journey with willingness and love. In contrast, Dr. Oz came from a wealthy family (his father was a surgeon), a profession the good doctor Oz went into as well. The man's a multimillionaire (Fetterman certainly is not) spending his time amassing an even bigger fortune by selling film-flam products to the desperate and gullible. The question is: who has a legacy of reaching out to people and communities that need a leg up, worked and sweated with these same people and who has spent his time feathering his own nest, working on celebrity status and drinking in the nectar of fame? The answer is clear. This attack and all the previous ones have been lame because Dr. Oz hasn't the slightest idea what public service really is. He doesn't know and he doesn't care to know. He just wants the job of representing a state he hasn't even lived in. Go back home, Dr. Oz. You're gonna lose this race! |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:10 PM
NNadir (31,082 posts)
14. Fetterman's the real deal. My son just moved from PA, and regrets that he will not get to vote...
...for him.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:15 PM
Meowmee (4,949 posts)
15. Good for him
I hope the election goes the same way. He has given me a few laughs too.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:24 PM
H2O Man (70,898 posts)
16. Recommended.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:26 PM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
17. k&R thanks!
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:53 PM
Mr. Evil (2,451 posts)
18. To me,
the best aspect of John Fetterman's campaign is simple. He is addressing basic reality. He isn't about anger and fear. He simply tells the truth. We need many more like him in every state.
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Response to Mr. Evil (Reply #18)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:56 PM
applegrove (111,875 posts)
20. Yes. He speaks the plain truth.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 06:54 PM
MiHale (7,646 posts)
19. Yes, yes, yes, etc. to infinity
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 07:09 PM
Jilly_in_VA (7,629 posts)
21. Other Democrats
need to learn from Fetterman. He's that good.
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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:13 AM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
27. If his heath holds (and since I now have A-Fib thanks to Covid and am doing quite well. The
pneumonia is worse! I think he will be fine ), I could see him run for president maybe in 28.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:16 AM
cilla4progress (22,525 posts)
30. Oh no!
Sorry to hear this about your health!
Was it brought on by covid? |
Response to cilla4progress (Reply #30)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:51 AM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
31. Yes it was. I had been masking and being careful but went to a wedding in Ithaca New York...
I think that is where I got it. I was vaxed and boosted too. I was sick for two days...had a headache and threw up. Afterward, I felt tired but not sick. eight days after the Covid began, I had a sharp pain in my left side...thought I had gall bladder stones. I was throwing up until I had nothing left in my stomach...and then had dry heaves.
Hubs called our daughter as he can't drive because of his surgery. My daughter left work and insisted on the ER. I am glad I went as I would not be here if I didn't go. I had A-Fib...my pulse was very high, a heart murmur, blood clots in my kidney and stomach. The one in the kidney caused the pain as my blood could not flow into my left kidney and Covid pneumonia. My pressure was so low they had to give me blood pressure meds before they could give my heparin which bust clots. I spent over a week in the hospital and I am told I had a mild heart attack while in the ER. I am much better but it has been a difficult recovery. |
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:54 AM
cilla4progress (22,525 posts)
33. That's insane!
I'm so sorry!
Glad you are better. I've never heard of such extreme post-COVID?? ![]() |
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:34 PM
Hortensis (55,710 posts)
43. Stay on top of that pneumonia, Dems. You know, of course,
but...be awfully careful with that.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 03:04 PM
applegrove (111,875 posts)
49. Vibes for a good recovery.
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:54 AM
Demsrule86 (65,533 posts)
32. I would add that I had no pre-existing conditions... took no meds in fact and had Covid at least
once maybe twice (not sure) before with no further medical issues. I don't know if this is a more deadly form or if it has something to do with my having it before or the luck of the draw...
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jilly_in_VA (7,629 posts)
36. My dad lived with A-fib for well over 30 years
It was controlled with medication until he was near 80 and then he had to get a pacemaker. Not even a pacemaker/defibrillator. He lived to be 91 and died in 2008.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:03 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,225 posts)
24. Never give 'em time to forget what Dems are doing and Repugs are damaging.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:22 PM
treestar (81,181 posts)
41. Finally a democrat good
At messaging!
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:29 PM
Qutzupalotl (13,276 posts)
42. Dems: When asked any question, SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
We tend to rattle off specific policy proposals as answers. That interests our base, but the Right hears that and thinks, more government is not the solution, so they harden against us.
But if you use any question as a chance to say WHAT YOU BELIEVE, independents and RW voters will a) see you as fearless, bold unafraid—a leader; and b) see you as likable and one of them, because we all want the same things—a fair shot to earn a living, good schools, good opportunities, good healthcare. Articulating these has the added benefit of making your opponent appear to be against those things. Fetterman excels at this. That and his image are why he is catching on, IMO. |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:58 PM
Pluvious (3,615 posts)
46. This is exactly what Hal Malchow has been saying for a year...
(but he couldn’t get money from Dems and PACs to do it)
Bill Clinton knew how to push back (without being abrasive) Maybe Fetterman’s (hopeful) success will help chart more effective campaigning Link to tweet |