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Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:34 PM Aug 2022

📱 Hello is this Lindsey? Lindsey Graham? ... Hi! It's Rico!





Not sure how RICO laws are going to be used here, I personally believe that part is still speculative... but wouldn't it be fun to watch Lindsey squirm in court?



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📱 Hello is this Lindsey? Lindsey Graham? ... Hi! It's Rico! (Original Post) Tommymac Aug 2022 OP
Dunno; let's see. elleng Aug 2022 #1
Thanks for the definition. Much appreciated. Tommymac Aug 2022 #3
and I'll put my $$$ on Fani Willis ANY day! elleng Aug 2022 #4
And Georgia has its own RICO law, which is defined more broadly and easier to prove pnwmom Aug 2022 #7
Good. elleng Aug 2022 #10
And was Georgia one of those 33 sttes? soldierant Aug 2022 #13
Yes! elleng Aug 2022 #14
Yippee! soldierant Aug 2022 #16
Bring on the popcorn Septua Aug 2022 #2
Ooh, now that's a very interesting concept. spanone Aug 2022 #5
rico... it even has a theme song! lapfog_1 Aug 2022 #6
Memories of high school peppertree Aug 2022 #21
HaHaHaaaaaHa Tommymac Aug 2022 #33
Please process with my thanks! Brainfodder Aug 2022 #8
OMG Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #9
Graham is a total lickspittle and kiss ass, but I don't know if he was directly involved Martin68 Aug 2022 #11
Well hate that since he's one of the more lovable devils Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #12
Sad But True DET Aug 2022 #23
Lindsey had a heart? And he was funny and charming at any time in his past? Boy, I missed that! n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #31
Did you see the clip in the car where he talked about Biden? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #35
I remember that video.. it was an astonishing thing to hear from him. msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #37
LG loveable? babylonsister Aug 2022 #29
Yup remembering him from the past. Trump rots people's Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #36
That's really good news. ecstatic Aug 2022 #15
He won't do well in prison. rubbersole Aug 2022 #17
RICO's are sometimes jackpots. nt BootinUp Aug 2022 #18
RICO the Republican party poli-junkie Aug 2022 #19
They always wanted to be thought of as the 'party of the rich' peppertree Aug 2022 #20
✔️ live love laugh Aug 2022 #24
*What*/can't BE! - a lawyer, a military attorney, Senator?!1 - just *CAN'T* be! UTUSN Aug 2022 #22
Please let it be so GoodRaisin Aug 2022 #25
K&R and LOL (I thought it might the name of one of his escorts) n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #26
Well, if they have someone prominent prepared to testify that Lindsey discussed/coordinated his call hlthe2b Aug 2022 #27
I'm all ... Novara Aug 2022 #28
About the Rico laws: the crime itself is coercing an election official Bucky Aug 2022 #30
Thanks for this. As a layman I can understand it! Tommymac Aug 2022 #34
Thanks, Tommy. And Pnwmom for info on the GA version. Hortensis Aug 2022 #32

elleng

(131,275 posts)
1. Dunno; let's see.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:39 PM
Aug 2022

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.

RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970) and is codified at 18 U.S.C. ch. 96 as 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961–1968. G. Robert Blakey, an adviser to the United States Senate Government Operations Committee, drafted the law under the close supervision of the committee's chairman, Senator John Little McClellan. It was enacted as Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, and signed into law by US President Richard M. Nixon. While its original use in the 1970s was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its later application has been more widespread.

Beginning in 1972, thirty-three states adopted state RICO laws to be able to prosecute similar conduct.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
3. Thanks for the definition. Much appreciated.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:46 PM
Aug 2022

I'm not a lawyer so I really can't say one way or another if this speculation is accurate.

But it still makes me grin when I think about Lindsey sitting in the docket...

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
7. And Georgia has its own RICO law, which is defined more broadly and easier to prove
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:31 PM
Aug 2022

than the Federal law.

https://www.georgiacriminallawyer.com/rico#:~:text=RICO%20is%20a%20crime%20that,statute%20than%20the%20federal%20one.

RICO is a crime that has a federal statute and a Georgia state statute. The Georgia statute defines racketeering more broadly than the federal law does. In addition, it takes less to prove a pattern of racketeering activity under the Georgia statute than the federal one. However, the largest difference between the two is that Georgia does not always require the existence of an enterprise to constitute racketeering.

peppertree

(21,704 posts)
21. Memories of high school
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:20 AM
Aug 2022

All the girls were crazy about the guy - for about a week.

Then it was Vanilla Ice, for a week, and so on...

A little like Republican primaries.

Martin68

(22,936 posts)
11. Graham is a total lickspittle and kiss ass, but I don't know if he was directly involved
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:01 PM
Aug 2022

in the conspiracy. Probably just going alone for the ride. He doesn't seem very bright.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Well hate that since he's one of the more lovable devils
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:12 PM
Aug 2022

But you gotta pay your dues, for corruption. Too bad you chose that route but you did. Prison awaits you. Bah bye LG

DET

(1,328 posts)
23. Sad But True
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:59 AM
Aug 2022

I just can’t bring myself to despise Lindsay as much as the other traitors. He used to be so funny and charming, and he seemed to actually have a heart at one time. But sadly, everything Trump touches dies, metaphorically at least, and Lindsay has to pay for what he’s done.

msfiddlestix

(7,288 posts)
31. Lindsey had a heart? And he was funny and charming at any time in his past? Boy, I missed that! n/t
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:24 AM
Aug 2022

Been watching that idiot for too long, I guess I missed all those affable qualities in his character!


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. Did you see the clip in the car where he talked about Biden?
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 05:31 PM
Aug 2022

He praised him like crazy. Talked about how there was no finer person.

He was hot and cold. Who knew that was gonna be ok. But got hooked up with trump somehow. Guessing blackmail.

msfiddlestix

(7,288 posts)
37. I remember that video.. it was an astonishing thing to hear from him.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:39 AM
Aug 2022

a moment of humanity which quickly disappears as a trump ass licker.

Even though that's a metaphor, he's an alcoholic moron and a liar among other things.

babylonsister

(171,104 posts)
29. LG loveable?
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 07:52 AM
Aug 2022

He ceased being anything other than a turncoat the minute he became a 'yes' man to mf45, lying with ease when he felt it necessary. I think he's calculating and evil.

ecstatic

(32,766 posts)
15. That's really good news.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:19 PM
Aug 2022

He wanted my vote to be tossed out and I take that very personally. He needs to serve some time in prison, alongside his BFF trump.

hlthe2b

(102,468 posts)
27. Well, if they have someone prominent prepared to testify that Lindsey discussed/coordinated his call
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 06:26 AM
Aug 2022

with that of Trump and his gang of bumbling attorneys (say a Mark Meadows, for instance?) then RICO might well be applicable.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
30. About the Rico laws: the crime itself is coercing an election official
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:09 AM
Aug 2022

The criminal conspiracy behind it would be Trump getting Lindsey Graham to also lean on the Georgia Secretary of State to commit the criminal act of rigging an election. An organized criminal conspiracy doesn't have to be a formal, ongoing, or permanent organization, like the mafia. RICO is there just for dealing with larger or more powerful criminal enterprises.

If it feels like a bit much for a single criminal act, coercion of an official in the performance of his duties, remember that there were other crimes being committed by the same informal conspiracy, like the fraud and impersonation involved in the fake electors scheme, similar actions in other states, as well as Senator Graham's open defiance of the grand jury subpoena. When the alleged criminals ramp up their efforts to fight law enforcement, then it becomes a powerful enough conspiracy to require employing the extra tools in the RICO laws

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Thanks, Tommy. And Pnwmom for info on the GA version.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:29 AM
Aug 2022

As for the charming creep, I wish execution by firing squad for treason was a potential penalty. tRump's rise to power didn't change people; it encouraged and enabled those who chose the dark side to reveal who they were by removing constraints on and rewarding bad behavior. Most people rejected the "opportunity."

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