I find it funny how republicans are trying to spin the great jobs report as bad for President Biden,

[duforsure]

When TFG's job lost under him was the greatest number of jobs lost since Hoover, and why this Presidents job's gained is so high. TFG predicted if Biden was elected he's fail miserably creating jobs. The republican media don't bring that up either. TFG was a failure creating jobs , unless you want to believe people that lie about fake election fraud they refuse to produce evidence of. President Biden IS cleaning up the mess TFG made, and why republicans are voting against helping us recover from it by voting no on bills needed to help American.

[Deuxcents]

1. Yeah, but his cult believes it

[duforsure]

2. Its the Democrats job to expose them to the truth and facts,

And improve their messaging to counter republican propaganda. Dems need to message better .

[live love laugh]

3. The RePretzelcans.

[duforsure]

4. Democrats should take advantage of republicans critics now,

By saying if TFG hadn't have caused so many jobs to be lost under his administration he wouldn't of had so many jobs to fill.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. That's exactly what Mehdi Hasan talked about tonight:

Fox News Tries To Spin Good Jobs Report Into Bad News - All In - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017756210

[duforsure]

7. Yep, and Democrats should reply with how bad the last republican President did,

And how many jobs were lost under TFG and the GOP, then repeat it, often.

[Rhiannon12866]

9. That's the thing, like you said, between his handling of Covid and his ineptitude, TFG lost more jobs

In this country than anyone since Hoover. But thanks to Biden, the jobs have come back and we're finally handling Covid, too.

[duforsure]

11. The media needs to show how many jobs were lost under TFG and GOP control,

Then show how many jobs under President Biden and the Democrats have been created, and how TFG claimed Biden would failed at creating jobs. Or maybe The Lincoln Project for commercials.

[Rhiannon12866]

12. You're right, Biden's successes need to be publicized - and contrasted with "the former guy"

We have to counter the lies continuing to come from the right - and I agree that The Lincoln Project does a great job pointing these facts out.

[honest.abe]

6. And if the opposite happened they would blame Biden for causing a recession.

It’s infuriating.

[duforsure]

8. Its a lot of PR and messaging that Democrats have to increase on to improve with,

And expose the truth more to people to undermine their propaganda.

[honest.abe]

13. The Republicans and RW media have been effective controlling the narrative unfortunately.

Not sure what the answer is but we need to figure it out.

[duforsure]

15. Publicizing the truth a lot more, then repeat it.

[honest.abe]

18. Yes. We need our Democratic billionaires to step up and help with this.

It takes money, a lot of it, to accomplish this.

[Funtatlaguy]

10. Jesus himself could come back to earth and tell these arseholes

that Biden is a great man and doing a great job and they would say…
“Oh this coming from a man who hangs out with twelve other guys and wants to take from the rich and give to the poor…sounds like a gay communist to me”.

[edbermac]

14. Joe could find a cure for a cancer.

And Fox would complain that he’s putting thousands of doctors out of work.

[duforsure]

16. Exactly.

Weaponizing propaganda has become their agenda.

[progree]

17. Well, there was a partial job recovery under Slobfather, but his term overall was NEGATIVE jobs

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I suppose it depends how one picks the start and end points --

But comparing January 2017 to January 2021. Or February 2017 to Februrary 2021, there were fewer jobs at the end of Slobfather's term than at the beginning (the presidency changed hands on January 20, 2017 at noon and January 20, 2021 at noon).

# Nonfarm Employment (Establishment Survey, in thousands)
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001

YEAR JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH YADA
2016 143205 143417 143654 143851 143892 144150 144521 144664 144953 145071 145201 145415
2017 145628 145818 145960 146165 146388 146585 146768 146913 147012 147153 147353 147529
2018 147662 148064 148289 148468 148801 148984 149050 149269 149326 149471 149573 149821
2019 150100 150124 150348 150636 150713 150843 150921 151081 151244 151337 151589 151789
2020 152128 152504 151006 130513 133155 137660 139048 140713 141632 142279 142612 142497
2021 143017 143727 144431 144694 145141 145698 146387 146904 147328 148005 148652 149240
2022 149744 150458 150856 151224 151610 152008(P) 152536(P)

Monthly changes, in thousands
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
Year Jan Feb Mar yada
2016 108 212 237 197 41 258 371 143 289 118 130 214
2017 213 190 142 205 223 197 183 145 99 141 200 176
2018 133 402 225 179 333 183 66 219 57 145 102 248
2019 279 24 224 288 77 130 78 160 163 93 252 200
2020 339 376 -1498 -20493 2642 4505 1388 1665 919 647 333 -115
2021 520 710 704 263 447 557 689 517 424 677 647 588
2022 504 714 398 368 386 398(P) 528(P)

Meaning every Biden month has been better than Slobfather's entire presidency, as Biden hasn't had a negative month yet.

Even pre-pandemic, Slobfather was a mediocre job creator:

Presidential jobs creation table (post WWII presidents) in January 2020 at near the height of the pre-Covid economy, and so is Trump at his best, and even then, 5 of 6 post-WWII Democratic presidents beat his record. (At the end of his term, he was the only one with a negative jobs creation record -- fewer jobs than when he started)

. . . https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2880567



As for Obama, he inherited the deepest recession since World War II, which lost 4.2 million jobs in the last 10 months of his predecessor, and in the last 3 months of his predecessor was losing 753,000 jobs a month. With that momentum, job losses continued for the first 13 months of the Obama presidency -- through February 2010 -- totalling 4.3 million jobs lost during those 13 months.

Anyway, despite the 4.3 million jobs lost in his first 13 months because of the Bush crash, Obama still beats 4 of the last 7 post-WWII Republican presidents (the count of 7 post-WWII Republican presidents includes Trump -- in this sentence I'm including his entire term which was negative job growth). Of these Republican presidents, only Nixon, Reagan, and Ford had better records than Obama, and Ford only edged him out by 0.01 percentage points.

[duforsure]

19. While TFG claimed Biden would lose jobs if elected before the election.