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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 05:12 AM Aug 2022

Dems need to make this very clear. GOP not just banning abortions. They are coming for birth control

This needs to be a huge part of the messaging with examples and citations.

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Mister Ed

(6,773 posts)
2. And there's no reason to think they'd stop at birth control, either.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 06:01 AM
Aug 2022

Take a look back through history, or a look around the world in modern times, to see how far religious extremists will go in their cruel quest for control over women.

Revocation of the rights to drive, to own property, to appear in public without a male chaperone? Sure. Mandatory wearing of the burqa? We got it. The indescribable horror of female genital mutilation? All too real for women in some places today.

These extremes can't be mentioned as a part of party messaging, because to Americans today they seem so unlikely as to be absurd. But they should be born in the back of the mind. We must never allow even a single step down the road that leads in that direction. Not a single step.

Irish_Dem

(78,955 posts)
14. If reproductive rights are ended, then other forms of subjugation will flow naturally.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:36 AM
Aug 2022

Pregnant girls drop out of high school and college.
Staying home to take care of kids.
Means no education, no well paying jobs.

They have to live on the good will of males, father or husband.
Who then control the finances.
Women won't have the income to own anything again.

This is like what it was like for women not that long ago.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
4. Yes, exactly and it's not even exaggerating.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 06:40 AM
Aug 2022

Many thought overturning roe v wade would never happen. This new extremist GOP is trying to send us back to the 50s.

peppertree

(23,079 posts)
7. To the 1650s
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 07:07 AM
Aug 2022

And they're even citing witch burners as precedent - in case anyone had any doubts.

Farmer-Rick

(12,384 posts)
5. So true
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 06:54 AM
Aug 2022

But GOPers be crazy.

When I asked a bunch of older GOPers why they would vote for a Republican who wants to take away their SocSec, they said, "No they won't do that, that's just what they say to get elected."

So, the GOPers out having sex and protecting themselves from STD or possible pregnancy, really think the GOPers are just "saying" they are going to take away your birth control (like Thomas). They won't really take away your birth control or SocSec.

Believe them when Republicans say they are going to take away your rights or your money. That's exactly what they will do.

peppertree

(23,079 posts)
6. The want two classes of people: incels/femcels, and the barefoot pregnant
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 07:06 AM
Aug 2022

The 1% would of course be exempt.

JHB

(37,891 posts)
8. And other things that they talk about but were in the "Oh, they won't actually DO that" category
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 07:14 AM
Aug 2022

Like ending Social Security and Medicare.

If they see an opportunity, they'll do it, like they did with Roe, like they're after with contraception.

3Hotdogs

(14,934 posts)
10. Repuke corporate leaders like the Koch have wanted to eliminate SS and Medical for decades,
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:03 AM
Aug 2022

Alf Landon's campaign against F.D.R. was based on ending Social Security. Later on, he applied for and received Social Security. He took his inspiration from Ayn Rand -- or maybe Ayn Rand took her inspiration from Alfie.

Marthe48

(22,573 posts)
11. My thoughts today
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:10 AM
Aug 2022

We have a morning after pill. I imagined a night before pill, like a big no button. Then, I felt this flash of anger that some idiots I don't even know are trying to interfere with so much that is none of their business. I'm not in a relationship, and too old to have kids, so I'm on the sidelines. But I'll tell you what. This over reach must stop.

When an adult couple has to stop and think about if they're going to get caught-either because of illicit sex, or because they can't get birth control, or an abortion, the people behind the restrictions of our lives are meddling in things that are absolutely none of their business. We are not their kids, their families or their friends. They need to butt out.

Lonestarblue

(13,166 posts)
12. Even Democrat running for election needs to include Justice Thomas' words about future rights.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:28 AM
Aug 2022

He as much as said that they are coming for birth control. LGBTQ rights won’t be far behind.

Every vote for a Republican is a vote for Congress to ban abortion and birth control in every single state. McConnell has already said he would consider such a bill. The words of Thomas and McConnell are important, as they’re promises of future plans.

They might also consider an old quote from members of the Southern Baptist Convention just before and after Roe became law. For example, “Carl F. H. Henry who became the editor of Christianity Today would affirm that “a woman’s body is not the domain and property of others.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/10/abortion-history-right-white-evangelical-1970s-00031480

Abortion was turned into a political football by Republicans as an election strategy—one that has kept them in office when they have few other policies.

Lonestarblue

(13,166 posts)
15. Every Democrat running for election needs to include Justice Thomas' words about future rights.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:39 AM
Aug 2022

He as much as said that they are coming for birth control. LGBTQ rights won’t be far behind.

Every vote for a Republican is a vote for Congress to ban abortion and birth control in every single state. McConnell has already said he would consider such a bill. The words of Thomas and McConnell are important, as they’re promises of future plans.

They might also consider an old quote from members of the Southern Baptist Convention just before and after Roe became law. For example, “Carl F. H. Henry who became the editor of Christianity Today would affirm that “a woman’s body is not the domain and property of others.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/10/abortion-history-right-white-evangelical-1970s-00031480

Abortion was turned into a political football by Republicans as an election strategy—one that has kept them in office when they have few other policies.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
16. The radicalized Republican party is also seeking to decide elections in spite of voters.
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:45 AM
Aug 2022

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

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